Ms sasuke vs might guy

[Haizaki]

Clearly countered what he said.

What did you counter? He showed you the fact that Gai was weakened and still used hirudora. Do you want me to show you another?
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and he used the 7G after that.

The 8th gate is pure life force?? HAHA his stamina is great indeed. Did you forget he also felt pain after the first step initially but still did it several times even after he noted the pain was terrible

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??. Lool The 8G doesn't increase stamina. Never.

 

[Braiyan]

Guy has used Hirudora a grand total of 3 times in the manga. With the first time, he was completely fine right afterwards, and did not suffer any aftereffects until a couple of minutes later.

The other two times he used it, it was either explicitly

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that he was in an exhausted state before using Hirudora. With the case of Madara's Susano'o Guy had spent the whole day fighting the Swordsmen of the Mist, travelling to Naruto's location with Kakashi, fighting Obito and the Jinchuriki (where he ends up using the 6th Gate and Morning Peacock), then fighting Madara with Bee off panel before Hirudora even came into play, whereas with Juudara he broke his ribs and his arm suffering recoil from Hirudora, yet he still had the stamina to open and maintain the 8th Gate (

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), use Evening Elephant multiple times, and then Night Guy.

Thus the only evidence pointing towards Guy only having a limit of one Hirudora is evidence where Guy was exhausted from fighting (sometimes nonstop) for hours against other foes, and using lower level Gates along with their techniques, before resorting to Hirudora. It's also the same evidence that shows him releasing a higher level Gate after using said Hirudora, while exhausted, with broken ribs and a broken arm, and maintaining it whilst using other techniques for an extended period of time.

If an exhausted Guy whose ribs and arm were broken has the stamina to use a higher Gate along with its techniques for an extended period of time, then it's nowhere near a stretch to say that a fresh Guy with no broken bones can use Hirudora more than once, especially when he showed himself to be fine right after using one against Kisame.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Based on what? All that is said is that he focuses his chakra at the point where the last gate is located, and that is normal for all the gates. Quit with the assumptions. Get proof. That scan states he only passed out because he was at his limit, it doesn't help you at all.



Lol? He was briefly knocked out from getting smacked by the impact of Madara countering his own Hirudora. He was awake not even a few minutes later. Not to mention

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so he wasn't completely knocked out. He didn't pass out from using Hirudora, drop that nonsensical premise. If you were correct, why didn't Gai pass out after using it

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? In fact he was

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.

One Hirudora hasn't ever caused him to pass out, nor will it ever cause him to do so.

This is my last reply people hate to admit there wrong but ok. The fact of the matter is this. Gai isn't using multiple Hirudora's on Sasuke who can keep his Susanoo maintained longer than he can keep his gates since the only Gate that he maintained longer than 5mins was 8th.

What did you counter? He showed you the fact that Gai was weakened and still used hirudora. Do you want me to show you another?
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and he used the 7G after that.

The 8th gate is pure life force?? HAHA his stamina is great indeed. Did you forget he also felt pain after the first step initially but still did it several times even after he noted the pain was terrible

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??. Lool The 8G doesn't increase stamina. Never.

Used what all that scan showed was Gai saying he could fight and passed out why did you even post that non-sense l0l. I NEVER said 8th gates increased stamina people don't listen i said he uses his life force from 8th gates and ofc it would be painful because he dying slowly but surely when he uses it because his life force is being drained.

 

[KidGamer65]

This is my last reply people hate to admit there wrong but ok. The fact of the matter is this. Gai isn't using multiple Hirudora's on Sasuke who can keep his Susanoo maintained longer than he can keep his gates since the only Gate that he maintained longer than 5mins was 8th.

@bold: Its about time you just told us why you don't want to concede.

The fact of the matter is, Gai is using Multiple Hirudoras to break Sasuke's Susanoo. The fact of the matter is, Gai can use Multiple Hirudoras as he spammed Evening Elephant, a much stronger attack, on Madara, in the Eighth Gate. Stated to be more painful than the Seventh Gate. You say he can maintain the Eighth Gate for more than 5 minutes, but he can't maintain the less strenuous Seventh Gate? Lmao, are you reading the nonsense that you are typing now? Cause I am, and its comical You can't prove your stance so you start spouting some BS as usual. Get that bullshit out of here.

Concession accepted.

