My overall opinion on the Sharingan

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In the beginning of the introduction of Naruto, I thought the Sharingan was awesome. Think about it for a second. A Kekkei Genkai that could predict movements of the opponent as well as copy ninjutsu,genjutsu and taijutsu as well as the ability to sense chakra.

It was very impressive, and it helped to carve the image of the Uchiha very early on in the series as a legendary clan worthy of its reputation. It seemed a bit stronger than the Byakugan, but it didn't bother me that much.

Then the Mangekyo Sharingan came along. This was introduced as the modification of the base level sharingan which could give the user two very powerful techniques. Amaterasu, which was the ultimate fire-based technique which produced flames hotter than sun, and Tsukuyomi, one of the most powerful genjutsu in existence.

I was okay with the MS because there was something to balance this technique out. For one, the use of it could render the user blind if they use it constantly (a characteristic which seems to be forgotten as the series progresses, but I will get to that later). And two, the method used in getting the MS was morally ethically dubious: one had to kill there best friend. These boundaries helped to ensure that it would not get spammed to the point of ridiculousness without consequences.

In other versions of the MS, one could teleport things to other dimensions. This was seen with Obito's/Kakashi's MS. As they did not use it for anything other than that, I was able to accept that.

Now, this is the part where I have to get critical. It all started with the introduction of the Susanoo, which is the ability to produce a large diety-like figure to protect you. Okay then...well...um...was it not enough that we already had all those other abilities for the Sharingan? I know that we can "justify" it by saying it is a rarity, and that it causes extreme pain to the user, but still, all these abilities plus Susanoo on a silver platter just because one just so happens to be Uchiha? Really?

That's not even the worst part of it. Oh no...no where near that yet!
There is also the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, which not only restore the sight of the user, but they will not experience bad side-effects again! So no more pain from using Susanoo! HURR DURR DI DURR!

The justification for this new thingy is that it apparently is a difficult process to achieve. Apparently several Uchiha throughout history have tried and failed to get it, resulting in "fruitless sacrifices". Oh no! Gasp! It's funny though that we don't hear about those people in the plot, and that no one in the plot seems to have suffered this fate. So this disadvantage doesn't really "exist" in the mind of the reader.
It reminds me of the time they mentioned in the plot that 40,000 ninja got killed (about half the combined forces) within the first day of the Fourth Shinobi War (which wasn't really a war, but that's a separate issue altogether). How can one truly suspend disbelief if absolutely none of any of the established characters happened to be among those people. To this date, the only established character death was Neji Hyuga, which is pathetic really.

Oh, and if that wasn't enough, behold the most hax ability of them all: IZANAGI!

And guess what it does.

It gives the ability to manipulate illusion and reality.

Illusion. And. Reality.

Let that sink in for a second. (I'm assuming that most people would already know this by now, but still, just really let it sink in).

All at the cost of not using the eye EVER AGAIN! GASP! HERP DI DERP! What a crippling disadvantage!

So awful that when Danzo Shimura used it he just so happened to have them all along his arm so he could use them several times!


So awful that when Obito used it against Konan that he managed to easily replace it with a rinnegan!

It hasn't become a useful tool in times of need anymore. It has become the ultimate hax. I do not care about these so called "drawbacks" because:

1: They are not real drawbacks. They always seem to find a sneaky way to counteract them.

2. Of the fact that the Uchiha have these abilities at there disposal regardless. Being granted abilities with drawbacks because of being born to a legendary clan (as opposed to actually working for it) is much stronger than having none of these abilities at all. Which is why the Byakugan suffers from being balanced. The Byakugan is a necessity for the Hyuga because of its "Gentle Fist" style. The Sharingan, even in its earlier stages, was an extra tool on top of everything else.


I do not care if you like the Sharingan. But it just annoys me the huge amount of people who go to great lengths in order to justify its fundamentally overpowered nature in the plot.

