Itachi>Double Kmaui Obito

[LustyLover]

Of course it would if you dont think so he can just kamui the whole dam susano.

Lol, if you think so.​

 

[Trúth]

Of course it would if you dont think so he can just kamui the whole dam susano.

Is there something about Yata mirror you didn't understand? Do people not read?

 

[Kamui Sama]

itachi > Kishi

 

[KamuiGodObito]

Is there something about Yata mirror you didn't understand? Do people not read?

Yes I read it but he still can send it to another dimension ^_^

 

[KamuiGodObito]

Lol, if you think so.​

Forget you.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

I think us Itachi and Obito fans need to end this once and for all. We have been arguing about this for too long when in fact the outcome isn't even debatable. Itachi wins this the same way he always wins his battles with ease. He makes Obito look like a moron and I'm going to prove it. Read it and come up with counters though the truth is.....there aren't any.

Here is what we know about Kamui.


-One eye uses long range Kamui.(this eye is almost completely blind.)

-The other eye uses short Kamui to pull people in and to make Obito intangible in a way.(We have to assume that the vision of this eye is almost completely gone as well)

-With both eyes together the true power is revealed. For Obito that seems to be an increase in speed.

-When he wants to suck someone in, he must materialize.


There are only six ways to counter Kamui. Itachi possess four of them.

1. Genjutsu(You do not need to physically harm Obito just place him under genjutsu)

2. Attack from both the real dimension and Kamui dimension. Basically what Kakashi was doing before the arrival of Madara.

3. Yata mirror.

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Kamui is astral(space time) technique.​

4. A substitution jutsu assuming the user is fast enough

5. FTG or a similar space time nin jutsu

6. FTC(Flying Thunder Crow. Will be explained fully in detail)

This is Itachi's own version of FTG. It doesn't give him the abilities of FTG but the effects are the same. It's actually much better for battle then the real thing. Please read and find out why before posting.

The FTC a.k.a Flying Thunder Crow in action

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Chapter 580, pg. 13,14,15.

How it works:

Basically, when Itachi gets touched/stabbed/attacked by someone, his body bursts into few dozens of crows, which all of them carry a portion of his chakra.

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He has few dozens of crows which he can replace with his own physical body, like we see in the 2nd and 3rd pic(FTC in action section)
The crows dont need to gather in order to form Itachi's body, as we can see there are countless crows still around Kabuto while Itachi is blitzing Kabuto with his whole body.

Meaning, he can use this as defense, but he can use this as a technique to blitz the enemy, like we see in the 3rd picture.
Just like FTG can be used to teleport to a tree or other mark away from enemy, for defense, and then the kunai can be thrown behind enemy for blitz.

Reasons why this is better than FTG in 1v1 battles

1. few dozen possible targets to replace(crows) > 1 kunai.

If there one of the crows scattered is nearer to enemy's back, he can pick that one to substitute it and blitz enemy from behind.
If one of the crows is under the enemy, he can pick that one and blitz him from below etc.

There are so many crows around that the enemy will have to watch every single side, even behind him, in order to correctly predict where Itachi is going to blitz from, and it is impossible to do so, even byakugan has a blind spot...

Whereas Minato can only throw so many kunai's around the battle field but he can only blitz enemy with only 1 kunai in the air.

2. The enemy can drop their guard after thinking they actually landed a hit on Itachi.

3. And due to many crows flying about, a perfect Sage got distracted, not because of landing a hit, but simply because the crows disturb the target.

4. Instead of cutting Kabuto's horn, he could've easily slit his throat, but Kabuto was not allowed to be killed, rather just subtly attacked. Therefore, Itachi couldn't slit his throat to kill him, in this category, FTC at the very least can provide openings as useful/deadly as FTG.

Conclusion:
Besides the mentioned points above, after seeing a perfect snake SM (user), which provides super-enhanced sensory abilities, got blitzed and easily could've get his throat slit, do you really think someone with normal(inferior) sensing abilities or sensing abilities provided by other SM(inferior) or one with none at all(Obito)cannot be blitzed by FTC?

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Itachi easily counters long range Kamui(Yata Mirrior) and the short range Kamui is also easily countered.(FTC & Substitution)

In a real battle, Itachi would simply use FTC the moment Obito touched him and blitz him. After all Obito must materialize in order to suck him in. It will be similar to the Minato fight. Think about it, Itachi is actually the worst enemy Obito could face. He has 4 counters to Kamui, no one else possess's this.

Really quickly I want to mention Tsukyomi. In my own personal opinion Obito can break out of it.

Requirements:


Sharingan

Uchiha blood

Obviously you need to have the ability or the power to break it.



Obito meets these requirements, however that doesn't mean he can't be placed IN Tsukyomi. He can and it's not an instant break out either. Sasuke is proof of that. All Itachi needs is one second.

You also need to consider that when Sasuke "broke" Tsukyomi his eyes were perfect. His vision wasn't impaired and he had spent several years training them specifically for Tsukyomi.

You could argue that Obito knowing about Itachi's abilities has prepared himself in some way to handle Tsukyomi but you can't argue that his vision isn't almost gone. That could hamper his ability to break it and thus increase the time it will take.


Conclusion: If you didn't read and just skipped to this you're not going to understand. Get back up there and read. Itachi uses FTC similar to how Minato did against Obito in their fight and blitzes him. Or he takes advantage of that moment to put Obito under Tsukyomi. Either way this is a quick battle. Itachi wins.

