[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 688 Discussion and 689 Predictions

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TaBaYo

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Theres no shame in that. You can actually think it is both. Think that the plot for him to obtain PS, is BS, while still loving the epicness of it.


Anyways I dont usually respond to these threads. But This was a different chapter.

As soon as I turned to page one, and we still saw obito and rin, I began laughing.

As the chapter progressed, I just began laughing more. As soon as I saw obitos chakra/soul come to kakashi I laughed harder.

With Double MS kakashi I began running out of breath.

Then naruto did a epic bjuu attack. Didnt laugh at that(though I was still snickering at the events before)

Then kaguya turned into a odd blob. Just weird.

Then kakashi PS happened. Then I fell on the floor and could stop laughing for 5 minutes.


I was laughing because I could just immagine how people were gonna get worked up. And it was just hilarious. And I was right.

I will laugh even more if obito still comes back again for something. Or he is revived or something.


Other than that, on a more serious note, I am fine with kishi doing what he wants. I have been along this series for enjoyment long before the more questionable stuff happened. I just will enjoy the series no matter what kishi does really.

But one thing that does get me a bit upset, is how vague kishi can be.

Susanoo, we dont know exactly the requirements for PS, thus we can only speculate whether it is BS, or whether it is logical.
We dont know how susanoo works exactly, so we dont know whether eyeless susanoo was truly bs, or whether it was never contradictary.

Or the transmigrates.

Kishi has left us with many things that we just dont understand how they work. We can neither confirm nor deny a theory about it.

I truly hope kishi comes back at some time and explains some of these things. It would make things much better
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cptenn94;16689900[B said:
]There are certainly theories and fabrications that we can create that make everything fit together. However that does not change the fact that kishi leaves many things not fully explained. Even though he may have a good explanation, we are left with questionable contradictions.

The only way to get closest to the truth is to discuss it with others. Usually others who do not agree, or others who play devils advocate.

The key thing though, is for both sides to understand that they are speculating. Because they are.[/B]
Agreed with these statements. People just speculate and they convince themselves that, that is the real explanation to what they are confused about. Till Kishi himself explains stuff, nobody can clearly and vividly explain how anything works in the manga.

Even with Kishi's explanation, sometimes he doesnt give the clear truth, eg. is how Kamui works. Kakashi just did his own analysis of it, which doesnt confirm how it works. Only Obito cld have done that for our perfect understanding.

Susano is another example. Itachi explained what he thought he knew about it which doesn't mean its the real explanation or truth. Only the originator of susano wld be the best person to explain how susano really works.

Kishi, does not really spend more time in doing those explanations but I think it his style of writing so he can fill in plot holes and cover anytime he wants to.
 
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Wtf just happened .... I was actually laughing, come on I thought obito would use izanagi or something but.. That


How come kakashi can use suzano wen obito didn't

So. Bz is now not with kaguya... She is rabbit now .... All bijus might come out now....
Where are the ages.... The chapter ended so soon.....


Only word... Wtf.
 

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Kakashi became a jounin BEFORE he was given the sharingan from obito. Was he really so useless that Kishi was forced to used random magic to give him not just one but two MS? I was hoping to see some of kakashis OWN techniques that got him to the level of jounin...
This is what I hate. Kakashi is supposed to be an elite ninja. Even though kamui was his best move, it wasn't his only move. At the very least, he should be able to come up with some ideas on taking down kaguya. Now that I think of it, Sasuke hasn't done anything so far in susanoo that hurt kaguya and kamui is too slow unless he uses both at the same time (which should be a huge drain on him, but it probably won't because asspull). Honestly, I can only see kakashi devising some sort of elaborate plan that may or may not work, and thats the only usefullness I see coming from his power up.
 

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I guess Kakashi is the copy ninja after all. Maybe he observed Sasuke activating his Perfect Susano an kept that in mind or Obito's spirit energy transferred into Kakashi for a while to see this fight through.
 

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TBH I was expecting Obito to be able to go back in some form or another based on the fact his eyes are made to jump dimensions. That much makes sense.

What I DON'T accept is that Kakashi's eyes awakened sharingan. They don't have the biology/genes to become sharingan so what I get from this is that bloodline limits can be transfused with chakra alone? Epic inconsistency!
 

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I understand that a lot of you guys seem confused/dissapointed about this chapter. But to me the fact that obito comes back to life to give kakashi new powers isnt something strange. Its not the first time we have seen that. Why dont you complain the fact that edo tenseis have the chakra of the dead? Or that indra and ashuras chakra is still alive in naruto and sasuke? Now it seems that obito transferred his to kakashi. SO6P did basically the same thing to naruto, and even showed up from madaras bodies to talk to the kages. I know its wierd as **** that kakashi gets to pull out a perfect susanoo out of his ass, but im sure kishi is up to something with this. Remember that madara is defeated and that this might have something to do with itm remember obito saying that kakashi will recieve a temporary gift. Im sure kishi is up to something even though this chapter was pretty confusing
 

