Proof what Itachi and Kisame said about Jiraiya was BS!

[slaton02]

It was just an excuse for Kishi to not have a 12yr old boy captured by kage lvl shinobi. Want the proof.

1. Itachi says if they fight it would be a tie at best and backup wouldn't change the outcome.
This is obvious BS cause Jman ultimately lost vs Pain so backup would effect the outcome and how does Itachi know it would be a tie?

2. Kisame saying they pale in comparison going up against a legendary sannin and doubts they could win so didn't want to fight.
Kisame wanted to fight Orochimaru who is a sannin! Also in the databook kisame wished to fight ANYONE!

3. Does anyone supposed to believe Jman solos Kisame and Itachi at the same time let alone one on one?
Sorry it's not happening

4. Naruto was 12 if the akatsuki went after him he would be caught, Jiraiya isn't enough to change that.
Naruto would be there easiest capture back in pt 1. But the manga would end.

It's clear as day. Some say the were talking about Kyuubi but even so my point stands akatsuki would defeat it. Imho Itachi and Kisame defeat Jiraiya high diff 1on1 Theres nothing he has they can't counter. His ninjutsu us useless vs kisame and Itachi has the type of arsenal that matchup well vs jman. If Itachi loses it's because his stamina and if Kisame loses it because of some sealing trap but don't see it happening or know if he even has any strong ones. It's obviously plot, Itachi made Oro his play thing and Kisame solod Bee mid diff without even trying to kill but sh!t their pants at the sight of Jiraiya. By no means is this a bash towards Jiraiya.

 

[Conspirator.]

This was obvious.

 

[straightup]

ok if you want to use plot as an excuse then i say kishi made it plot to make jman more powerful then both of them even though they were "sooo strong" thats my take on his plot logic. Kishi needed someone super op to take care of naruto until he was old enough to take care of himself. then plot killed jman becuase he was no longer needed to take care of naruto

 

[Agumon]

We already know this Lol

 

[Tobi98]

Of course Itachi and Kisame would win and that was just an excuse to go away, but after it Itachi said he and Jiraya are equals and it's probably true

 

[straightup]

lok they went all the way across the country to capture a kid just to turn around. If they could have beaten him why turn around when naruto was right in their sight

 

[Gagster]

J-dawg > Itachi and Kisame at the same time. Manga fax.

 

[slaton02]

ok if you want to use plot as an excuse then i say kishi made it plot to make jman more powerful then both of them even though they were "sooo strong" thats my take on his plot logic. Kishi needed someone super op to take care of naruto until he was old enough to take care of himself. then plot killed jman becuase he was no longer needed to take care of naruto

But he wasn't based off what we saw from him. If he was I would not have made this well that and the fact Itachi said backup wouldn't help.

 

[straightup]

J-dawg > Itachi and Kisame at the same time. Manga fax.

this guy gets it

 

[Gerkak]

I agree. It was PNJ.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Yea the hole he was talking bout the nine tails fox thing was stupid cuz kisame clearly took out naruto nine tails fox chakara he was gathering in the hall way with ease.nine tails was not a problem back then.

An yea itachi did not want to take naruto just wanted to check on sasuke an what not.

 

[solo king]

Haters gona hate..your just feeding Marik btw

 

[BLAZE]

It's obvious imo

 

[straightup]

But he wasn't based off what we saw from him. If he was I would not have made this well that and the fact Itachi said backup wouldn't help.

name me one time he wasnt op? and try to be objective. every fight i can remember peopple didnt even want to fight him and when they did he smashed them. How many peins did jman take out? who else than naruto took out near as many as him? who else was ballsy enough to spar with the kyubi and beat him? if you say oro remember he didnt win, neither did pein

 

[ShiroShonen]

Obviously *_*

 

[SkyGodHorus]

It was just an excuse for Kishi to not have a 12yr old boy captured by kage lvl shinobi. Want the proof.

1. Itachi says if they fight it would be a tie at best and backup wouldn't change the outcome.
This is obvious BS cause Jman ultimately lost vs Pain so backup would effect the outcome and how does Itachi know it would be a tie?

2. Kisame saying they pale in comparison going up against a legendary sannin and doubts they could win so didn't want to fight.
Kisame wanted to fight Orochimaru who is a sannin! Also in the databook kisame wished to fight ANYONE!

3. Does anyone supposed to believe Jman solos Kisame and Itachi at the same time let alone one on one?
Sorry it's not happening

4. Naruto was 12 if the akatsuki went after him he would be caught, Jiraiya isn't enough to change that.
Naruto would be there easiest capture back in pt 1. But the manga would end.

It's clear as day. Some say the were talking about Kyuubi but even so my point stands akatsuki would defeat it. Imho Itachi and Kisame defeat Jiraiya high diff 1on1 Theres nothing he has they can't counter. His ninjutsu us useless vs kisame and Itachi has the type of arsenal that matchup well vs jman.

Jiraiya had the toad sages and all the might of the mt. myaboku toads warriors. His senjutsu would probably be able to resist Tsukuyomi since it's a large, outside source of chakra. He could also seal Amaterasu and captured Kisame with Iwagama. Itachi was also sick, going blind and the mangekyou techniques took a toll on his stamina. Kisame was also not near a large water source like he was on turtle island and I doubt samehada would be able to handle absorbing senjutsu. Finally, Jiraiya may also have been able to ensnare susano'o and Itachi in his swamp. Pein was a different matter because Jiraiya was out numbered by the six paths and did not know of all their existences or techniques. Kisame was one of the seven swordsman and Itachi was the Uchiha prodigy famous from the Anbu and killing the clan. He likely knew them well while the Rinnegan and Pains were a new territory.

If Itachi loses it's because his stamina and if Kisame loses it because of some sealing trap but don't see it happening or know if he even has any strong ones. It's obviously plot, Itachi made Oro his play thing and Kisame solod Bee mid diff without even trying to kill but sh!t their pants at the sight of Jiraiya. By no means is this a bash towards Jiraiya.

Orochimaru did not have access to all his jutsus in his second fight with Itachi. His hands were sealed.

 

[Obítō1]

New Fanfic Is Borned XD

 

[YellowFang]

On the other hand, I still believe Jiraiya would have taken them out individually...

 

[Its sasukebase]

name me one time he wasnt op? and try to be objective. every fight i can remember peopple didnt even want to fight him and when they did he smashed them. How many peins did jman take out? who else than naruto took out near as many as him? who else was ballsy enough to spar with the kyubi and beat him? if you say oro remember he didnt win, neither did pein

kurama messed him up when a sick oro was just playing around what him testing his power. guy could of beat all the pain so saying that is stupid.

ot: they were talking about the nine tail not jiriaya

 

[straightup]

Jiraiya had the toad sages and all the might of the mt myaboku toads. His senjutsu would probably be able to resist Tsukuyomi since it's a large, outside source of chakra. He could also seal Amaterasu and captured Kisame with Iwagama. Itachi was also sick, going blind and the mangekyou techniques took a toll on his stamina. Kisame was also not near a large water source like he was on turtle island and I doubt samehada would be able to handle absorbing senjutsu. Pein was a different matter because Jiraiya was out numbered by the six paths and did not know of all their existences or techniques. Kisame was one of the seven swordsman and Itachi was the Uchiha prodigy famous from the Anbu and killing the clan. He likely knew them well while the Rinnegan and Pains were a new territory.



Orochimaru did not have access to all his jutsus in his second fight with Itachi. His hands were sealed.

this guy right here straight up solod this thread. and all with manga fact