1. FTC= A crow clone.
2. Yata Mirror doesn't defend against Kamui, Kamui opens inside of the Susano'o rendering Yata invalid.

 

[Demonic.]

itachi > Kishi

^^^^ XD


Why doesn't Variaboss join. That idio---I mean dude thinks Obito can solo BSM Naruto and SM Hashirama.

 

[Trúth]

1. FTC= A crow clone.
2. Yata Mirror doesn't defend against Kamui, Kamui opens inside of the Susano'o rendering Yata invalid.

It defends against Astral attacks. Kamui is useless.

Yes I read it but he still can send it to another dimension ^_^

No he cant. Explain how he can.

 

[LustyLover]

1. FTC= A crow clone.
2. Yata Mirror doesn't defend against Kamui, Kamui opens inside of the Susano'o rendering Yata invalid.

Yata defends against Kamui [

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]. Itachi won't let him get near him, so Obito would be forced to rely on long-ranged Kamui which is negated by the YM. When that happens and Obito suffers from the backlash of the technique, Itachi crosses the distance instantly with his Shunshin like this [

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] and decapitates him.​

 

[Kamui Sama]

kamui isn't coming into contact with yata, Obito just opens the barrier behind it and inside susano'o.

Meh this is a troll thread anyway Lol

 

[KamuiGodObito]

He opening a portal to his dimension which is warping susanoo in there game over.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol @ this FTC stuff. Just a crow clone.

-Amaterasu is useless.

-Genjutsu is useless.

-Due to him having the long range Kamui Susanoo is completely useless here too. Kamui warps it all away. Susanoo and Itachi.

Obito rapes.

Yata defends against Kamui [

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]. Itachi won't let him get near him, so Obito would be forced to rely on long-ranged Kamui which is negated by the YM. When that happens and Obito suffers from the backlash of the technique, Itachi crosses the distance instantly with his Shunshin like this [

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] and decapitates him.​

I can only hope that this is some kind of troll post.

 

[Trúth]

kamui isn't coming into contact with yata, Obito just opens the barrier behind it and inside susano'o.

Meh this is a troll thread anyway Lol

I don't understand how this is in anyway a troll? Do you understand what that means or do you just repeat the crap you hear? Yata blocks all attacks. Kamui doesn't get past it inside susanoo. That simple.

Lol @ this FTC stuff. Just a crow clone.

-Amaterasu is useless.

-Genjutsu is useless.

-Due to him having the long range Kamui Susanoo is completely useless here too. Kamui warps it all away. Susanoo and Itachi.

Obito rapes.

You didn't read

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Yata defends against Kamui [

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]. Itachi won't let him get near him, so Obito would be forced to rely on long-ranged Kamui which is negated by the YM. When that happens and Obito suffers from the backlash of the technique, Itachi crosses the distance instantly with his Shunshin like this [

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] and decapitates him.​

I understand that Yata Mirror defends against Kamui, but Kamui wouldn't even touch the mirror, it opens where the user is focusing, which in this case would be inside the Susano'o where Itachi is.
If Kamui travelled in a straight path like Amaterasu, then Yata would block it.

 

[KamuiGodObito]

^^^^ XD


Why doesn't Variaboss join. That idio---I mean dude thinks Obito can solo BSM Naruto and SM Hashirama.

That cold BSM cant really do anything.

 

[LustyLover]

I can only hope that this is some kind of troll post.

Lol, such a coincidence that I have the same thoughts about each and every one of yours, if they even qualify as such.​

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't understand how this is in anyway a troll? Do you understand what that means or do you just repeat the crap you hear? Yata blocks all attacks. Kamui doesn't get past it inside susanoo. That simple.



You didn't read

I read enough to realize this FTC stuff is nonsense. All he did was use a crow clone to feint Kabuto, and then use Shunshin to cut Kabuto. That was the majority of your argument.

Lol, such a coincidence that I have the same thoughts about each and every one of yours, if they even qualify as such.​

A troll/fanboy calling my posts troll posts doesn't bother me.

Itachi crosses the distance instantly with his Shunshin like this [2] and decapitates him.

Got any more Itachi wank to spew? Cause this one is pretty bad.

 

[LustyLover]

I understand that Yata Mirror defends against Kamui, but Kamui wouldn't even touch the mirror, it opens where the user is focusing, which in this case would be inside the Susano'o where Itachi is.
If Kamui travelled in a straight path like Amaterasu, then Yata would block it.

It does, though. If something is in its way, that's what it would be Kamuing. If Obito sees a persons chakra through a wall because of his Sharingan, that doesn't mean he'd be able to Kamui that person. He'd Kamui whatever is in his way.​

 

[Trúth]

I understand that Yata Mirror defends against Kamui, but Kamui wouldn't even touch the mirror, it opens where the user is focusing, which in this case would be inside the Susano'o where Itachi is.
If Kamui travelled in a straight path like Amaterasu, then Yata would block it.

The thing is he focus on Itachi who is in the susanoo behind the Yata. That means he's seeing Yata as well. It blocks

 

[Trúth]

I read enough to realize this FTC stuff is nonsense. All he did was use a crow clone to feint Kabuto, and then use Shunshin to cut Kabuto. That was the majority of your argument.

Should have read the whole thing. It worked on a DSM user with enhanced sensing abilities. You think it won't work on Obito who is mostly blind and has no sensing abilities?