Sasuke is 1 septillion times faster

[Rizengan01]

Times when Naruto wasnt that fast are long gone.

Because of chakra.

Madara was able to turn around and praise Sasukes speed before being cut down. He exaclty knew what was happening and when he was cut it didnt even phase him.

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-> No exclamation marks coming from him, nothing.

Already covered this, and I'm not a fan of repeating myself. Madara knew, but his mentally, doesn't mean he could react physically.

What about this?

Covered already. Covered several times.

Of course he can. He can be very stong and very fast and he is. But do I see him stronger or faster than the guys whose forte is body strenght? No. For me its as ridiculous as idea of Naruto with better eyes than Sasuke.

He was already naturally faster than Naruto. The boosts Naruto got, Sasuke got as well (Sage's Chakra).

Yes.

Then that is a terrible argument. Madara had no reason to defend himself? He did. He even went for it by shifting his staff. He simply failed.

I never said that he isnt fast. But him being much faster than Madara? Please...

Naruto was much stronger than Madara. Madara wasn't all that. He had a crappy piece of Hagoromo's power, but Sasuke and Naruto got legitimate power from the source.

 

[Turson]

why bring up movement speed? you're clearly denying that sasuke is the fastes

What we were discussing was his speed when hes just moving. No one is denying that his s/t jutsu gives Sasuke an advantage.

 

[Chīkara]

It's funny to see pure Mangafacts, yet there are Naruto fanboys who keep denying with facts smh..

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[Turson]

Because of chakra.

Yep.

Madara knew, but his mentally, doesn't mean he could react physically.

He did turn around, so its obvious that he could react, dont you think?

He was already naturally faster than Naruto. The boosts Naruto got, Sasuke got as well (Sage's Chakra).

Remember how it was with Ashura? He also was no match for his brother when he was young. However, years later when they were equals Ashuras forte was his body, while Indras were his eyes. Its the same story with Naruto and Sasuke.

Then that is a terrible argument. Madara had no reason to defend himself?

Considering that sword pose no threat no him? No.

He had a crappy piece of Hagoromo's power, but Sasuke and Naruto got legitimate power from the source.

No. Hagoromo clearly explained that Madara awakened some of his power when he awakened Rinnegan. As Juubis Jinchuuriki he was on completely different level. Naruto and Sasuke had to combine their powers to fight him.

 

[shadowcb]

Swish means fast speed movement;

- The car swished past them.
- The bullet swished past his ear.
- She missed his cheek, and her slap swished past his face.

etc etc.

Until a better translation doesn't confirm it, it was body-flicker. Also, Sakura is able to see Naruto's movement just fine, when even Hebi Sasuke used to completely elude eye-sight. Shows one that Sasuke is out of his league at the moment.

The fact that Sakura was able to see Naruto's movement proves he was not using his full speed. Not even Killer Bee could follow Naruto movement when he's using the body flicker.

Based off how Kishi handles Sasukes speed I believe that was S/T jutsu to get behind Kaguya so he could attack her from the rear while Naruto attack her from the front. In the past when ever Sasuke used the body flicker we were always showed the results. Whether that Sasuke attack connecting, being evaded, or counter.

That makes the most scene because of the way Kishi has handled Sasuke S/T jutsu. Every time he used his S/T jutsu the element of surprise was the main focus.

 

[shadowcb]

It's funny to see pure Mangafacts, yet there are Naruto fanboys who keep denying with facts smh..

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Denying what. The fact that Sasuke used his S/T jutsu to behind Kaguya so he could attack her from the rear while Naruto attack her from the front.

 

[shelke]

The fact that Sakura was able to see Naruto's movement proves he was not using his full speed. Not even Killer Bee could follow Naruto movement when he's using the body flicker.

Based off how Kishi handles Sasukes speed I believe that was S/T jutsu to get behind Kaguya so he could attack her from the rear while Naruto attack her from the front. In the past when ever Sasuke used the body flicker we were always showed the results. Whether that Sasuke attack connecting, being evaded, or counter.

That makes the most scene because of the way Kishi has handled Sasuke S/T jutsu. Every time he used his S/T jutsu the element of surprise was the main focus.

So, the world is about to end and Naruto ... man, he's holding back. No need to go all out or use full speed.

 

[shelke]

Alright, but I see no swish in this scan.

I think that Sasuke is "faster" than Naruto in mid-range with his s/t technique. Without it? I bet Naruto and Madara are faster.

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Naruto is faster than Sasuke even outside his range, based on which manga facts? Sasuke blitzed Madara who had traveled well outside his range with foot speed. What there to deny here?

