A whole lot of plot holes in the naruto manga

[YOUNGGUNNO]

1st. How did Madara use izanagi, without have the required senju DNA at that time?
2nd. If Madara's right sharingan had lost it's light how was he able to not only awaken the rinnegan in both eyes, but we did we not see him with both sharingan when he fought the against alliance?
3rd. I thought EMS was eternal, never to lose its light again?​

These last few chapters kishi seems to be pulling things out of thin air, and in doing so, he's creating so many plot holes, I truly feel like Madara is a better villain the she is, after all this time we found out that Madara was the one to put everything into play, then all of the sudden, black zetsu was controlling everything behind the scenes,
REALLY! black zestu? It just seems too "out of the blue" for me. :eww:

If Kaguya was going to be the final villain, we should've had some indication before black zetsu just stabbed the main villan, or so we thought, in the chest out of nowhere, and the way Madara went out was just a horrible way for someone of his importance to go out, I really hope Madara isn't dead, Because no matter what he's still my favorite character, and is the whole reason I started liking naruto in the first place, way back when naruto, and sasuke were standing on his head, at the final valley. =D​

 

[babajara0102]

You got a lot o things wrong,read manga carefully

 

[BlacLord™]

1st. How did Madara use izanagi, without have the required senju DNA at that time?
2nd. If Madara's right sharingan had lost it's light how was he able to not only awaken the rinnegan in both eyes, but we did we not see him with both sharingan when he fought the against alliance?
3rd. I thought EMS was eternal, never to lose its light again?​

These last few chapters kishi seems to be pulling things out of thin air, and in doing so, he's creating so many plot holes, I truly feel like Madara is a better villain the she is, after all this time we found out that Madara was the one to put everything into play, then all of the sudden, black zetsu was controlling everything behind the scenes,
REALLY! black zestu? It just seems too "out of the blue" for me. :eww:

If Kaguya was going to be the final villain, we should've had some indication before black zetsu just stabbed the main villan, or so we thought, in the chest out of nowhere, and the way Madara went out was just a horrible way for someone of his importance to go out, I really hope Madara isn't dead, Because no matter what he's still my favorite character, and is the whole reason I started liking naruto in the first place, way back when naruto, and sasuke were standing on his head, at the final valley. =D​

1) Did you miss the panel where Madara bit into Hashirama's arm?
2) He either replaced the Sharingan with another, or re-wrote reality upon awakening one Rinnegan to insert the other.
3) That only applies when using Mangekyou techniques, not normal Sharingan kinjutsu.

 

[Ashura San]

2. Loss of sight doesn't mean it's not an uchiha eye. Itachi went blind during his fight w/ sasuke and was still about to use his susano'o. Although the loss in sight were completely different between the two, like I stated earlier, it's still his eyes with the same genes/genetic code so when hashi's cells finally kicked in the rinnegan awakened in both eyes, healing the one that had lost it's sight. Madara could've been blind in the one point up until the rinnegan awakened.

Don't ask me about 1. Or 3. I'm still thinking on those lol

 

[Uchiha Samater]

1. We know that when Itachi explained Izanami to Sasuke, he happened to mention why the Izanami was created. It was because the Uchiha folks back then, used Izanagi for all wrong reasons. And most of those Uchiha certainly did not have the Senju DNA.

Danzo used senju Dna to help him manage the Uchiha Sharingan and make the Izanagi last as long as possible

Obito was half senju due to his accident.


2. Madara's eye went dull, and then transformed into the Rinnegan due to the awakening, in literally 2 pages, in today's chapter no less.
Like right there to see.

3. EMS is eternal in the terms of over usage does not affect it, the sacrificing of one eye is a different thing altogether


i will let you have the fun of finding the scans

 

[ekichi onizuka]

people just need to read the manga carefully instead of calling everything a plote hole. Instead of always making the same threads

 

[Tobi98]

Funny cuz you're wrong about everything

 

[saw2097]

All three of those points are dead wrong.

Itachi said that the Uchiha clan used Izanagi all the time, it was one of the things that made the clan so arrogant.

 

[YOUNGGUNNO]

All three of those points are dead wrong.

Itachi said that the Uchiha clan used Izanagi all the time, it was one of the things that made the clan so arrogant.

I'm not talking about dumb fillers that make no sense, also they're not considered canon. Also everything in the last few chapters are whats making all the plot holes, did you guys not read what I said!

 

[YOUNGGUNNO]

2. Loss of sight doesn't mean it's not an uchiha eye. Itachi went blind during his fight w/ sasuke and was still about to use his susano'o. Although the loss in sight were completely different between the two, like I stated earlier, it's still his eyes with the same genes/genetic code so when hashi's cells finally kicked in the rinnegan awakened in both eyes, healing the one that had lost it's sight. Madara could've been blind in the one point up until the rinnegan awakened.

