Manga Proof: Why Hiraishin didn't work against Madara and Sasuke's tech worked!!

[Bronze]

I have established it:

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After reading the latest chapter, it appears Rinnegan is making Sasuke teleport in small areas. Quite similar to Shisui's Shunshin. However, Madara did react to his jutsu and could have stopped it if he needed to. Take a look at this:

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If you look in the panel, you can see Madara is thinking inside his head, while Sasuke is using his teleportation. This would imply Madara could have stopped Sasuke. The only reason he didn't, is he didn't have to.

• He was too focused on getting his rinnegan
• He has regeneration, so cutting him in half wont help

I can imagine Sasuke having his teleportation would help him keeping up in foot against Naruto's speed.

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The only actual reason is Madara was not bothered by it. Sasuke tried blitz him afterwards, but

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[Dãrth1]

Seems legit

 

[Minator93]

if sasuke could see limbo he can see RDS plus he can fly he teleports a rock into minato's brain not to mention he has ninshuu a way to connect or touch souls

See RDS? Teleport rock into his brain tell me more Lol

Nice work

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Thanks

Agree to a a degree. Jubidara was full of himself after becoming the Jinnchuriki and didn't care all about the hits he took. He had to put an eye on Tobirama since he was the only one in the past who had the ability to deduce his trickery. Naruto and Sasuke had the perfect moment to attack him after becoming the Jinchuriki and they were the perfect counters for him. Although it shouldn't be overlooked that when Tobirama attacked Madara had just gotten Sage mode from Hashirama and could sense everyone's chakra, Tobirama suddenly disappearing and coming for him would be the first thing he'd notice and he had to take care of his body minutes after being revived.

But still even a weakened one eyed Juubidara is way stronger than most of them except current Naruto and Sasuke.

I see.

I agree...

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wait people saying he used limbo against tobirama im going to need a scan

Re-read the manga U_U

not manga facts just trying to be a good troll

So when you can't prove someone with the mangafacts wrong you resort to name calling? Lel thie guy Lol

 

[take it easy]

i like your threads minator.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Could you give me a proof of madara using limbo against tobirama? There is no evidence supporting madara used limbo

 

[xxSAGExx]

The reason why Sasuke's Tech worked against Madara and Hiraishin failed is simple, "Limbo, Onmyoudon, Intel and Lack of Intel"

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Let's go with Hiraishin first,

As seen in this scan, Tobirama was actually a nano-second away from ending this war and being hailed as the Greatest Legend of all time, despite Madara having Full info on Tobirama's Hiraishin no jutsu.

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Madara is at a full stretch and can't really do anything, he was going to be killed had it not been the "Limbo" a technique you can't see or sense without Hagoromo's power.

And in Minato's case Madara had already

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he knew what was to happen given the fact that he know's about Minato's Hiraishin no Jutsu as well. There's also a slight chance of Limbo being used on Minato as well but no solid proof has been seen so lets say Limbo wasn't used. However due to Onmyoudon Minato was forced to go with a Senpou Rasengan another predictable move instead of other flashy moves he has.

And as you mentioned this was because Madara wasn't marked, if he was then he'd get attacked by the Hiraishin user no doubt.

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Now for Sasuke,

First of all he faced a much weaker version of Madara, a Madara who didn't have Onmyoudon, his Rikudou Staff or the usual "know it all" advantage U_U

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Madara didn't have any Intel [the most important thing in beating any technique]. Madara didn't have any Onmyoudon to shield himself because Minato, Gai and Kakashi have already taken most of that power away. And most importantly Naruto had taken care of the Limbo.

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Had Naruto taken care of Limbo in Tobirama's case then Tobirama would've been that Legend. And of Onmyoudon in Minato's case then the outcome wouldn't have been the same.

And this is after not taking the fearful mindset Madara had against Naruto+Sasuke than the fearless mindset he had against Tobirama or Minato in consideration.

