Explaining how Yin Seal / Byakugo is futile against Juuken Style

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Forgetting one small detail. they unblocked them externally. The person who is being affected only has one means of countering it. keep inn mind it wasn't just one medic who tended to hinata. Her internal organs were damaged too. and even after that she was still injured during Naruto and Neji's fight.

Just becuase its the pinacle of med nin doesnt mean is capable of doing everything. I take it you didnt read it properly or you wouldnt of said that Blaze.
U will nvr how they did and Yin seal users calibre is U must how many medical nins.Yes injure She dosen't have Self Regenration.


maybe but i agree on not reading it becoz u know massive CC's fanfictions.Anyway reading it now and +rep for making it
@Tobi98 if jyuuken blocked chakra points then most likely seal will vanish and if not force chakra from seal through body isn't that how they use chakra from the seal??????
 
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You can't use Tsunade cut in half in your thread for an example. Because she wasn't healing herself alone, she would have blown that joined n left those clowns in about 15 if she had decided to heal herself. Also she wasn't in byakugou mode when she was cut in half at least we can't prove she was.

I disagree with you claiming their byakugou chakra does not have quality. I would need you to prove that if you were to include it in your thread. I'd like to believe such large quantity of chakra stored in that one point would be pretty dense. But this whole thing should be excluded since it cannot be proven how the quality of chakra should be to unblock a chakra point.

Also it's a seal. And it is in the way of one chakra point by the looks of it I doubt it would have any different an effect if someone with gentle fist struck it like would be striking a kyubi seal or the seal that bounds neji himself. Alot more mechanics go into sealing jutsu that might think.

I believe that the byakugou seal can reopen closed chakra points.

Im using parts of that time to aid my argument, not the entire example. and we cannot use baseless speculation here. Tsunnade healing was accelerated by karin.

Well its farily simmple. Its normal chakra gathered in one place, the quality hasnt changed but the quantity has. Nothing special has been mentioned about Tsunade or Sakruas chakra. Only her amount of chakra was praised.

Okay let me give you an example. If 5 gaurds are blocking a alley and 5 other guys come who are far stronger in basic combat and strength, then who wins? its common sense. there is nothign special about nejis chakra but Tailed beasts chakra has been said to be specifically strong. If you seal chakra away, it is no longer apart of your main pathway unless later used. I know how seals work and thats why i call it a secondary source.

Byakugo heals wounds, not the chakra pathway.

I think they can open the chakra points by releasing the seal, not that it matters as Neji can just close them again and there's nothing they can do that time

How are they opening it if the pathways are blocked?

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The seal doesn't mean anything sigh

if you loose the seal it doesn't mean you have no more chakra. You can loose your seal and still have enough base reserves. It just so happened that she had no more chakra when she lost the seal because she was using everything she got.

Plural 2 people. Tsunade and sakura healed the alliance.

By this time she had used up most of Dans chakra that was supplied to her after it had dissapeared AND some of the chakra she gained after resting a bit during that healing altercation. She needs enough chakra to keep herself alive.

The seal assits base chakra, are you forgetting that its connected to her pathway? she isnt JUST using yin seal as chakra, shes also using the chakra she had before activating it.

Sakura reccently awakened her seal so at that time she had more than enough chakra to heal the ASF.

Naruto was able to open his chakra pathway with small amount of kyuubi's chakra not even going 1 tail mode
and bro CELL regenration.
if u know what CELL is and where it present

And your using quantity? i already stated that it was the quality of hte chakra that allowed him to bypass juuken not the amouunt of chakra. Cells are not present in chakra though and the chakra pathway doesnt use cells. Only the body itself and she is not able to heal WITHOUT chakra so mentioning cells when she cant heal is irrelavant. She needs chakra to heal which she wont have if its not avalible to her.
 

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I need a scan where it was stated the that small portion of Kyuubi's chakra ( aka still not Kage, let alone Yin seal level reserve ) was able to unblock his tenketsu points because of its so called 'quality'.
 

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How can you close it if you can't use chakra control...?

And that's exactly what is the Byakugou for. To keep unblocking her closed chakra points. Tsunade was able to mold chakra while being cut in half ( ~ 40- 50 % of her tenketsu points were gone ) so don't you dare to tell me she can't when some of her chakra points are blocked.

Not to mention Neji has to touch his target first, which isn't going to happen until he shows the ability to tank a Byakugou user's AoE attacks.


At any rate, I'll try not to post here anymore, I don't want to take part in this. Let's discuss this is private.
 

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U will nvr how they did and Yin seal users calibre is U must how many medical nins.Yes injure She dosen't have Self Regenration.


maybe but i agree on not reading it becoz u know massive CC's fanfictions.Anyway reading it now and +rep for making it
@Tobi98 if jyuuken blocked chakra points then most likely seal will vanish and if not force chakra from seal through body isn't that how they use chakra from the seal??????