Don't ask me about 1. Or 3. I'm still thinking on those lol

Being that's it's an Uchiha eye doesn't mean anything, unless it's has awaken the sharingan, because their ocular powers rely on the sharingan which is why they can't use them until they awaken it, an eye that has not yet awaken the sharingan, is useless until it does, even thought its still an "Uchiha eye" so when Madara lost that eye it should've been rendered useless, like his original eyes were

also you and I are both from michigan, finally I know I'm not the only naruto fan in the state! YESS!!

 

[I Don]

Another "GENIUS" claiming that he found plotholes *sigh* and yet all he did is rant about things he didn't want to happen...

 

[ShinjuMadara]

Here's a solution:

They're all in IT and none of this is actually happening..., Madara already won

 

[dewooder123]

1st. How did Madara use izanagi, without have the required senju DNA at that time?
2nd. If Madara's right sharingan had lost it's light how was he able to not only awaken the rinnegan in both eyes, but we did we not see him with both sharingan when he fought the against alliance?
3rd. I thought EMS was eternal, never to lose its light again?​

These last few chapters kishi seems to be pulling things out of thin air, and in doing so, he's creating so many plot holes, I truly feel like Madara is a better villain the she is, after all this time we found out that Madara was the one to put everything into play, then all of the sudden, black zetsu was controlling everything behind the scenes,
REALLY! black zestu? It just seems too "out of the blue" for me. :eww:

If Kaguya was going to be the final villain, we should've had some indication before black zetsu just stabbed the main villan, or so we thought, in the chest out of nowhere, and the way Madara went out was just a horrible way for someone of his importance to go out, I really hope Madara isn't dead, Because no matter what he's still my favorite character, and is the whole reason I started liking naruto in the first place, way back when naruto, and sasuke were standing on his head, at the final valley. =D​

I don't think Itachi has even smelled Senju DNA but he still used Izanami

 

[sLm]

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I'm going to believe Madara was able to use it because he ate flesh from Hashirama. But I wouldn't define that as "having the power of Senju". He just ate a piece of flesh. But it's the best explanation we can have right now for Madara using Izanagi. Too many plot holes today.

 

[Ohhdang]

I'm not talking about dumb fillers that make no sense, also they're not considered canon. Also everything in the last few chapters are whats making all the plot holes, did you guys not read what I said!

Not only are you absolutely stupid when it comes to teh questions in your thread, but also this statement you just made is stupid. Fillers are not cannon? So what? Do you really think Kishi would allow animators and the studios to just recreate his story, especially extremely important flashbacks that rounds out the entire story? You and everyone else who believes that is stupid, to sit up here and say "fillers aren't cannon" thinking Kishi wouldn't play a role in how those fillers are told and put together. Even if he is a damn consultant, he has a huge role in how these fillers play out.

 

[HouKage]

Where is it stated you need Senju DNA to use izanagi?
I don't think that is true. Mainly because it is evidently used before and often enough for Itachi to know all about it.

 

[sexywave]

izanagi never needed senju dna to be used.

 

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uchia been using thats why izanami was made to stop arrogance in there use.

 

[Whiteknight]

1st. How did Madara use izanagi, without have the required senju DNA at that time?
2nd. If Madara's right sharingan had lost it's light how was he able to not only awaken the rinnegan in both eyes, but we did we not see him with both sharingan when he fought the against alliance?
3rd. I thought EMS was eternal, never to lose its light again?​

These last few chapters kishi seems to be pulling things out of thin air, and in doing so, he's creating so many plot holes, I truly feel like Madara is a better villain the she is, after all this time we found out that Madara was the one to put everything into play, then all of the sudden, black zetsu was controlling everything behind the scenes,
REALLY! black zestu? It just seems too "out of the blue" for me. :eww:

If Kaguya was going to be the final villain, we should've had some indication before black zetsu just stabbed the main villan, or so we thought, in the chest out of nowhere, and the way Madara went out was just a horrible way for someone of his importance to go out, I really hope Madara isn't dead, Because no matter what he's still my favorite character, and is the whole reason I started liking naruto in the first place, way back when naruto, and sasuke were standing on his head, at the final valley. =D​

1. You do not need Senju DNA to use it. You need Senju DNA to lengthen the time it is active. To go from being Dead to Not Dead, Madara only needs the technique active for an instant.

2. This is a big mystery. I *think* that awakening the rinnegan brings back eyes that were lost to Izanagi, because the super-duper healing power of the Sage does something. I don't think we are going to get an explanation to this before the manga ends. We just need to accept it.

3. EMS doesn't lose its light to over-use, the way MS does. Nobody ever said that EMS would be immune to the side-effects of Izanagi (or Izanami).

 

[Vishnurajendran]

1. That is not entirely correct, izanagi can be used without the senju DNA...we can see that, when Itachi was explaining about izanami to sasuke.
3. yes EMS is eternal and will never lose its light again by overusing it but will Lose it's light if you use izanagi .