[Theory] Jiraiya learned as much as he did about Akatsuki because of Itachi

[TRE MERCER]

Most likly not.

 

[Kαmi]

Back when you were BlackGod not Lord God. Haha

Right? It's kinda redundant but the name "Kami" is taken -_-. Though I'm considering going back to "KuroKami" or at least something else with Kami in it.

OT: It's too bad Kishi will never expand upon this :/

 

[Conspirator.]

Here's a good theory of mine: Itachi was the worst double agent in the history of fiction! He didn't even know about the full details of the infinite tsukuyomi, when his partner Kisame did. LOL!

 

[LustyLover]

Here's a good theory of mine: Itachi was the worst double agent in the history of fiction! He didn't even know about the full details of the infinite tsukuyomi, when his partner Kisame did. LOL!

Maybe because if Obito told him, Itachi would of killed him right then and there.

Btw, I think this theory is extremely plausible.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Maybe because if Obito told him, Itachi would of killed him right then and there.

Btw, I think this theory is extremely plausible.

Itachi had many more reasons than that to kill him.
Itach didn't kill obito because it wasn't within his power to do so.

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi had many more reasons than that to kill him.
Itach didn't kill obito because it wasn't within his power to do so.

The exact same thing could be said for Obito. The difference between the two is that Obito openly admitted inferiority multiple times.

Anyway, that's irrelevant to this thread. I think since Itachi knew J-man was Naruto's primary protector, he could of had his own individuals he suspected would of came into contact with J-man and slyly supplied them with information that would of aided Jiraiya in his protection of Naruto. Who knows, though?

 

[Cythes]

not a bad theory imo

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Itachi didn't necessarily have to come in direct contact with Jiraiya for him to learn, he could have discretely left clues for Jiraiya to pick up on.




It makes sense, remember he watched Pain vs Jman

LOL? df...

 

[Conspirator.]

Maybe because if Obito told him, Itachi would of killed him right then and there.

Btw, I think this theory is extremely plausible.

Idiot! Itachi is weaker than obito in nearly every way. He was so weak compared to Obito that he had to resort to a cowardly sneak attack/fail safe plan that didn't even work. As obito said, in only went as far as the "fail" part. LOL!

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

I can't tell if you're trying to be funny or not. But you sound retarded asking that.

I'm talking about the sig you have??

 

[BenjerminGaye]

The exact same thing could be said for Obito. The difference between the two is that Obito openly admitted inferiority multiple times.

Anyway, that's irrelevant to this thread. I think since Itachi knew J-man was Naruto's primary protector, he could of had his own individuals he suspected would of came into contact with J-man and slyly supplied them with information that would of aided Jiraiya in his protection of Naruto. Who knows, though?

Obito never said he was weaker than itachi. That's just your assumption. Obito has no reason to kill itachi since by default naruto has to be the last one sealed and thus konoha is the last place akastuki would attack.

But alas it is irrelevant. Jman was tracking the akatsuki from before having contact with itachi. As such his info had to have come from a different location. Especially considering how little info(based on what we know) he acquired.

 

[LustyLover]

Obito never said he was weaker than itachi. That's just your assumption. Obito has no reason to kill itachi since by default naruto has to be the last one sealed and thus konoha is the last place akastuki would attack.

But alas it is irrelevant. Jman was tracking the akatsuki from before having contact with itachi. As such his info had to have come from a different location. Especially considering how little info(based on what we know) he acquired.

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Obito clearly wanted Konoha. If he wanted it so badly why didn't he just kill his last obstacle? He couldn't :/. There's a reason he waited until after Itachi was dead to declare war and steal Nagato's Rinnegan. He attacked it when Minato was there and yet didn't when Itachi was watching. Why? Because he thought he could take Minato but knew he couldn't take Itachi. Why did he only go after Sasuke when Itachi died? Because Itachi would of ended his life immediately. Obito wouldn't of let himself be so hindered down by Itachi if he could of done something to end it.

 

[Inert Brian]

I like how the discussion changed >_>

 

[Kamui Sama]

Obito never said he was weaker than itachi. That's just your assumption. Obito has no reason to kill itachi since by default naruto has to be the last one sealed and thus konoha is the last place akastuki would attack.

But alas it is irrelevant. Jman was tracking the akatsuki from before having contact with itachi. As such his info had to have come from a different location. Especially considering how little info(based on what we know) he acquired.

I don't know why people brought up Obito but he did have to watch his back constantly when Itachi is alive. If Konan was able to do what she did to Obito with a plan, imagine what Itachi would be capable of. That being said, If Itachi tried to go up to Obito and fight him randomly it would not end well U_U

Anyway to comment on the thread, J-man has been known to be an expert spy/intelligence gatherer by himself, I don't think Itachi had any connection to him at all

 

[Inert Brian]

I don't know why people brought up Obito but he did have to watch his back constantly when Itachi is alive. If Konan was able to do what she did to Obito with a plan, imagine what Itachi would be capable of. That being said, If Itachi tried to go up to Obito and fight him randomly it would not end well U_U

Anyway to comment on the thread, J-man has been known to be an expert spy/intelligence gatherer by himself, I don't think Itachi had any connection to him at all

1. Completely agree with the Konan point. Konan w/ prep time was able to force Tobi in to Izanagi. Itachi can do the same.

2. That's what I find conflicting. Jman himself was a spy/infiltrator. But the missing piece is how he obtained his information. If Itachi was truly an Akatsuki spy, he should have indirectly left clues for Konoha to pick up on. If Itachi was a saint as chapter 400+ has made him out to be, you'd think he would have done more than threaten Danzo after Hiruzen's death, and idly watch Kisame capture the 4 tails.

 

[Ababeel]

How about no?

itachi has nothing to do with what Jiraiya did. The former has never given any information about the Akatsuki
for anyone....

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I don't know why people brought up Obito but he did have to watch his back constantly when Itachi is alive. If Konan was able to do what she did to Obito with a plan, imagine what Itachi would be capable of. That being said, If Itachi tried to go up to Obito and fight him randomly it would not end well U_U

Anyway to comment on the thread, J-man has been known to be an expert spy/intelligence gatherer by himself, I don't think Itachi had any connection to him at all

Not really. If itachi really knew what was up he'd know who really ran sh¡t when our came to the crew. And had he acquired konans knowledge he'd still lose to a ten min izanagi.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Not really. If itachi really knew what was up he'd know who really ran sh¡t when our came to the crew. And had he acquired konans knowledge he'd still lose to a ten min izanagi.

Possibly. I don't think Itachi stands much of a chance in a fight against Obito but I think he could have caught him off guard.

 

[End of Days]

akasuki interacts with several people that arent apart of any villages like the bounty collecting guy who knows kakuzu etc, etc

jiraiya got his info from these low level thugs not itachi

 

[End of Days]

akasuki interacts with several people that arent apart of any villages like the bounty collecting guy who knows kakuzu etc, etc

jiraiya got his info from these low level thugs not itachi