Best Space/Time Tech in Naruto

[Monkey King Enma]

Its Kamui. With both eyes you get offense and defense. The others are just faster, but Kamui is overall better. Not to mention there is still the true power of Obito's eyes, which we will see when he wakes up and uses them both to fight.

Agreed. That's not what I thought when I first created the thread but that's where I'm leaning towards now. Kamui is crazy lol

Side question: what's the difference between Minato's and Tobirama's FTG techs? Speed/distance/potency/etc???

 

[KidGamer65]

Agreed. That's not what I thought when I first created the thread but that's where I'm leaning towards now. Kamui is crazy lol

Side question: what's the difference between Minato's and Tobirama's FTG techs? Speed/distance/potency/etc???

There is no difference between Minato and Tobirama's jutsu.

 

[Dãrth1]

Obito
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And that Nagato face

 

[Minator93]

There is no difference between Minato and Tobirama's jutsu.

1. Minato can teleport more people than Tobirama.
2. Minato can use Level 3 whereas Tobirama's only shown Level 2.
3. Minato's tech is bit faster than Tobirama's when used by the Kage Bunshin.
4. Minato has the S/T barrier which if we go by manga evidence Tobirama doesn't have U_U

And most importantly:

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[Monkey King Enma]

I disagree. Sasuke can teleport his weapon right into your body, in fact he can teleport his enemies themselves into desirable location. IMO the abilities of his techniques are just too haxed.

You know what, Ima have to re-read the chapters where he showcases his abilities. Cuz when I first read it I don't remember being impressed, just more so confused. Because you're not the first on this thread who highly praised his tech.

There is no difference between Minato and Tobirama's jutsu.

You sure bro? I'm positive people usually make the case that Minato's jutsu is better. Maybe due to more feats or just sheer favoritism?

 

[KidGamer65]

You sure bro? I'm positive people usually make the case that Minato's jutsu is better. Maybe due to more feats or just sheer favoritism?

Probably a combination of both. The only thing that would make a difference is how well they use it, but that is a difference between them, not the jutsu itself.

 

[Monkey King Enma]

Probably a combination of both. The only thing that would make a difference is how well they use it, but that is a difference between them, not the jutsu itself.

That could be true! Ima read Minator's thread comparing the two so I can check out opposing views. Then I'll come to a conclusion

 

[KidGamer65]

1. Minato can teleport more people than Tobirama.
2. Minato can use Level 3 whereas Tobirama's only shown Level 2.
3. Minato's tech is bit faster than Tobirama's when used by the Kage Bunshin.
4. Minato has the S/T barrier which if we go by manga evidence Tobirama doesn't have U_U

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1. Less chakra than KCM Minato, who teleported the whole alliance.

2. There is no level 3 or even a level 2. Its all the same thing.

3. No, its not. The only thing that would make a difference is how fast they use the jutsu.

4. That's not Hiraishin.

Lol. Tobirama's radius is the same. Teleporting behind Obito is the best move as doing it in front of him will only get them killed, and once Obito started to guard his back, the same applied.

Third Difference: Tobirama can't teleport people to different marking or maybe altogether!

There is no proof of this.

Fourth Difference: Necessity of Physical contact for Tobirama

No proof of this either. He didn't do it cause he had no chakra link established.

Fifth Difference: Tobirama's FTG usage with the clone is slower than Minato's

And once again, there is no proof of this. Using it via clones was too slow, but that was against Juubito. Minato's clone teleported to a injured, vulnerable Obito. Nor did he even show that he was impressed, he simply wondered how he teleported to him, and deduced that he used Hiraishin, and that he had marked him before.

 

[HiddenSound]

Obito or Sasuke

 

[Minator93]

1. Less chakra than KCM Minato, who teleported the whole alliance.

2. There is no level 3 or even a level 2. Its all the same thing.

3. No, its not. The only thing that would make a difference is how fast they use the jutsu.

4. That's not Hiraishin.

Lol. Tobirama's radius is the same. Teleporting behind Obito is the best move as doing it in front of him will only get them killed, and once Obito started to guard his back, the same applied.


