Old Base Sage Naruto was always above MS Susanoo Sasuke!!

[slimreaper]

The explanation was there itself U_U

"I can't escape the fact that I'm the Nine-tails Jinchuriki, it's time for me to stop running."

How does that justify his saying that he needs the chakra to beat sasuke? Face it, that scan solos this thread

 

[frozen5]

How does that justify his saying that he needs the chakra to beat sasuke? Face it, that scan solos this thread

spread more red apples kid you failed and you know it

 

[ANiMUS]

The explanation was there itself U_U

"I can't escape the fact that I'm the Nine-tails Jinchuriki, it's time for me to stop running."



Lel this fodder Lol



Indeed.



Nah Itachi's MS level was much greater.



Lel another one with lack of comprehension skill Lol



By the time that happened Naruto started to overpower Kaguya Lol

V3 is V3. Itachi's is stronger though. Sasuke being able to use Enton the way V4 can would be formidable though

 

[Cruciatus]

^ Could this post be anymore wrong?

1. Danzou was severely handicapped whereas pain wasn't, Naruto did have a 1v1 against full powered Deva and he beat him U_U

2. Not really, Naruto survived because of his will, Kurama merely had a rampage, Naruto fought after Minato suppressed Kurama.

3. Never did, Viz proves Naruto admitted him superiority.

4. If anything given he knew more than Hagoromo, he's word is the Law of NV U_U

5. Oh but he had Lol

Oh would you look at that, the so called "solid" 5 reasons got refuted Lol

1. Danzo didn't have access to KA, then chose not to use it after he gained access, his aim was to kill. Deva Path didn't have access to Bansho Tennin, Chibaku Tensei, or Shinra Tensei, his aim was to capture. I think we know who was more handicapped.

2. Kurama's rampage is what freed him from being pinned down. If Kurama didn't rampage, the Deva Path would have captured him, or could have impaled him in the head if he was aiming to kill. His will didn't free him, Kurama did.

3. No he didn't.

4. And his word is a lie to provoke the Indra incarnation to be against the Ashura incarnation so the seal to defeat Kaguya can't be used.

5. Doesn't mean BZ knew about it, or that Sasuke himself even knew about it. BZ was ignorant to these abilities.

Look at that, your refute failed.

 

[sharingansennin]

I've read this a lot here on the base that MS Sasuke beats SM Naruto or they're equal blah blah blah... The truth however is far from it, let me elaborate.

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First off the Black Zetsu, i.e. Kaguya's will/son who has been around from Hagoromo's time, who pitched Indra against Ashura himself confirmed that,

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Sage Mode Naruto was indeed stronger than Mangekyo Sharingan Sasuke!

Now if you have been following this series you know that Black Zetsu's word >> Kishi's word >> Fan Opinion U_U

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Secondly, lets do Feat-wise comparison:

Major Battle:

Spoiler

SM Naruto beat PO6P with mere "info" from others.

MS Sasuke beat a Handicapped Danzou with "a lot" of help from others and Danzou saving chakra for fight against the then "Madara" i.e. Tobi aka Obito Uchiha!

Other Significant Comparison Battle:

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A mere SM Clone of Naruto beat Edo Third Raikage who is comfortably above 4th Raikage!

MS Sasuke barely survived against 4th Raikage who is much weaker than his father 3rd Raikage U_U

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Lastly,

With SM Naruto only gets stronger and keeps on getting stronger, there's no end to his power whereas with MS Sasuke's power[from the time he shifts to MS] keeps on decreasing to a point he's unable to move or see.

SM Naruto can literally toy with MS Sasuke with moving circles around him thanks to increased speed and sensing due to SM, dodging everything Sasuke has to offer and casully kicking him around with Frog Fu which can't be seen or sensed. Heck Naruto can take this with his eye's closed smh.

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Honestly speaking, Naruto got the broken powerup whereas Sasuke got fodder powerup, that's how it's always has been, Naruto trains and gets deserved broken powerups and Sasuke gets free but fodder powerups U_U

Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers

that was after the 5 kage battle troll

 

[slimreaper]

spread more red apples kid you failed and you know it

Show me where itachi said hed give sasuke power...

