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Thats fine I don't hold grudges either, but Naruto has far surpassed the level of humans and therefore uninteresting imo. I find Sasuke more logical, but hey to each his own.
When you have Naruto's power, you really don't need Sasuke's Logic.

The reason why Sasuke acts like that is because he is afraid for his life. And if u would read some books with similar hard situations you would understand that only those who are weak and afraid act like Sasuke. The more the power, the safer you feel and you get to have time to think of the others too. So there, Sasuke is just a fodder.
 

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When you have Naruto's power, you really don't need Sasuke's Logic.
valid point. Shonen MCs don't need logic.

Luffy solos.

The reason why Sasuke acts like that is because he is afraid for his life. And if u would read some books with similar hard situations you would understand that only those who are weak and afraid act like Sasuke. The more the power, the safer you feel and you get to have time to think of the others too. So there, Sasuke is just a fodder.
Classic fanboy logic. Sasuke confronts gods without hesitation and he is apparently shaking scared. This isn't a very good reflection of your fanbase. Illogical and delusional.
 
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Am I the only one who's disappointed in his overall character? Like, he went from the knuckle head ninja, who had to train extra hard to achieve something worth mentioning, to a kid who was prophesized to save the world from magical demon Goddesses, and what not. He's not relateable at all anymore, he forgave Obito for killing his parents after he found out Obito realized life wasn't far, and went on a butturt spree. "Obito is nothing but awesome" - yet he killed your parents, helped kill multiple Jinjuuriki, started a war killing thousands, and you forgive him like that? It's not even the fact he forgave him, it's the fact that it was done with minimal progression, it seemed force, just like everything else he does.
You're probably not the only one who feels that way, but then again I'm probably not the only one who doesn't get your perspective.

He grew up tough and had to fight for the recognition he's received. No one believed in him. Then after proving himself, people saw (and he himself realized) that he had greatness in him all along despite his circumstances, he just had to believe in and apply himself. Sounds like the majority of success stories to me. You look at any of the greats in any particular area, most didn't come from upbringings that you would think would lead to greatness, but once they became great, people believed they were destined for it. It's no different than Naruto being prophesized to save the world. If you really paid attention to the manga, you'd notice that no one gave him that credit until he proved himself as a strong ninja with potential. They weren't calling him the child of prophecy in chapter one. They showed him love only after he started going places. That's literally how it is in real life. How you feel that isn't relatable is really beyond me.

As far as him forgiving Obito, that may not be as relatable to some, but then again who can really relate to having to fight with someone who killed your parents. We've seen Naruto go through emotional stages of anger, revenge, jealousy, as well as forgiveness. He's matured. That's it. It's not relatable only because unfortunately maturity isn't a familiarity in this world. But hanging your hat on this small aspect of Naruto's character as being a reason to be disappointed in his overall development, which by the way the point of development is to....you know..."develop", so his recent attitude and resolve should be expected considering the stages we've seen him go through, is foolish in my opinion. To each his own and all due respect, but I don't see the big deal you guys have been making lately about Naruto. The argument just sounds really immature...ironically enough
 

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You're probably not the only one who feels that way, but then again I'm probably not the only one who doesn't get your perspective.

He grew up tough and had to fight for the recognition he's received. No one believed in him. Then after proving himself, people saw (and he himself realized) that he had greatness in him all along despite his circumstances, he just had to believe in and apply himself. Sounds like the majority of success stories to me. You look at any of the greats in any particular area, most didn't come from upbringings that you would think would lead to greatness, but once they became great, people believed they were destined for it. It's no different than Naruto being prophesized to save the world. If you really paid attention to the manga, you'd notice that no one gave him that credit until he proved himself as a strong ninja with potential. They weren't calling him the child of prophecy in chapter one. They showed him love only after he started going places. That's literally how it is in real life. How you feel that isn't relatable is really beyond me.

As far as him forgiving Obito, that may not be as relatable to some, but then again who can really relate to having to fight with someone who killed your parents. We've seen Naruto go through emotional stages of anger, revenge, jealousy, as well as forgiveness. He's matured. That's it. It's not relatable only because unfortunately maturity isn't a familiarity in this world. But hanging your hat on this small aspect of Naruto's character as being a reason to be disappointed in his overall development, which by the way the point of development is to....you know..."develop", so his recent attitude and resolve should be expected considering the stages we've seen him go through, is foolish in my opinion. To each his own and all due respect, but I don't see the big deal you guys have been making lately about Naruto. The argument just sounds really immature...ironically enough
Awesome rebuttal :x3: +rep
 
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Sig worthy shit right here.

You're entitled to your opinion, but troyg raped this thread.
I know awesome right XD. This thread was talking about character so I was pretty sure that is what u meant. Power arguments would have no place here.

Character wise Tobirama>Naruto
 

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considering Obito is the best written character in this manga... lel @ u, obviously not understanding the definition of well written character. =D
So if I killed your parents, would you think I was "the coolest guy" or "awesome"?

Would I be the best person ever born on this planet to you?

Me and you have been on the same page about almost everything.
Great minds think alike. :cool:

Naruto > your fav.
The manga begs to differ.
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Am I the only one who's disappointed in his overall character? Like, he went from the knuckle head ninja, who had to train extra hard to achieve something worth mentioning, to a kid who was prophesized to save the world from magical demon Goddesses, and what not. He's not relateable at all anymore, he forgave Obito for killing his parents after he found out Obito realized life wasn't far, and went on a butturt spree. "Obito is nothing but awesome" - yet he killed your parents, helped kill multiple Jinjuuriki, started a war killing thousands, and you forgive him like that? It's not even the fact he forgave him, it's the fact that it was done with minimal progression, it seemed force, just like everything else he does.
If you have been reading the base lately. It will show that you are clearly not the only one with this thinking. I for one don't mind this change in his powers or character. It was about time he changed from who he was before. He had to advance on to become a better being than he was made to be from the start.
 
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