There is no proof of this.

No proof of this either. He didn't do it cause he had no chakra link established.

And once again, there is no proof of this. Using it via clones was too slow, but that was against Juubito. Minato's clone teleported to a injured, vulnerable Obito. Nor did he even show that he was impressed, he simply wondered how he teleported to him, and deduced that he used Hiraishin, and that he had marked him before.

Such a glutton for punishment you are Lol

1. Not at all, Tobirama himself said that he can't teleport so many people at once! And it's not chakra based either, Tobirama teleported two Kurama's no problem and the SA had part of Kurama's chakra U_U

2. You maggot Minato clearly said that there's a Level 2 i.e. teleporting to a moving marking, I'll elaborate:

Level1- Teleporting to a stationary marking
Level2 - Teleporting to a moving marking
Level3- Unknown at this point but Minato's Long Name Jutsu has the Hiraishin Level3

3. Tobirama himself confirmed his Hiraishin is slower via clones whereas Minato Hiraishin with clones is just the same as it's with the original

4. Tobirama has no radius as in he can't get around his mark. He marked Obito's back and he always teleported to the back. Whereas Minato marked Obito's back but he's teleported to Obito's front U_U

5. Tobirama's words > Yours Lol

6. That was old thread, I was wrong about this point

7. Explained above U_U

 

[Turson]

You know what, Ima have to re-read the chapters where he showcases his abilities. Cuz when I first read it I don't remember being impressed, just more so confused. Because you're not the first on this thread who highly praised his tech.

I can help you with that.

Sasuke teleporting his sword right into Madaras body. ->

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Sasuke teleporting his enemies to desirable location. ->

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[KidGamer65]

Such a glutton for punishment you are Lol

1. Not at all, Tobirama himself said that he can't teleport so many people at once! And it's not chakra based either, Tobirama teleported two Kurama's no problem and the SA had part of Kurama's chakra U_U

That's irrelevant. Teleporting two Bijuu sized objects doesn't mean that he can teleport the whole of the Shinobi alliance. Its the size of the teleported objects in total that take up chakra.

2. You maggot Minato clearly said that there's a Level 2 i.e. teleporting to a moving marking, I'll elaborate:

Level1- Teleporting to a stationary marking
Level2 - Teleporting to a moving marking
Level3- Unknown at this point but Minato's Long Name Jutsu has the Hiraishin Level3

That long name jutsu isn't "Hiraishin level 3" You don't even know if its solely a Hiraishin technique. You don't even know what it is.

3. Tobirama himself confirmed his Hiraishin is slower via clones whereas Minato Hiraishin with clones is just the same as it's with the original

Wrong. When he said it was slow with clones, he was talking about BOTH of them. He was talking TO Minato when he said that, that's why they used their real bodies.

4. Tobirama has no radius as in he can't get around his mark. He marked Obito's back and he always teleported to the back. Whereas Minato marked Obito's back but he's teleported to Obito's front U_U

He's always teleported to the back because teleporting to the front of a Juubi Jin will get you killed pretty easily. Minato didn't have to worry about that as Obito wasn't a Jin all those times he teleported to his front.

5. Tobirama's words > Yours Lol

Tobirama said nothing that favors your argument. He simply said that he'd get annihilated if he teleported to Obito's back, does that mean he can do it? Yes, otherwise that monologue never would have happened.

 

[Minator93]

That's irrelevant. Teleporting two Bijuu sized objects doesn't mean that he can teleport the whole of the Shinobi alliance. Its the size of the teleported objects in total that take up chakra.