If it wasn't for the Sharingan, Sasuke would be dead several times by now.

Even Madara, who legitimately lost the battle with the 1st Hokage, had to rely on Izanagi (yep, that thing again) in order to escape alive.

Can people just at least admit that much, whether it bothers you or not, or whether you like it or not...
 
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Sharingan is hax!We all know it.Thing is though If hashirama was never alive,none of the counteracts that allowed abuse of the deadliest techniques would ever work so..i blame Hashi..!:p
 

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To be honest, I think the whole thing is hilarious. In fact, why don't we make a new ability for the MS?

The ability to travel back in time and into the future, all at the cost of one eye. And that reverses all the the bad things that have ever happened in Naruto!

Sharingan. For the Win!
 

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Hey to activate MS you don't have to kill your friend,As Toborama said,when an Uchiha love sth or sb,and then loose it,it make a chakra in they're head that has some sensation on they're eyes,and that is sharingan.And instead love,they hatred will progress untill it becomes unstoppable.While the hatred is progressing,they will gain more power full sharingan( that has two comma like sasuke's before he joined orochimaru,and the one that has 3 comma like Itachi.Sorry I couldn't find any other name but comma!) And then MS and after that EMS.Hey.ahh,I have a question guys.I am new and I want to post a thread,what should I do????
 

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i dont care. its an ability and a kekkai genkai. the more you show it seems unfair, the better and more powerful it looks. and the more you look butthurt.

only strong ones who'll survive. you just show that uchihas are strong
 

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I agree that it is OP and that Uchiha's can use those power ups without even training for it but it is needed to balance the power gap between Uchiha and Senju. After all Senju's have incredible unique chakra levels and a counter should be made
 

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i dont care. its an ability and a kekkai genkai. the more you show it seems unfair, the better and more powerful it looks. and the more you look butthurt.

only strong ones who'll survive. you just show that uchihas are strong
But strong ninja have to put in a lot of work to become what they are. I'll even acknowledged Sasuke on this one, because he was able to train his non-kekkei genkai abilities to a strong level (in particular his deductive logic on the battlefield).

Sage mode is also an ability. But that requires training.

Standard elemental ninjutsu is also an ability. But that requires training.

Taijutsu is also an ability. But that requires training. (Even the 8 gates; ESPECIALLY the 8 gates)

Hybrid Kekkei Genkai, such as Mokuton and Ice Release, if its anything like its standard ninjutsu counterparts, would require training. Perhaps even more so, as you have to combine two elements at once.
Even advance Kekkei Genkai, like Dust Release would require training.
The only techniques that I am aware of that require very little training, if any, are the kekkei genkai eye techniques.
But even the Byakugan requires training to use it properly in the context of “Gentle Fist”.
I don’t mind if anyone likes the sharingan. People are entitled to an opinion. But saying that something is an “ability” doesn’t negate the fact that it is overpowered. And it makes our suspension of disbelief become compromised as well as our respect for the plot.
The sharingan was already pretty powerful at base level.
 
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So basically you're angry at the sharnnimgan for being overpowered but you never mention the rinnegan? Your logic is flawlessly flawed.

Sasuke would be dead without the sharnningan? That's the saddest excuse in anime history "Oh that or this character would be dead if they didn't have this or that" just stop Naruto would be dead with kyruubi, haku would be dead without zabuza hell Naruto would be dead without sasuke and vise versa.

The sharnningan is only spiritually powerful to even out the senju's physical prowess. Yin=yang, you talk about broken but don't mention how broken hashirama was" or even current Naruto? This thread is just a bash thread you didn't really give any valid points you just hate the sharnningan for the sake of hating the sharnningan *at this point*.

Susano wasn't a bad addition as yes only a few uchiha can awaken it. But as you see madara's susano would counteract hashirama's thousand hand Buddha technique. Susano really helped to give cool insight as each susano has different weapons.

