Establishing why tsunade is on par with previous hokage .

[Rainbow Dash]

She is the weakest and za warusto.

 

[-Punk-]

i never said she is the strongest hokage . I said her feats are on par with the previous hokage

Her feats ? No it's painfully obvious that she is not on pair with them ..............When it comes to leadership & politics , she is one of the best Imo .

 

[bencoby]

The first part of the post is false, but the second part had some little bit of truth. That being said, for the points you made does bot put her on par with the previous hokages. The only one she comes close to is The third though.

 

[blackstar9]

No she is the weakest .

Her feats ? No it's painfully obvious that she is not on pair with them ..............When it comes to leadership & politics , she is one of the best Imo .

yes her feats ! did you read the thread ? She was credited with winning the 2nd war . created a medical sytem copied by the ninja world etc etc

The first part of the post is false, but the second part had some little bit of truth. That being said, for the points you made does bot put her on par with the previous hokages. The only one she comes close to is The third though.

prove its false .

 

[blackstar9]

gotta g o be back to finish debating soon

 

[-Punk-]

yes her feats ! did you read the thread ? She was credited with winning the 2nd war . created a medical sytem copied by the ninja world etc etc

Yes I read it , I don't agree with it .

Agree to disagree then .

 

[bencoby]

yes her feats ! did you read the thread ? She was credited with winning the 2nd war . created a medical sytem copied by the ninja world etc etc

prove its false .

Minato single handely lead Konoha to victory, while her contribution to the third ninja war was a little more than a peck of dust in the water.
Moreover you said she convince Raikage to let Naruto and Bee go to war, how is that a great contribution to war compared to what Minato did in war?. True saved the kages with medical jutsu and thats her specillity at the end of the day.

 

[MinaButt]

She really does deserve more credit as a political leader tho.

 

[blackstar9]

Yes I read it , I don't agree with it . i posted all manga facts

Agree to disagree then .

Minato single handely lead Konoha to victory, while her contribution to the third ninja war was a little more than a peck of dust in the water. re read teh manga . she was the biggest reason leaf won 2nd war
Moreover you said she convince Raikage to let Naruto and Bee go to war, how is that a great contribution to war compared to what Minato did in war?. True saved the kages with medical jutsu and thats her specillity at the end of the day.

minato got credit for being main reason leaf won that war . Tsunade was credited for being main reason leaf won second war . manga facts

She really does deserve more credit as a political leader tho.

She deserves credit for more then her leadership . she changed the shinobi world with her medical system , and was credited as the main reason leaf won the 2nd war !

 

[RicardoA]

Not enough paragraphs for me to read that all. Had to skim through it.
Also, too many random points without actually comparing her with the previous Hokages.

OT: I respectfully disagree. She's hardly on par with anything compared to her fellow Konoha leaders.
In combat she's inferior, but when it comes to political issues and competence as a leader she's actually better than any of them.

 

[blackstar9]

Not enough paragraphs for me to read that all. Had to skim through it.
Also, too many random points without actually comparing her with the previous Hokages.

OT: I respectfully disagree. She's hardly on par with anything compared to her fellow Konoha leaders.
In combat she's inferior, but when it comes to political issues and competence as a leader she's actually better than any of them.

i disagree with you . I compared her to minato getting credit for being the same reason leaf won a war . she was credited for winning 2nd war . I compared her to tobirama for changing the ninja world with a system she created . In combat neither minato , tobirama , or hiruzen got an arsenal that can kill her ! i compared her healing tech to hashirama . read whole o.p. before commenting . or else you dont know what your talking about

 

[The Work]

Lol no. She couldn't even mess with Pain. Only thing thats saving her is that regeneration jutsu.

 

[Itachi4life]

Prime Hiruzen>Hashirama>Bm Minato>Tobirama>Minato (without BM)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Foddernade.

 

[blackstar9]

Lol no. She couldn't even mess with Pain. Only thing thats saving her is that regeneration jutsu.

she couldnt mess with pein ? but minato , tobirama, and hiruzen can beat pein ? I know for sure they couldnt save a village from almighty push !