I didnt understand a word you said dude on the first part. There are mechanics you have to consider.

thank you

I agree, Tsunade doesn't become fatigued and cannot move because she is out of chakra. It happens because the backlash of using those jutsu kick in. After her body has adjusted to the effects the jutsu has on her she reverts back to her usual self. At least that's how it happened in part 1. We never got to see in shippuden cuz dan saved her.

She used Creation rebirth which is why the seal dissapeared.
What happened then and in the war are different

This has been countered so many times before.... I know you know you are wrong and all you wanted with this is to start a shitstorm.

So i put it up knowing its wrong? I just want decent counters, i dont want to start a flame war, just answers and reasonable coutners

I analysed this theory of yours and came to the conclusion that it is wrong.

Fair enough
 

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I need a scan where it was stated the that small portion of Kyuubi's chakra ( aka still not Kage, let alone Yin seal level reserve ) was able to unblock his tenketsu points because of its so called 'quality'.

so something needs to be explicitly said by someone for it to be a solid fact? you need to learn to read inbetween the lines. The information we have on tailed beast chakra confirms that the quality of chakra makes a difference in certain situations.
 

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so something needs to be explicitly said by someone for it to be a solid fact? you need to learn to read inbetween the lines. The information we have on tailed beast chakra confirms that the quality of chakra makes a difference in certain situations.

I said scans and not theory.
 

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She used Creation rebirth which is why the seal dissapeared.
What happened then and in the war are different

@ the other reply, to heal those woulds the chakra must flow into the network. And still you are assuming the chakra in the seals quality.

And yes that was creation rebith but what is byakugou? It's just a consistent version.

I don't understand why you think a jutsu that uses the seals chakra would exhaust the base reserves of Tsunade. But yh im pretty confident that the seals chakra is good enough to reopen networks.
 

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And your using quantity? i already stated that it was the quality of hte chakra that allowed him to bypass juuken not the amouunt of chakra. Cells are not present in chakra though and the chakra pathway doesnt use cells. Only the body itself and she is not able to heal WITHOUT chakra so mentioning cells when she cant heal is irrelavant. She needs chakra to heal which she wont have if its not avalible to her.


Quality is laugable reason.In that case Sasuke will stomp hyuga's without Sharingan
The chakra points are present on specific spots of body and Self regenration of Cell is the case.
 
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Quality is lagghable reason.In that case Sasuke will stomp hyuga's without Sharingan
The chakra points are present on specific spots of body and Self regenration Cell is the case.

This should be obvious, rofl.

Tsunade is a descendant of Hashirama ( Senju ) and Mito ( Uzumaki ) so her chakra has 'quality' yet I'm not using it as an evidence to prove my point.
 

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hm.. idk about this matter.

Naruto was able to still use chakra after he got 64 palm'd due to kurama. Not so sure if tsunade's regeneration can heal her chakra points doubt it.
 

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hm.. idk about this matter.

Naruto was able to still use chakra after he got 64 palm'd due to kurama. Not so sure if tsunade's regeneration can heal her chakra points doubt it.

It can heal it because the tenketsu points are part of her body, therefore they are build up from cells. The Byakugou is a cellular level regeneration.
 

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Dude read it.
U r clearing ignoring what cell regenration is and chakra points r specific points on body thus will cosist of cells.
Basing everything on fact Quality chakra required will be laghable as anyone will litrally stomp powerfull hyuga's on basis of fact even kid has powefull chakra.
Talking about bijuus chakra it can be eaily suppresed of released in small amount[not even one tail mode].
 

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It can heal it because the tenketsu points are part of her body, therefore they are build up from cells. The Byakugou is a cellular level regeneration.

Her regeneration takes chakra to use does it not unless im mistaken? How can she regenerate if the chakra source which enables her to regenerate is blocked!?!?
 

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It can heal it because the tenketsu points are part of her body, therefore they are build up from cells. The Byakugou is a cellular level regeneration.

chakra arent made of up cells so you have no proof that the holes are made up of cells. it could just be a metaphorical hole and not a literal hole in the body.
 
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chakra arent made of up cells so you have no proof that the holes are made up of cells

Chakra Points.
Specific points located in body.
and what is CELL.Basic unit i think
 
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Her regeneration takes chakra to use does it not unless im mistaken? How can she regenerate if the chakra source which enables her to regenerate is blocked!?!?

And how exactly can Neji block the source of her chakra aka the an S rank seal?
 

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chakra arent made of up cells so you have no proof that the holes are made up of cells. it could just be a metaphorical hole and not a literal hole in the body.

But the chakra points are and the gentle fist is damaging them, not the chakra itself.
 
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