 

[Bogard]

Limit

Pain arc SM Naruto hold SM for 5minutes only

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And it takes time for him to gather natural energy

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So at that period in time, he couldn't exactly fight in SM unless he got the necessarly prep time to do so

It's for that reason Naruto judged it was better for him to train on how long he can maintain the mode to have a chance against Sasuke [

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The Sasuke against Danzo could outlast the 10minutes Izanagi of Danzo during their fight(each Izanagi eye last 1 minute), so in terms of how long they can use their cards, MS Sasuke has the edge over him

Besides, Pain arc SM Naruto could only throw 2 RS in that mode

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And he would run out right away if he does

And i don't think FRS will work on Susanoo either way, so MS Sasuke would edge out U_U

 

[Minator93]

I mean, Naruto said himself that if they fight they both die. How can he be above MS Sasuke with a statement like this? :erm:
Plus in that scan he said he needs the Kyuubi to fight Sasuke.

Also, I can't agree with the arguement that Naruto had barley any help against Pain when he had plenty: Kyuubi, Minato, Hinata and nearly every frog there is while Sasuke had Karin and his Hawk against Danzo. Naruto also had plenty of help against the 3rd Raikage and if it wasn't for Gaara the 4th Raikage would have been crippeled. Sasuke didn't barley lose, Ay never had a chance of winning.

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't put MS Sasuke above SM Naruto, imo it's pretty even.

Again, all of Indra = Ashura was false, Naruto only had a feeling nothing more, Hashirama beat Madara, and it was BZ that pitched Indra against Ashura, even Hagoromo didn't know the whole truth. After that history chapter it was clear that it's nothing special and Naruto is as the canon has confirmed over and over again stronger than Sasuke!

You can't count Hinato or Minato a help, they didn't in a strict manner help Naruto, they only angered him to get more power that's all, whereas in Sasuke's case he's gotten Legit help from Tobi and Taka. Also the frog summons are a part of Naruto's power U_U

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Already addressed it.

This actually was a given which many people denied. I'm glad someone made a thread using manga feats and evidences to restate this. Good thread

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Indeed kotori.

 

[frozen5]

Show me where itachi said hed give sasuke power...

cant he did it in private

 

[sharingansennin]

I've read this a lot here on the base that MS Sasuke beats SM Naruto or they're equal blah blah blah... The truth however is far from it, let me elaborate.

---

First off the Black Zetsu, i.e. Kaguya's will/son who has been around from Hagoromo's time, who pitched Indra against Ashura himself confirmed that,

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Sage Mode Naruto was indeed stronger than Mangekyo Sharingan Sasuke!

Now if you have been following this series you know that Black Zetsu's word >> Kishi's word >> Fan Opinion U_U

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Secondly, lets do Feat-wise comparison:

Major Battle:

Spoiler

SM Naruto beat PO6P with mere "info" from others.

MS Sasuke beat a Handicapped Danzou with "a lot" of help from others and Danzou saving chakra for fight against the then "Madara" i.e. Tobi aka Obito Uchiha!

Other Significant Comparison Battle:

Spoiler

A mere SM Clone of Naruto beat Edo Third Raikage who is comfortably above 4th Raikage!

MS Sasuke barely survived against 4th Raikage who is much weaker than his father 3rd Raikage U_U

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Lastly,

With SM Naruto only gets stronger and keeps on getting stronger, there's no end to his power whereas with MS Sasuke's power[from the time he shifts to MS] keeps on decreasing to a point he's unable to move or see.

SM Naruto can literally toy with MS Sasuke with moving circles around him thanks to increased speed and sensing due to SM, dodging everything Sasuke has to offer and casully kicking him around with Frog Fu which can't be seen or sensed. Heck Naruto can take this with his eye's closed smh.