 

[blackstar9]

Prime Hiruzen>Hashirama>Bm Minato>Tobirama>Minato (without BM)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Foddernade.

prime hiruzen ? prime hiruzen has no feats !!

 

[Sage konohamaru]

I agree she is on the par with the remaining hokage in terms of ruling the village and sadly she is the weakest when it comes to combat,what do you expect,she is a woman afterall.no woman can beat those hokages.and dont mention kaguya,she's not human

 

[Itachi4life]

prime hiruzen ? prime hiruzen has no feats !!

You clearly don't get the joke.
Hashirama>BmMinato>Tobirama>Minato>oldHiruzen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Foddernade

 

[blackstar9]

I agree she is on the par with the remaining hokage in terms of ruling the village and sadly she is the weakest when it comes to combat,what do you expect,she is a woman afterall.no woman can beat those hokages.and dont mention kaguya,she's not human

She can hold her own with most ninja in combat . She has one shot kill power , Can regenerate any organ or body part , has big chakra pool and a senju and uzumaki bloodline . Most people dont like her cause she isnt flashy . and is a woman ! but i dont care about their gender . A badass ninja is a badass ninja to me regardless of ***

 

[RicardoA]

i disagree with you . I compared her to minato getting credit for being the same reason leaf won a war . she was credited for winning 2nd war . I compared her to tobirama for changing the ninja world with a system she created . In combat neither minato , tobirama , or hiruzen got an arsenal that can kill her ! i compared her healing tech to hashirama . read whole o.p. before commenting . or else you dont know what your talking about

I didn't type that you didn't compared her at all, i typed that you made several statements that are irrelevant (ex: basically the listing of her abilities. How does that tell the reader she's on par? Especially when the other Hokage's abilities are hardly mentioned?)

In combat she's close (and i use the term "close" very lightly because i know there's much more to her than simple punches, kicks and healing) to being a one trick pony and has way less options compared to any other Hokage. She's not even a combat oriented shinobi.
The fact that she's able to put up a kage level fight and (theoretically) win against some kage level opponents on her own is surprising by itself. But from there to be 'Hokage level' goes a certain distance.
The only one who can't kill her is Hiruzen and that's because he's old and can't afford to spam jutsus. She wouldn't stand much of a chance against Minato or Tobirama, and Madara already made clear where not only her, but the Gokage combined stand, compared to Hashirama.

 

[blackstar9]

I didn't type that you didn't compared her at all, i typed that you made several statements that are irrelevant (ex: basically the listing of her abilities. How does that tell the reader she's on par? Especially when the other Hokage's abilities are hardly mentioned?)

In combat she's close (and i use the term "close" very lightly because i know there's much more to her than simple punches, kicks and healing) to being a one trick pony and has way less options compared to any other Hokage. She's not even a combat oriented shinobi.
The fact that she's able to put up a kage level fight and (theoretically) win against some kage level opponents on her own is surprising by itself. But from there to be 'Hokage level' goes a certain distance.
The only one who can't kill her is Hiruzen and that's because he's old and can't afford to spam jutsus. She wouldn't stand much of a chance against Minato or Tobirama, and Madara already made clear where not only her, but the Gokage combined stand compared to Hashirama.

also i didnt compare her to hashirama in combat . cause only a few god tier people have a chance against him

Is she mainly close range yes . But so what there are alot of ninja that are long range fighters , mid range etc . That doesnt make them weak . Just depends who can impose there style of fighting on the oppanant . She has ways to close the gap on enemies . She has evasion skills , She has a summon that spits acid , she can make your body malfunction like she did to kabuto . Once again she is super strong , and can tank almost any attack. Has years of fighting experience . As far as tobirama , minato , and hiruzen . Nothing in their arsenal can kill her . But if she lands a single blow she can kill them . So almost every fighter has a weakness . Long range fighters , mid range and short . Her bloodline give her an advantage in battle as well . Being senju and uzumaki makes her dam near impossible to put down . She got life force , chakra endurance for days !!