How is EMS remotely bad? I mean seriously for the plot sasuke would be blind and he wouldn't be alive, no alive sasuke equals no beatdiwn of kaguya and no current madara meaning...naruto the series should've never happened... Unless bz gets new incarnations.

you just bash without any forethought if what would happen if they didn't exist, plz restrain from bashing unless you have a valid reason and it wouldn't destroy plot.
 

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So basically you're angry at the sharnnimgan for being overpowered but you never mention the rinnegan? Your logic is flawlessly flawed.

Sasuke would be dead without the sharnningan? That's the saddest excuse in anime history "Oh that or this character would be dead if they didn't have this or that" just stop Naruto would be dead with kyruubi, haku would be dead without zabuza hell Naruto would be dead without sasuke and vise versa.

The sharnningan is only spiritually powerful to even out the senju's physical prowess. Yin=yang, you talk about broken but don't mention how broken hashirama was" or even current Naruto? This thread is just a bash thread you didn't really give any valid points you just hate the sharnningan for the sake of hating the sharnningan *at this point*.

Susano wasn't a bad addition as yes only a few uchiha can awaken it. But as you see madara's susano would counteract hashirama's thousand hand Buddha technique. Susano really helped to give cool insight as each susano has different weapons.

How is EMS remotely bad? I mean seriously for the plot sasuke would be blind and he wouldn't be alive, no alive sasuke equals no beatdiwn of kaguya and no current madara meaning...naruto the series should've never happened... Unless bz gets new incarnations.

you just bash without any forethought if what would happen if they didn't exist, plz restrain from bashing unless you have a valid reason and it wouldn't destroy plot.
Oh trust me, I have a problem with the rinnegan. XD Just because I haven't talked about it yet, doesn't mean that its not in the back of my mind.

And other characters? Yes, they would be dead too without plot not jutsu. Not just Sasuke. I mean the Kyuubi is just totally hax. In theory, Naruto should be dead, because using the Kyuubi is meant to gradual decrease a person's lifespan.

But that doesn't make it "right". A story needs to be character driven, not plot driven. This means that all the decisions made by characters have to given the impression that they have a life of their own. That they are beyond conventional plot points needed to make a clean story. That characters can pull the plug any minute and have an unpredictable or human quality. When something is plot driven, it becomes predictable because it gives the impression that no matter what, characters must be a certain way.

Take Deidara for example. Lets talk about that character. When Deidara was up against Sasuke, you could see the struggle in Deidara as he tries to prove himself against the cool-headed genius which is Sasuke. He was really the underdog. And that makes a character human. The struggle. He was forced to become an Akatsuki by Itachi, who completely destroyed his ego (which was admittedly large and fragile) through the simple use of the MS, making Deidara question the nature of his art. So he worked hard. Really hard. And used his brilliantly constructed abilities against Sasuke in hope of getting revenge. But he lost, all because of the Sharingan, the very thing Deidara despised in the first place.

So yes, the Sharingan definitely has a plot purpose. It just makes characters that go up against it more human, and overall better characters than the person who wears it. Because the Sharingan is OP. If it didn't exist, the Naruto world would actually be a better place.

As far as the Senju are concerned, the 1st Hokage originally was not meant to be that OP. Originally it was said that the 3rd was the strongest. Then they said that the 4th was stronger than the 3rd. And then somewhere down the line they made the 1st Hokage stronger than everyone. So yeah, that's why the Sharingan is probably so powerful. Because somewhere down the line, they decided to invent a Senju clan which happened to be OP and they needed a way to counteract them. Or was it the other way round. I don't know...

EDIT: The First was even defeated by the Third.
 

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not every uchiha awakens sharingan while hyuuga are born with byakugan and can practice their shit early on.

This thread transmits one thing. Its the butthurt you feel over sharingan>byakugan.
The truth is that byakugan too is of help to base hyuuga abilities its just they dont have many
 
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