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Hi this is my first post !!! Guys, I don't think that this is an asspull after all. My opinion is, just like the Indra and Ashura transmigration, Obito's soul can actually give Kakashi a temporary power-up. Like Hagoromo with Nardo and Sauce. And after they're finished with their role, the power-ups will be gone forever, in this case, Obito's Sharingan and Susanoo. Maybe Nardo and Sauce's power-ups too, since Hagoromo is a dead man and the power granted is only to seal his mother off. Technically Obito didn't transplant the eyes, he 'possessed' Kakashi. After all, you guys saw the conversation between him and Rin that he promised to come back. How the heck that he supposed to come back if he doesn't possess the Sharingan ? So for you guys who are ranting about the sudden power-up, chill out. Kishi will explain about it in the next 2-3 chapters. As for the PS, I think it is because Kakashi literally copied Madara's PS, although it is plausible because he's not there during the 5 kage fight with Edo Madara or maybe he copied Sauce's PS.
Obito possessing Kakashi is the most plausible idea so far, but how could he give kakashi something he himself never had? The perfect susanoo, that is. Obito himself barely had his sharingan for a few moments. Maybe he could've learned how to creAte susanoo, but not a perfect one.
 

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What the actual F**** Did I just read... (REVIEW)

To sum up this weeks chapter, I can tell Kishi has absolutely lost it... making every Kakashi fan boy dream come true. I love kakashi as much as a next guy but accepted that he has simply become fodder as the rest of Narutoverse has become.. including the likes of the first Hokage... (Lets face it, Naruto, Sasuke and Kaguya are on another level atm)

The fact that Kishi gave Kakashi BOTH Mangekyou Sharingan was an ass pull... how can a NON Uchiha be able to wield it without any significant Chakra Prowes? (If Naruto magically transferred him chakra through telepathy, I definatly didnt see it) BUT the fact he had a PERFECT Susanoo... on the same size scale as Madaras and Sasuke is completely stupid... So essentially Kishi is saying Kakashi susanoo is more powerful compared to Itachi? when Itachi was a child genius Uchiha.

Even the Juubi re-appearing in a messed up state is stupid... Kaguya is a GOD... she becomes a fodder once black zetsu is cut off? :|

I don't know... I really wanted Naruto to end on a good note... just seems like one big filler to me atm... massive let down man

Let me know what you think guys? Did you enjoy it?
 
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First of all. kakashi has not the ps, because if you read the manga you see he only have 2 hands not 4 like madara or wings like sasuke. second of all we all know the sharingan only works 100% in pairs, so mabye it uses less chakra when it is paired. as next we know naruto gave kakashi chakra some time ago, so maybe he is using this. and we all know, that kakshi will get a power up and the only powerup, which is made for kakashi is the kamui sharingan
 

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To me it looks like you don't even read what you write, let alone read something someone else wrote. Obito dissipated with his both eyes. The connection is metaphoric and Shounenistic at best.
We're talking about a manga where you can create the moon blow up countries and have god-level power, are you really that dumb to try and explain all that? Between Obito returned as pure chakra and infused with Kakashi, you know that what activates the Sharingan is a special chakra that emanates from the Uchiha, a.k.a Indra's family. You don't need a body to activate a sharingan you need the chakra!. Even Tobirama said it was the special chakra that the Uchiha have. And the connection makes complete sense, Kakashi also returned from that "dimension" when he died fighting pain, Obito as pure chakra and with the eye technique can pinpoint Kakashi, since they are bound by chakra, he had his right eye for 16 ****ing years. And also a pure chakra guy we know is Hagoromo, this is not asspull it has his weight on the manga, but is easier to be butthurt, I guess some people even enjoy it by now.
 

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I would have preferred if he'd given it to Kakashi with dying breath not like this. Whatever. I've always wanted to see Kakashi with both Sharingans. So I'll give it a 5/5. Even though I'm laughing at this asspull but I don't expect top notch writing with logic from Kishi at this point anyways. Lol
 

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I understand that a lot of you guys seem confused/dissapointed about this chapter. But to me the fact that obito comes back to life to give kakashi new powers isnt something strange. Its not the first time we have seen that. Why dont you complain the fact that edo tenseis have the chakra of the dead? Or that indra and ashuras chakra is still alive in naruto and sasuke? Now it seems that obito transferred his to kakashi. SO6P did basically the same thing to naruto, and even showed up from madaras bodies to talk to the kages. I know its wierd as **** that kakashi gets to pull out a perfect susanoo out of his ass, but im sure kishi is up to something with this. Remember that madara is defeated and that this might have something to do with itm remember obito saying that kakashi will recieve a temporary gift. Im sure kishi is up to something even though this chapter was pretty confusing
u are perfectly corect and I completely agree wit u.d ps is jus temporal.
 

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When's the REAL chapter coming out? (things wrong with 688)

Today's chapter feels like fanfiction garbage. Kishimoto is either dead or has been snorting a pound of cocaine everytime he includes a flashback, seriously...

*Obito's kamui gave the afterlife the finger

*Without BZ, the goddess Kaguya gets fodderized

*Sasuke's "perfect" Susano'o gets destroyed easily...again

*Kakashi, the one who could barely handle a single sharingan...can now use two?

*Why didn't Obito use Susano'o? He could've saved everyone with it...selfish bastard.

*More proof that Nardo >>> Sausage. I thought Hagoromo gave each half of his power, not 90% to Naruto and 10% to Sasuke lol

Worst chapter ever. Ashura's avatar mode would've been much better than Kakashi's susano'o. Things didn't make sense before, but now...

(What's next? Will the Juurabbit shrink down into a Kid Kaguya, forcing Naruto and Sasuke to fuse and become "Super Sasuto"? ****ing hell, guys...)
 
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