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Honestly speaking, Naruto got the broken powerup whereas Sasuke got fodder powerup, that's how it's always has been, Naruto trains and gets deserved broken powerups and Sasuke gets free but fodder powerups U_U

Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers

Naruto vs. Pain with FULL INTEL(NARUTO LOST FYI)

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3rd Raikage is Stronger, but 4th Raikage is Faster

HOW ABOUT THE FACT NARUTO NEEDS TO PREP TO EVEN USE SAGE MODE. FROM BASE AS ALL FIGHTS START SASUKE RAPES, NARUTO CAN'T INSTANTLY GO INTO SAGE MODE

 

[iNotorious]

Naruto vs. Pain with FULL INTEL(NARUTO LOST FYI)

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3rd Raikage is Stronger, but 4th Raikage is Faster

HOW ABOUT THE FACT NARUTO NEEDS TO PREP TO EVEN USE SAGE MODE. FROM BASE AS ALL FIGHTS START SASUKE RAPES, NARUTO CAN'T INSTANTLY GO INTO SAGE MODE

He stated SM naruto vs MS Sasuke, meaning naruto is already on sage mode.

 

[slimreaper]

Already addressed it.

You never addressed the part where naruto said he needs the 9 tails chakra to fight sasuke. You ran from it like usual. Stop running.

Why would naruto say he "needs" the 9 tails chakra if he thinks he can beat sasuke without it?

The wanting to face the 9 tails bit doesn't explain anything so save that shit

 

[Cooh]

Again, all of Indra = Ashura was false, Naruto only had a feeling nothing more, Hashirama beat Madara, and it was BZ that pitched Indra against Ashura, even Hagoromo didn't know the whole truth. After that history chapter it was clear that it's nothing special and Naruto is as the canon has confirmed over and over again stronger than Sasuke!

You can't count Hinato or Minato a help, they didn't in a strict manner help Naruto, they only angered him to get more power that's all, whereas in Sasuke's case he's gotten Legit help from Tobi and Taka. Also the frog summons are a part of Naruto's power U_U



Already addressed it.



Indeed kotori.

It wasn't a feeling, Naruto was 100% sure about this. This has nothing to do with Indra and Ashura.

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He looks dead serious.

And you wouldn't consider that helping?
Obito did nothing the whole fight and Sasuke only had one Taka member with him...
Mate, I think you're a bit biased whenever it comes to Sasuke

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

1. He was still handicapped in that he was aiming to capture, not kill. And his most powerful powers weren't available to him

The intent to kill would matter if he had the opportunity to kill

Asura was one paneled in at the start of the fight, Human path was gone soon later on and the rest of the paths dont have anything to kill with

Summons were dealt with easily

The only time that opportunity came when naruto was out of SM and was captured and i have already covered it

3. Post it again please

check the first page

4. You clearly misunderstand why BZ lied in the first place. The plan to revive Kaguya and start IT was in motion, yes, but BZ needed to keep the Indra and Ashura reincarnations from joining forces. What better way to do that than to pit the Indra incarnation against the Ashura incarnation than by telling a lie that will provoke him to fight the Ashura incarnation? BZ's plan is to have one incarnation kill the other so the seal to defeat Kaguya couldn't be set in place and their goals would have a 100% chance of coming through. THAT is why BZ would lie.

2. If means the feat he provided for SM isn't actually a SM Naruto feat, so his thread begins to fall apart there.

5. Doesn't mean BZ knew he could use them.

thats some mighty imagination you got there, but black zetsu has never expected the reincarnates to work together or cooperate

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so no, he has no reason to lie

the reason why he was considered stronger than sasuke because he defeated the "unbeatable" pein

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[frozen5]

You never addressed the part where naruto said he needs the 9 tails chakra to fight sasuke. You ran from it like usual. Stop running.

Why would naruto say he "needs" the 9 tails chakra if he thinks he can beat sasuke without it?

The wanting to face the 9 tails bit doesn't explain anything so save that shit

because sasuke was borrowing more power than he was.. so he had to up his game

 

[Sharingan King]

Lel. Another Minator troll thread. Even Naruto knows that without Kurama he is no match for Sasuke:

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Naruto: "I'll need the kyubi to fight Sasuke."

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[frozen5]

Lel. Another Minator troll thread. Even Naruto knows that without Kurama he is no match for Sasuke:

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Naruto: "I'll need the kyubi to fight Sasuke."

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because sasuke was borrowing more power than he was.. so he had to up his game

 

[slimreaper]

because sasuke was borrowing more power than he was.. so he had to up his game

How the **** would he know that?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Spoiler

 

[frozen5]

How the **** would he know that?

itachi told him...