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So as proven, due to Naruto and the "power-down" by Minato himself Sasuke's technique worked against Madara whilst Hiraishin didn't [because there was no powered down Madara and no presence of Naruto to nullify the Limbo+Onmyoudon U_U]

Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers

You left out an important fact, Tobirama and Minato are edo's and are weaker than they are when they were alive. Madara speed after being revived is greater than that of when he was Edo tensei so going back ans seeing him blitz Naruto and Sai while watching him as edo against the kages and when he fought BM Naruto/Gai/Bee/Kakashi with Obito shows us the differences in his speed. When he pin Tobirama down, he even said there's a reason why he can't use his true strength

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[Bronze]

You left out an important fact, Tobirama and Minato are edo's and are weaker than they are when they were alive. Madara speed after being revived is greater than that of when he was Edo tensei so going back ans seeing him blitz Naruto and Sai while watching him as edo against the kages and when he fought BM Naruto/Gai/Bee/Kakashi with Obito shows us the differences in his speed. When he pin Tobirama down, he even said there's a reason why he can't use his true strength

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Power isn't speed, lmao. Not to mention, FTG is instant. Nothing gets faster than instant.​

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

As always, you provide logical and substantiated evidences to back your thesis up, good job.

 

[minatoisagod]

You sir are the real Professor of the leaf i salute you.

 

[Minator93]

i like your threads minator.

Thanks Spacey

Are you stupid? Kakashi's skill/intellignece is the reason he's made it this far in the first place, without as much power as others.

Indeed.

Very ƒuckin Funny ....

Lel and you are?

Could you give me a proof of madara using limbo against tobirama? There is no evidence supporting madara used limbo

It's in the manga U_U

Nice thread, man.

Thanks

You left out an important fact, Tobirama and Minato are edo's and are weaker than they are when they were alive. Madara speed after being revived is greater than that of when he was Edo tensei so going back ans seeing him blitz Naruto and Sai while watching him as edo against the kages and when he fought BM Naruto/Gai/Bee/Kakashi with Obito shows us the differences in his speed. When he pin Tobirama down, he even said there's a reason why he can't use his true strength

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Agreed.

As always, you provide logical and substantiated evidences to back your thesis up, good job.

Thanks Sir Derp

You sir are the real Professor of the leaf i salute you.

Thanks

 

[Logical Chaos]

I'm pretty sure Madara didn't use Limbo against Minato.

 

[Minator93]

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[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

I have established it:



The only actual reason is Madara was not bothered by it. Sasuke tried blitz him afterwards, but

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I agree with this!!

 

[King Of Pop]

his limbo clone was sealed by naruto, tobirama got trolled by it

sasuke didnt have to face it, not having the correct technique to defend himself put him at disadvantage

where does it say tobirama got defeated by limbo?? their clash was off panel so how do you know it was limbo? that is baseless speculation not manga supported.

madara had his staff, same staff he used to cut minatos arm thereby stopping his assault, he could have used easily that. you guys are just giving excuses here

 

[FleeOnSight]

It's funny how no one else is coming with scans to back up their arguments. All I see is sauce this sauce that.

Great thread minator.

 

[King Of Pop]

I have established it:



The only actual reason is Madara was not bothered by it. Sasuke tried blitz him afterwards, but

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you didnt established anything. your argument was full of fanfic and was disproven.

2nd point fail. sasuke didnt try to bliz, he didnt use anything close to full speed, he simply jumped to attack madara but was pushed back by limbo

 

[Minator93]

where does it say tobirama got defeated by limbo?? their clash was off panel so how do you know it was limbo? that is baseless speculation not manga supported.

madara had his staff, same staff he used to cut minatos arm thereby stopping his assault, he could have used easily that. you guys are just giving excuses here

1. It's in the manga U_U

2. Madara didn't have his staff against Sasuke and Naruto U_U Gai destroyed the staff U_U

 

[Behemoth55]

The only actual reason is Madara was not bothered by it.

Lol Made my day. That's the reason why Madara defend himself against a punch of Naruto but if someone tries to cut him into pieces, he just couldn't care less. Your 'argument' Madara only wanted his Rinnegan back doesn't really match the seriousness of the situation. Madara even said he has to realise that Sasuke and Naruto aren't just some children.

 

[King Of Pop]

1. It's in the manga U_U

2. Madara didn't have his staff against Sasuke and Naruto U_U Gai destroyed the staff U_U

1 no its not. its just something you pulled out of your ass to conveniently support your point. what we saw was tobirama attacking, madara reacting, hitting the kunai out of tobiramas hand, then tobirama teleported to the kunai. next thing his ass was on the floor, thats it, no where did he say he used limbo.

2 now you are trolling

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whats that on madaras hand?? thats right his staff. that staff was used to fodderize minato, madara could have used it but sasuke was too fast.

basically your whole thread is excuses on why minato and tobirama failed supported by assumptions.

 

[End of Days]

sasuke vs someone who can actually defend himself

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says all, had madara had his onmyoudon orbs which provide

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protection, same would have happened