Common Misconception. Kamui can get past Yata Mirror

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You sir .. Sound like an idiot. I come back to this thread and you talking about yata blocking an illness. AN INTERNAL illness. INSIDE of itachi
But you keep saying how Yata Mirror can change its properties and has no form. It is beyond atstral forms and Gods' decree.

It can block any attack.

The illness is attacking Itachi's cells.

Why couldn't Yata Mirror block it?
 

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You're forcing me to use this argument then.

If Yata can block all "Attacks" and they all lose their meaning, physical, astral, ninjutsu, etc.

Then why couldn't Yata block Itachi's illness? The illness was killing him while he possessed Yata Mirror.

By your definition, Yata Mirror should have changed its property and combated the illness.


The illness isn't even as crazy as something like an Astral attack.
But the mirror was not active as far as you know when the illness was contracted. this is a bad argument.
 

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Are you talking about the long range one whether it will create a hole in the Mirror or not? Are you talking about the warping?

If so, I'm not really sure. But the word "astral" doesn't apply to that. As I've provided you with Google definition, it applies to a non physical realm of existence at which supernatural entities resided.

You also need to consider the scan provided by Mark Sanchez about the long range Kamui.
My post was focused on long range kamui. Yata blocks all attacks physical, astral etc. long range Kamui is an astral attack it doesn't have form.
 

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But you keep saying how Yata Mirror can change its properties and has no form. It is beyond atstral forms and Gods' decree.

It can block any attack.

The illness is attacking Itachi's cells.

Why couldn't Yata Mirror block it?
So by your logic. Yata goes inside of itachis veins and tiny shields block cells
 

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But the mirror was not active as far as you know when the illness was contracted. this is a bad argument.
But when it was active during Sasuke's fight. Why didn't it block the illness in its tracks?

You keep saying how Yata Mirror can change its properties and has no form. It is beyond atstral realities and God's decree.

It can block any attack.

The illness is attacking Itachi's cells.

Why couldn't Yata Mirror block it?
 

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But the people who were in there house, who were sleeping also got trapped in IT. Light is not the X-Factor.

OH I forgot to add something. The susanoo have some special properties that can block the light going through itself while Yata don't have that.

Light is still the factor here because the special properties that Susanoo have is non exist for the house. Or may also the light going through window and shining on the peoples inside it.

Thanks.
But how do blind people got trapped in IT then?
You know what's funny? Parallel universes are only in fiction, so we actually don't have any idea of how they work or if they even exist.

That's how Physics is :rolleyes:
You know what? It's in the theories. We have idea how they work and we are almost sure that they exist.

But experiments cannot be conducted due to current technologies.

That's how Physics is :rolleyes:
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yeaaa... i do get the point.. hmm good effort :)

for example.. kakashi punched obito at his head... that part will be transferred and exist in kamui world.. if that part does not have any correlation/connection at all with the real world,

in terms of time... that part of head would be 1 or 2 seconds younger at least.. which means obito have some manipulation of time... which is impossible even for kaguya...

in terms of space... that part of head must be at the exact spot..

but still i cant be too serious by relating physics with fictional stuff
 

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But when it was active during Sasuke's fight. Why didn't it block the illness in its tracks?

You keep saying how Yata Mirror can change its properties and has no form. It is beyond atstral realities and God's decree.

It can block any attack.

The illness is attacking Itachi's cells.

Why couldn't Yata Mirror block it?
1. He could've had the illness before he found yata

2. A giant shield can't block his cells :|
 

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But when it was active during Sasuke's fight. Why didn't it block the illness in its tracks?

You keep saying how Yata Mirror can change its properties and has no form. It is beyond atstral realities and God's decree.

It can block any attack.

The illness is attacking Itachi's cells.

Why couldn't Yata Mirror block it?
What does a shield do to something that has already gotton past it? It stops things from coming in not forces them out.
 

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The Space of Universe is the actual time that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is :rolleyes:

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The Space of Universe is the actual time that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is :rolleyes:

That's the reason he's got to have some entity in the real world altogether.
What's your point?

The s/t justu is the user

He leaves by "phasing," sending body parts one at a time until it all enters into his dimension.

He opens (warps) into the current world by sending one part in before the other into the future.

Picture it like a flip book
 

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My post was focused on long range kamui. Yata blocks all attacks physical, astral etc. long range Kamui is an astral attack it doesn't have form.
Lol The word "astral" doesn't applies to Kamui at all.

Astral is not just about being non-physical, as I've provided you with the Google definition.
 

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I know I can't teach you Physics right here.

But all I'm saying is that when Obito warps into Kamuiland, he has some or the other kind of entity in the real world that's for sure, if you atleast consider it by Physics
Based on what? The manga states that he's not there when he's "intangible" The manga shows that he isn't there when he actually teleports into the dimension. There is nothing that implies he's still there. "Physics" isn't an argument. "Physics" is irrelevant. How does he have an entity in the real world when such a thing was never hinted at? When there is nothing of the sort shown?

But as you said he's not visible, Yes I agree he's not visible. But that doesn't mean he's literally intangible. There is some chakra related shit in the real world for sure. (I know you'll not agree with chakra thing cause you'll say why didn't Naruto sense him) but there IS some kind of X-Factor that it is.
I've been saying this whole time that he's not literally intangible. He's simply in another dimension. I'm not even talking about intangibility here. I'm talking about him actually teleporting into the other dimension.

No there isn't, you are simply over-complicating things.

Matter can't "vanish" like Obito is doing. It has to be something that is just irrelevant for explaining in Manga.
Except its not vanishing. Its basically just going elsewhere. So the law of conservation of mass isn't an argument here either.

so your telling me that a shield is supposed to save him from a disease... Just let that sink in
And you are supporting the notion that a shield magically entering another dimension.
 

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But you keep saying how Yata Mirror can change its properties and has no form. It is beyond atstral forms and Gods' decree.

It can block any attack.

The illness is attacking Itachi's cells.

Why couldn't Yata Mirror block it?
Itachi ****ed Madara.

But Madara's AIDS were so powerful that even Yata mirror couldn't block it from entering Itachi's body.
 

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Once again:

The "Space" of Universe is the actual "Time" that we call. That's how Parallel Universe works IMO. You open a warp to travel through dimensions and if you close that warp and have no way back other than to open another warp, you will surely end up either in past of future of the real world.

That's how Physics is :rolleyes:

That's the reason he's got to have some entity in the real world altogether.
This is not about parallel universe that have your past self/future self.

This is only a dimension that exist parallel with the actual/physical world. Or I'm said pocket dimension. In our real world have many/layer of plaint of existent but it separated and place in entirely different dimension.

What Obito just did is going/warp inside this pocket dimension that separated from physical world dimension. Our physical world also is in some dimension that become a place for existent to exist/create.

Its actually a supernatural phenomena that even science is hard to explain it.

Its not a universe but just a dimension.
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Lol The word "astral" doesn't applies to Kamui at all.

Astral is not just about being non-physical, as I've provided you with the Google definition.
What would you classify kamui as then? That exactly what i was trying to explain to Kotori. Kamui is a space justu and they translated it as astral.
 

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You know what? It's in the theories. We have idea how they work and we are almost sure that they exist.

But experiments cannot be conducted due to current technologies.

That's how Physics is :rolleyes:
Not really no. You have no argument.

I should have mentioned this in the previous comment. You said if one going into a different dimension and coming back, you're bound to arrive in the past.

Physics decree that one can't go into the past no matter what.

Also Kishi is not a scientist. You can't apply physics to fiction.
 
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