 

[Draegod]

My bro Evani and KG already shitted on the Sasuke supporters no diff. No need for me to do anything. So i'll break it down for every one who don't get why Guy wins.

- Ama is countered by

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simply powering up. Speed isn't even needed.
- Susanoo arrow is side stpped no diff
- Genjutsu is a non factor since guy wouldn't make direct Eye contact and he already mastered

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. SO any genjutsu outside of Tsukuyomi is basically useless! haha
- Taijutsu is out of the question as well. As we all know GAi shits on him!
- Sasuke cannot spam susanoo the entire fight while Guy can spam Gates like it's nothing!

Guy is simply too much my Guys! hmm

 

[LuckyMan]

I agree Gai wins but he's certainly not using several DTT back to back. After Kisame trapped them in his water prison Gai was so so weak after that DTT he could barely breathe. This was some time after he had used it too and he should have already been recovering so I certainly don't believe he's pushing more than 2 out.

 

[Touken]

I agree Gai wins but he's certainly not using several DTT back to back. After Kisame trapped them in his water prison Gai was so so weak after that DTT he could barely breathe. This was some time after he had used it too and he should have already been recovering so I certainly don't believe he's pushing more than 2 out.

His recovery time after 7G usage got much, much quicker as evidenced in the fight vs. Madara.

 

[Haizaki]

Lol Fake Debater get that nonsense out of here. I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm confused now. You said this:

That's because 8th gate is pure life force which is why he pumps huge amounts of chakra into his heart he's ready to die when using that tech. If you really believe his stamina is that great why did he pass out after using one attack in 7th gate.?

What were you implying then? Complete thrash. No proof of the 8th Gate healing his broken bones cuz this life force you're talking is nonsense. He was weakened and that is all to it.

 

[KidGamer65]

I agree Gai wins but he's certainly not using several DTT back to back. After Kisame trapped them in his water prison Gai was so so weak after that DTT he could barely breathe. This was some time after he had used it too and he should have already been recovering so I certainly don't believe he's pushing more than 2 out.

Lol, that's because he was submerged in water. Of course he won't be able to breathe. There was nothing wrong with him after using Hirudora. Nothing at all. He was spamming EE, a much stronger attack in a much more painful state, the Eighth Gate. Gai not being able to use more than one Hirudora is nonsense.

 

[TRE MERCER]

@bold: Its about time you just told us why you don't want to concede.

The fact of the matter is, Gai is using Multiple Hirudoras to break Sasuke's Susanoo. The fact of the matter is, Gai can use Multiple Hirudoras as he spammed Evening Elephant, a much stronger attack, on Madara, in the Eighth Gate. Stated to be more painful than the Seventh Gate. You say he can maintain the Eighth Gate for more than 5 minutes, but he can't maintain the less strenuous Seventh Gate? Lmao, are you reading the nonsense that you are typing now? Cause I am, and its comical You can't prove your stance so you start spouting some BS as usual. Get that bullshit out of here.

Concession accepted.

The stupidity in this post is beyond strong. You post a scan of Gai using Hirudora while tired and he's completely out of energy. Then you post another scan of an even more tired and worn out Gai out of energy using Hirudora so i guess you think 8th gates requires less energy than all of that since he spammed EE. He spammed EE because of his life force. Sasuke can win this battle in all types of way while Gai wins in 1. Sasuke could use his Susanoo to launch him in the air and summon his hawk and then spam Amaterasu the only way of Gai dodging is to go gates while he's in gates mode Sasuke is in the air on his hawk so Gai would run out of energy first while Sasuke takes flight. Hirudora is easily dodged by someone who is air bound. Because it only goes straight.

 

[Icelerate]

I change my mind, I think Gai can take this high difficulty. Will edit this post and explain in more detail later.

 

[Braiyan]

The stupidity in this post is beyond strong. You post a scan of Gai using Hirudora while tired and he's completely out of energy. Then you post another scan of an even more tired and worn out Gai out of energy using Hirudora so i guess you think 8th gates requires less energy than all of that since he spammed EE.

Or ... it could just be Guy has a lot of stamina.

He spammed EE because of his life force.

What proof do you have that states opening the 8th Gate gives Guy more life force? I have seen you state this multiple times now yet you never back it up.