Not really, had that been the case Tobirama given how he is would've said something about this happening because of Kyuubi's chakra, don't go out of context, Tobirama was saying this to base Minato who had given his chakra to Naruto, I'll elborate

This teleporting multiple people is done via chakra link, the better/bigger the chakra link the more is the number of people teleported, Minato's ability as Kyuubi said was that he could match anyone's chakra [same ability as Naruto's] which means that Minato can form and maintain his chakra link with large number of people whereas Tobirama has limitations because he's simply not as skilled as Minato U_U

That long name jutsu isn't "Hiraishin level 3" You don't even know if its solely a Hiraishin technique. You don't even know what it is.

The name of that jutsu has "Hiraishin Level 3" and those are Minato's words not mine U_U

Wrong. When he said it was slow with clones, he was talking about BOTH of them. He was talking TO Minato when he said that, that's why they used their real bodies.

Not at all, he was speaking for himself, in-fact he was surprised to see Minato's Kage Bunshin cutting Obito so fast!

He's always teleported to the back because teleporting to the front of a Juubi Jin will get you killed pretty easily. Minato didn't have to worry about that as Obito wasn't a Jin all those times he teleported to his front.

Tobirama despite knowing that his teleporting to the back has become predictable went to back instead of his front, what to that tell us? He can't go around the marking.

Tobirama said nothing that favors your argument. He simply said that he'd get annihilated if he teleported to Obito's back, does that mean he can do it? Yes, otherwise that monologue never would have happened.

And yet he teleported to his back again U_U

 

[King Of Pop]

offensive wise in range?kamui and sasuke jutsu>>>others. it works without seals and its faster than kamui but kamuis offense is dope as it can snipe you from afar. like pit sasuke against tobirama or minato without prep, they are blized before they can mark or use kunai. sasukes jutsu leaves no window of opportunity and it doesnt help that his base speed and reactions have increased. it can also teleport people to his attack. it has a range hence its weakness, so ftg and kamui are better in that regard. defensive ill take kamui tho, i like kamui a lot.

 

[Yocolaw]

Minato's.

It's so fast that it makes Gai's 8th gated speed look slow, you doesn't require any handseals (since minato did it without arms), and it can warp not only people, but attacks in motion back at the attacker.

Kamui would have been debatable if it didn't detereorate the user's eyesight and considerably drain the user's chakra/stamina unless they have hashirama's cells.


Sasuke's by hype, should be the best though since it's not even an MS or rinnegan, but a sharinnegan technique.



I fail to see how Obito would fair any better in the same situation. In fact, I fail to see how Obito would even warp something as big as the kyuubi's bijuudama that minato warped considering he's never been able to do so before.

minato teleported gay was running on air

 

[Benjamin King]

I would take Kamui of Kakashi's and Obito's.

-Infinite range
-No handseal
-Instant defence
-Instant attack​

 

[Monkey King Enma]

I can help you with that.

Sasuke teleporting his sword right into Madaras body. ->

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Sasuke teleporting his enemies to desirable location. ->

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Thanks Bruh however I'm still not entirely convinced how powerful his jutsu is yet. At least not til it's further explained. The feats he had in the chapter were beast but they're open up for interpretation.

Did he teleport Madara in between them? Or did he teleport them to Madara?

Did he teleport his sword into Madara? Or did he simply stab the shadow, and when they merged, the real Madara was impaled as well?

Idk bro, his jutsu is definitely a force to be reckoned with, but it's potency won't be fully understood til his tech is explained

 

[cafe123]

Sasuke has the most powerful S/T technique in all of Naruto.

 

[Monkey King Enma]

I would take Kamui of Kakashi's and Obito's.

-Infinite range
-No handseal
-Instant defence
-Instant attack​

Combine the two- Double Kamui lol gg.

Sasuke has the most powerful S/T technique in all of Naruto.

Ahhhh! I don't want to sound like a Sauce hater! I'm just not yet convinced it trumps the other S/T techs we've seen so far!

 

[lucario14]

Sasuke's for combat. He doesn't need seals/markings and can use it on himself or opponents although within a range.

For practical purposes, Defensive kamui is the best as it has no range, spammed at will, access to your own dimension + transportation device and can be used offensively when making contact with your opponent and defensively to evade any attack.