 

[shadowcb]

So, the world is about to end and Naruto ... man, he's holding back. No need to go all out or use full speed.

It wouldn't be the first time Kishi has held Naruto back. Beside, the point Kishi was making was their attack failed. You should know by now that all characters are held back at one time or another for plot.

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Naruto is faster than Sasuke even outside his range, based on which manga facts? Sasuke blitzed Madara who had traveled well outside his range with foot speed. What there to deny here?

When Sasuke attack Madara he was within his range. We never travel to Madara location. We don't know how much time it took for Sasuke to reach his location.

 

[Turson]

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Naruto is faster than Sasuke even outside his range, based on which manga facts?

Im saying that hes faster than Sasuke without teleportation. As for the Sasuke "blitzing" Madara... I guess I said enough about that.

 

[Prince Charles]

In today's chapter it looked as though sasuke used shunshin no jutsu and not teleportation.

Either way I don't see what the big deal is, they are both extremely fast as hell when it comes to movement/food speed, I still would say naruto has the advantage in that department due to possessing the physical body etc but when we factor in sasuke's teleportation obviously he essentially takes the speed trophy.

But honestly without a doubt I think it's safe to say logically naruto would be faster normal foot speed movement than sasuke. But sasuke's teleportation gives him the edge thus closing the gap.

 

[King Of Pop]

It wouldn't be the first time Kishi has held Naruto back. Beside, the point Kishi was making was their attack failed.



When Sasuke attack Madara he was within his range. We never travel to Madara location. We don't know how much time it took for Sasuke to reach his location.

no he wasnt. it was clearly stated in the manga. madara had moved out of his range and sasuke realized it hence he had to catch to him with speed. madara used full speed to get out of there, sasuke didnt pursue him immediately, madara implants kakashis eye turns around only to find sasuke near him. sasuke covered it in a short amount of time

 

[shelke]

It wouldn't be the first time Kishi has held Naruto back. Beside, the point Kishi was making was their attack failed. You should know by now that all characters are held back at one time or another for plot.

When Sasuke attack Madara he was within his range. We never travel to Madara location. We don't know how much time it took for Sasuke to reach his location.

Sounds like an excuse to me.

No he was not. The manga makes it clear through Madara that he had moved well outside his range. It was all foot speed. What do you mean you don't know?

 

[shelke]

Im saying that hes faster than Sasuke without teleportation. As for the Sasuke "blitzing" Madara... I guess I said enough about that.

And I asked you ... based on what?

 

[Bronze]

''Teleportation'' does not use speed. Speed = Distance/Time. If there is no D/T, then there is no speed. If you want to compare them on foot-speed, however, Naruto is a lot faster [

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[Turson]

And I asked you ... based on what?

Logic and storytelling.

Naruto - body.
Sasuke - eyes.

So I dont see Sasuke being faster than Naruto or Madara on his feet.

 

[Prince Charles]

''Teleportation'' does not use speed. Speed = Distance/Time. If there is no D/T, then there is no speed. If you want to compare them on foot-speed, however, Naruto is a lot faster [

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I think people are aware teleportation is not speed but can be used as a means for speed essentially.

Honestly I agree with you and Turson... I think any logical person and not a sasuke fanboy(shelke) would be able to comprehend that naruto is faster than sasuke on foot speed, come on now..

 

[King Of Pop]

''Teleportation'' does not use speed. Speed = Distance/Time. If there is no D/T, then there is no speed. If you want to compare them on foot-speed, however, Naruto is a lot faster [

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that evidence is wack. sasuke nor naruto were using their top speed, except you want to say that sasuke cannot outspeed sakura in a race. he just simply followed up her diversion, so obv he wont try to blitz. people say naruto footspeed is faster but no proper evidence.

 

[shelke]

Logic and storytelling.

Naruto - body.
Sasuke - eyes.

So I dont see Sasuke being faster than Naruto or Madara on his feet.

Yet Hebi Sasuke was faster than SM Naruto. Yet Sasuke at EMS kept up with KCM and BM just fine, and now he's faster is not logical?

So, you have nothing other than your own created logic?

 

[King Of Pop]

Logic and storytelling.

Naruto - body.
Sasuke - eyes.

So I dont see Sasuke being faster than Naruto or Madara on his feet.

you see, this is the problem. current naruto has shown no speed feats whatsover that beats the one of sasuke cutting madara yet we are supposed to just say hes faster just because he has the body?? poor logic if you ask me