Honord Sage
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Kishi ones said He new the beginning and the end of Naruto, it was what He was going to put in the middle that He had to work on.
Kishimoto really thinks ahead.
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DoubleKamui
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Shadow Phantasm
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Not everything is planned ahead,things can and will change as the story goes on.Every writer does revisions of plot points several times in their career.
Shadow Phantasm
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What you two seem to be forgetting is that the ending to a story can and does change,ask the writer of Harry Potter about how the series originally was supposed to end for example.
The Invincible Ninja God
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hold on. are people using an 8 year old interview of Kishimoto saying he hasn't yet worked things out to prove that he still has things he hasn't planned.
after already having the ending set, he had eight years to plot this and work out details. Yet people still insist he is just making shit up? They are just butt-hurt thing didn't go there way.
Shadow Phantasm
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That tired line should die in a fire,if Kishi had everything planned out to the smallest detail then he would'nt have admitted to not knowing how to defeat Madara.
So no people aren't being butthurt about the manga going the way they want and fanboys need to stop saying that because it's BS.
The Invincible Ninja God
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What author spoils there manga by telling how they are going to end a major villain? He was joking maybe.
Calling people who can understand the manga fanboys because they aren't lost and saying everything is spontaneously made up is tired too, but it wont stop.
Shadow Phantasm
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No he was serious,Kishi said he had no idea on how to defeat Madara.So that is further proof that he's not some all knowing clairvoyant writer that some people here seem to believe.
And I hardly hear most people accuse Kishi of making sh*t up,but I've heard the "you're just mad because X did'nt go the way you wanted" line millions of times from people who try to dismiss criticism and complaints.Also claiming that you aren't lost with the story and understand the manga unlike those who criticizes it is arrogant and pompous as hell.
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The Invincible Ninja God
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You are not him so how can you be sure if he was serious and not just trying to build hype?
and I see many people accuse kishi of making sh*t up, despite the manga having hints to what they are complaining about in earlier chapters.
I already said the you are just mad thing is old. but if the shoe fits.
I'm not a saint, so i couldn't care less about being arrogant. I'm not going to be suppressed by someone else just because they can't understand or simply hate what is going on.
Shadow Phantasm
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Look at the previous chapters,Madara had to be taken out in a lame way and replaced with someone even more overpowered than he is.That does'nt look like Kishi was joking or building up hype.
Also how do you know people who criticize the manga don't understand or know what is going on?That's why I said you were arrogant.You're making a assumption that just because some people are criticizing something,it must mean they don't know anything about it.
And you're not being surpressed here so I don't know what is the deal with that.But you are making incorrect assumptions about people because you disagree with their opinions though.
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The Invincible Ninja God
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If he already had the Kaguya revives plot twist planned back then, would he tell the reader? that would be dumb. You are saying he replaced an undefeatable enemy with and even more undefeatable enemy. This leaves him exactly where he started. Is it so hard to believe the author knows what he is doing, that it is easier to believe he is a moron?
By building hype he made readers want to stick around to see how he would be beaten. he hooked them through anticipation
No, i make my deducts based on the things they say. not solely becuase they critisize.the people i'm referring to are the ones who complain about things coming out of nowhere when it is clearly explained in the manga. So, no, they don't understand or are just mad. Some of the even use things like it's to easy, to support there claims.
ain't that the pot calling the kettle black?
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kuramasage
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Kishi is able to and often does plan ahead really well. But, he does make things up as he goes. Otherwise, why would he have put so much effort into establishing Obito as Naruto's greatest enemy and have him become the Juubi Jin? But then have him defeated anti-climactically and rush Madara into becoming the new Final Villain? But then have Kaguya, a character only mentioned just over 20 chapters earlier, be revealed as the true villain and usurp Madara?
Itachi Edo
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With stories that run on a weekly basis you have to read them as a volume or you'll miss things. As a writer, I can see the techniques Kishi uses and to be frank he's been dumbing down his writing the past couple of years to make it obvious he's tying things together, because a good portion of people only read for fight scenes and skip the breadcrumbs he's dropped.
Some of the stuff that's been going on in recent chapters was foreshadowed all the way back in the second arc of the series.
Some of the stuff that's been going on in recent chapters was foreshadowed all the way back in the second arc of the series.
