Why Kamui > Sasuke's jutsu ("RS")

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So you ultimately agree he would have died if Sakura wasn't there. Also strain from MS = chakra exhaustion moron.

I win,
Strain and Exhaustion are different. Nice vulgar language, are you perhaps butthurt? Hmm?
And of course Obito needed Sakura's power, have you not read the manga, or maybe you just illiterate, that would explain a lot.
Nobody was talking to you. He doesn't need you to fight his battles. Stay out of this.
Lmao
 

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If he goes to warp sasuke, and sasuke uses his s/t, isn't the out come basically the same as when he fought Minato.

If he's using intangibility out of fear of sasuke using s/t sasuke has no warp to fear
the thing. he doesnt have to warp sasuke. obito is a capable fighter.
 

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XD oh please.
Kamui is useful for multiple things in battle.
Send that guy into that dimension you say? OK.
Pull out a bunch of beast from that dimension you say? OK.
Get the f*ck away from the giant explosion thats gonna devastate everything in the range of 40 miles you say? OK.
Take the head off of that guy you say? OK.

Then we have Sasuke's S/T
What can we do with this exactly?
Get closer to the enemy?
Because last time I checked any Space Time travel can do that.
Unless you can predict where the user using Kamui is gonna come from it really doesn't matter that it takes 0.000001
Seconds for the user to get there, because reality is, that's instant enough.

It's not like anyone actually see's him walking there.
It's into Kamui dimension, out of Kamui dimension where you wanna go.
That wasnt a battle and please stop with fanfic

Kamui couldnt react to 7 gate Gai, How would it react to sasuke's s/t?

You can use a regular summon for that
 

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The fact that some people assert Kamui isn't suited to battle is absolutely laughable.

Never mind making the Kage cower in fear and how methodical he was against Fu and Torune or the Itachi Pursuit Squad, with 1 eye.
 

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The fact that some people assert Kamui isn't suited to battle is absolutely laughable.

Never mind making the Kage cower in fear and how methodical he was against Fu and Torune or the Itachi Pursuit Squad, with 1 eye.
You mean me right? explain how it's better than either ftg or sasuk'e s/t in battle?
 

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You mean me right? explain how it's better than either ftg or sasuk'e s/t in battle?
kamui
-requires no seal
-phase is instant
-both warp and snipe are very fast
-kamui is a short and long range jutsu
-can attack and defend at the sametime
-once warped into kamui the fight is over
-no cool down
-can be used at any time
 

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You mean me right? explain how it's better than either ftg or sasuk'e s/t in battle?
Here you go
kamui
-requires no seal
-phase is instant
-both warp and snipe are very fast
-kamui is a short and long range jutsu
-can attack and defend at the sametime
-once warped into kamui the fight is over
-no cool down
-can be used at any time
Kamui is eons ahead of Sasuke's S/T.
 

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obito wasnt hit by guy
And he couldnt hit Gai, and we all know what happens after 5 minutes with Kamui

kamui
-requires no seal
-phase is instant
-both warp and snipe are very fast
-kamui is a short and long range jutsu
-can attack and defend at the sametime
-once warped into kamui the fight is over
-no cool down
-can be used at any time
- its wrapping and snipping can be countered by fast ninjas, ftg or sasuke's s/t cant be countered
-Can attack but not snip while being intangible
-Cool down wouldnt change the outcome anyways
-All of them can be used any time

in a battle with kage level ninjas, kamui can barely hold on but sasuke's s/t and ftg ends battles in seconds
 
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And he couldnt hit Gai, and we all know what happens after 5 minutes with Kamui



- its wrapping and snipping can be countered by fast ninjas, ftg or sasuke's s/t cant be countered
-Can attack but not snip while being intangible
-Cool down wouldnt change the outcome anyways
-All of them can be used any time

in a battle with kage level ninjas, kamui can barely hold on but sasuke's s/t and ftg ends battles in seconds
kakashi with kamui was fast enough to warp part of the ghedo statue mid summon(coming out of obito). do you know how fast something is summoned? extremely fast. not to mention it came out of obito in 1 panal or 2 showing how fast the summoning was. with that speed gaara, ooniki, mizukage, and tsunade arent avoiding it. especially in the hands of its owner. so your wrong about the speed of kamui snipe.

-kamui warp can counter sasuke's s/t. but kamui can be more useful in battle. just because rinne tech is fast enough to avoid snipe, doesnt make it any less useful. after teleporting 3-4 times cool down.

-i can still punch you in the face while your hhand slips through mine and after i pin you down warp you into kamui. it is very good at cqc.

-if a kamui user kamui's and avoids the rinne tech attack then it does matter because once that cool down takes effect its useless

-all of them can be used at any time but one requires prep(ftg) and the other has a cool down(sauce)
 
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kakashi with kamui was fast enough to warp part of the ghedo statue mid summon(coming out of obito). do you know how fast something is summoned? extremely fast. not to mention it came out of obito in 1 panal or 2 showing how fast the summoning was. with that speed gaara, ooniki, mizukage, and tsunade arent avoiding it. especially in the hands of its owner. so your wrong about the speed of kamui snipe.