Sasuke can win this battle in all types of way while Gai wins in 1. Sasuke could use his Susanoo to launch him in the air and summon his hawk

Then Guy jumps into the air while in 6th Gate and torches his hawk with

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. Then he goes into the 7th Gate and kills him with Hirudora. Jumping in the air isn't suddenly going to put him out of the range of Guy's attacks.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Damn, after reading the thread I am leaning towards Gai

 

[KidGamer65]

The stupidity in this post is beyond strong.

The same feeling I get from pretty much all of your posts.

You post a scan of Gai using Hirudora while tired and he's completely out of energy. Then you post another scan of an even more tired and worn out Gai out of energy using Hirudora so i guess you think 8th gates requires less energy than all of that since he spammed EE. He spammed EE because of his life force.

Lol...really now? I'm trying not to flame you here but, you just keep posting this BS.

1. Gai running out out of energy when he used Hirudora on Madara doesn't mean he runs out of energy and passes out after using it every single time, as shown when he used it on Kisame and was perfectly FINE.

2. Gai didn't run out of energy after using Hirudora on Madara either. He only got hit due to Madara's counter attack and broke some bones. So I don't know where this "I guess you think the last gate requires less energy than the rest" but it makes no sense. Especially since you don't use up energy to activate the Gates. Activating the Gates releases energy, which powers up the user.

3. Where is this life force BS coming from? I asked you to support your stance but I get no argument, just you talking about how people don't admit they are wrong, which is pretty ironic. Lol. A fresh Gai fought Kisame and beat him with Hirudora, yet you claim that Gai passes out after one Hirudora....except Gai was fine and showed no signs of fatigue.


And Braiyan brought up a good point when he mentioned Gai using Asa Kujaku and then Hirudora right afterwards. Evani has shitted on your argument as well. How many people will have to come before you just concede?

Sasuke can win this battle in all types of way while Gai wins in 1. Sasuke could use his Susanoo to launch him in the air and summon his hawk and then spam Amaterasu the only way of Gai dodging is to go gates while he's in gates mode Sasuke is in the air on his hawk so Gai would run out of energy first while Sasuke takes flight. Hirudora is easily dodged by someone who is air bound. Because it only goes straight.

The bold is where I should have stopped reading. MS Sasuke isn't spamming Amaterasu. Not with MS drawbacks. Gai would just evade it all in the 7th Gate so there is no point of wasting his stamina and chakra like that. Very nice joke though, and how is Susanoo going to throw him in the air when it is connected to his body?

So basically, you are telling me Sasuke will wait on his hawk while Gai runs out of energy.....Lol, weak argument. Gai simply uses his turtle and gets in the air like that.

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Not to mention he was in Base when he jumped that high. It'd be higher in Gates due to enhanced physical strength. He'd catch up to Sasuke and blast him with the Widespread Asa Kujaku if he decides to stay on his bird.

 

[Howling Fox]

gai murderstomps lel

 

[Haizaki]

The stupidity in this post is beyond strong. You post a scan of Gai using Hirudora while tired and he's completely out of energy. Then you post another scan of an even more tired and worn out Gai out of energy using Hirudora so i guess you think 8th gates requires less energy than all of that since he spammed EE. He spammed EE because of his life force. Sasuke can win this battle in all types of way while Gai wins in 1. Sasuke could use his Susanoo to launch him in the air and summon his hawk and then spam Amaterasu the only way of Gai dodging is to go gates while he's in gates mode Sasuke is in the air on his hawk so Gai would run out of energy first while Sasuke takes flight. Hirudora is easily dodged by someone who is air bound. Because it only goes straight.

You're the worst debater on this site. You can't read and examine scans carefully. The life force is thrash. The 8th gate doesn't require less energy. You talk a lot without scans to back you up. What a pathetic debater.

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You clearly don't understand how the Gates work do you? The higher the gate, the stronger you are. When the 8th gate is opened, all other gates are opened as well that's why Lee says he could imagine how he pain of the tomon(5) "already" let alone the shimon. So it's just the full power of all the gates while the others were opened as well. Nothing is different about it except the difference in power up. The gates limit the flow of chakra in the body . When opened, it's no longer limited

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. That's all. You're making nonsense up.

Lee says EE is supposed to be a continuous attack from 1-5 but Gai stopped Midway which was clearly due to pain that he had to get used to while he was weakened before. Of course he got used to it. He had the stamina to keep doing it for a long time despite the pain. You're constantly talking nonsense.
He spammed EE because he had the stamina to do it. As simple as that. Nothing more to it. The life force is gibberish.


You've been shat on constanly even with this 7G stamina aspect, yet you're arguing nonsense.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Or ... it could just be Guy has a lot of stamina.




What proof do you have that states opening the 8th Gate gives Guy more life force? I have seen you state this multiple times now yet you never back it up.



Then Guy jumps into the air while in 6th Gate and torches his hawk with

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. Then he goes into the 7th Gate and kills him with Hirudora. Jumping in the air isn't suddenly going to put him out of the range of Guy's attacks.

I can't dumb this down anymore so read carefully. Gai used Hirudora in a weakened state and

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Now mind you Gai has still been fighting all the way up till here and he used Hirudora again

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So ur telling me Gai is still running off this same stamina that he kept passing out from after using 1 Hirudora? Now here comes another question while Gai is in 8th gate if he was just running on his remaining stamina when did he do

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This is were life forced kicked in and that's why he was able to spam EE. If your still implying that he is running off pure stamina then your also implying that Hirudora is more taxing than EE because he used multiple EE's while he only used 1 Hirudora and passed out. Also he is just as weakened if not more weakened than he was

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Inb4 someone says o he had Naruto's chakra that why remember he had Naruto's chakra 2x

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And still passed out when he used it against Madara.

 

[Draegod]

It's funny how uchiha fans thought GAi lost. Lol read the manga ppl!

 

[KidGamer65]

I can't dumb this down anymore so read carefully. Gai used Hirudora in a weakened state and passed out[Now mind you Gai has still been fighting all the way up till here and he used Hirudora again here. So ur telling me Gai is still running off this same stamina that he kept passing out from after using 1 Hirudora? Now here comes another question while Gai is in 8th gate if he was just running on his remaining stamina when did he do this This is were life forced kicked in and that's why he was able to spam EE. If your still implying that he is running off pure stamina then your also implying that Hirudora is more taxing than EE because he used multiple EE's while he only used 1 Hirudora and passed out. Also he is just as weakened if not more weakened than he was here

I'm just going to say something I'm sure I've said to you before. Learn to read the manga.

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after the Juubi was revived, so he wasn't fighting off the same stamina from the Edo Madara fight to the Jin Madara fight. And Hirudora wasn't used after this, nor was he even using the Gates after this until he saved Kakashi's life.


Wrong. There is no "life force" powering him in the Eighth Gate. It didn't kick in anywhere. After being restored by Kurama Gai used Hirudora once, and then used the Eighth Gate against Madara. So no that doesn't imply that Hirudora is more taxing than the Eighth Gate as he wasn't fatigued or feeling any pain from the Seventh Gate, but started feeling pain once he used the Eighth Gate.

Stop with the BS. Its been going on for way too long now.

Inb4 someone says o he had Naruto's chakra that why remember he had Naruto's chakra 2x 1 and 2 And still passed out when he used it against Madara.

Lol this guy just doesn't learn. He didn't pass out from Hirudora you clown. He didn't even pass out when he used it on Juubi Jin Madara, and that was AFTER Naruto had passed the alliance his chakra.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I'm just going to say something I'm sure I've said to you before. Learn to read the manga.

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after the Juubi was revived, so he wasn't fighting off the same stamina from the Edo Madara fight to the Jin Madara fight. And Hirudora wasn't used after this, nor was he even using the Gates after this until he saved Kakashi's life.


Wrong. There is no "life force" powering him in the Eighth Gate. It didn't kick in anywhere. After being restored by Kurama Gai used Hirudora once, and then used the Eighth Gate against Madara. So no that doesn't imply that Hirudora is more taxing than the Eighth Gate as he wasn't fatigued or feeling any pain from the Seventh Gate, but started feeling pain once he used the Eighth Gate.

Stop with the BS. Its been going on for way too long now.




Lol this guy just doesn't learn. He didn't pass out from Hirudora you clown. He didn't even pass out when he used it on Juubi Jin Madara, and that was AFTER Naruto had passed the alliance his chakra.

Didn't bother to read because you never wanted to admit your wrong i remember on that thread you kept on saying Gai didn't make contact with Madara even after loads of Manga scans where thrown at you.