-kamui can counter sasuke's s/t. but kamui can be more useful in battle. just because rinne tech is fast enough to avoid snipe, doesnt make it any less useful. after teleporting 3-4 times cool down.

-i can still punch you in the face while your hhand slips through mine and after i pin you down warp you into kamui. it is very good at cqc.

-if a kamui user kamui's and avoids the rinne tech attack then it does matter because once that cool down takes effect its useless

-all of them can be used at any time but one requires prep(ftg) and the other has a cool down(sauce)
I dont know how fast summoning is but it cant be as fast as instant right?

-please, kamui couldnt even counter ftg( and obito knew it was coming)anything haxed with like a few second cooldown is still haxed anyhow you look at it

-Not for fast ninjas lol

-Thats the thing, he cant avoid it

-sauc?? really?? you can use your brain for something other than hating you know, and minato ftg already beat kamui, I dont see how it would be a challange for sasuke's s/t
 

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I dont know how fast summoning is but it cant be as fast as instant right?

-please, kamui couldnt even counter ftg( and obito knew it was coming)anything haxed with like a few second cooldown is still haxed anyhow you look at it

-Not for fast ninjas lol

-Thats the thing, he cant avoid it

-sauc?? really?? you can use your brain for something other than hating you know, and minato ftg already beat kamui, I dont see how it would be a challange for sasuke's s/t
right before deidara exploded, sasuke reverse summoned himself with his snake to block the explosion. that shows how fast a summoning is. kamui snipe doesnt have to be instant but if you think gaara and alot of others are fast enough to dodge something that can snipe a summoning then your crazy.

- its not that kamui couldnt counter it, an inexperienced obito at the age of like 14 jumped the gun and kamui'd to soon(or let go of it to soon). that had nothing to do with kamui and was obito's fault. not to mention minato was even cautions around him and deemed him a huge threat. so again minato didnt win because ftg > kamaui, he won because he had the better reflexes.

- most of the top ten arent speedy users. like nagato. he was never known for his amazing foot speed and has no realistic counter for it.

-thats the thing, someone with great reflexes can see sasuke's attack coming and kamui. but this is a jutsu vs jutsu, you assuming sasuke can blitz anyone has nothing to do with each s/t being instant and each being able to counter each other. but sasuke's is the only one which will stop working after uses.

- i said sauce to shorten his name calm down. again minato didnt beat obito because ftg as > kamui. rewatch the fight minato (who was in his 20's) said the person who strikes first loses. this was a battle of reflexes and the 20 something year old hokage beat the teenager in reflexes
 

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right before deidara exploded, sasuke reverse summoned himself with his snake to block the explosion. that shows how fast a summoning is. kamui snipe doesnt have to be instant but if you think gaara and alot of others are fast enough to dodge something that can snipe a summoning then your crazy.

- its not that kamui couldnt counter it, an inexperienced obito at the age of like 14 jumped the gun and kamui'd to soon(or let go of it to soon). that had nothing to do with kamui and was obito's fault. not to mention minato was even cautions around him and deemed him a huge threat. so again minato didnt win because ftg > kamaui, he won because he had the better reflexes.

- most of the top ten arent speedy users. like nagato. he was never known for his amazing foot speed and has no realistic counter for it.

-thats the thing, someone with great reflexes can see sasuke's attack coming and kamui. but this is a jutsu vs jutsu, you assuming sasuke can blitz anyone has nothing to do with each s/t being instant and each being able to counter each other. but sasuke's is the only one which will stop working after uses.

- i said sauce to shorten his name calm down. again minato didnt beat obito because ftg as > kamui. rewatch the fight minato (who was in his 20's) said the person who strikes first loses. this was a battle of reflexes and the 20 something year old hokage beat the teenager in reflexes
when i say fast, i mean v1 A level fast

-Sasuke also isnt fully experienced so we cant judge it yet too
- Okay
-Kaguya and madara had beast sensing but they couldnt even counter, it cant be countered
- Yes because clearly sauce is short for sasuke :|
 

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when i say fast, i mean v1 A level fast

-Sasuke also isnt fully experienced so we cant judge it yet too
- Okay
-Kaguya and madara had beast sensing but they couldnt even counter, it cant be countered
- Yes because clearly sauce is short for sasuke :|
-we can only judge it as we know it
-kaguya has yet to get hit by it, she countered it. madara even subbed out of it.
-just like if we were talking about naruto i'd call him noodles, its just a name. a nickname at that
 

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-we can only judge it as we know it
-kaguya has yet to get hit by it, she countered it. madara even subbed out of it.
-just like if we were talking about naruto i'd call him noodles, its just a name. a nickname at that
- Okay
- Sasuke s/t got kaguya twice already, it was his striking speed that was the problem and got madara 3 times
- Haters started all those nickname
 

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People are still arguing over this? RS > Kamui, plain and simple. Now shut the fúck up.
The only thing you contributed to this was kamui needs seals which is doesn't Lol. Log off and "cool down". See what I did there? Because sauce has a cool down Lol
 
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