No one can escape the Kamui dimension.

[CDT23]

If Danzo get's warped to kamui dimension and uses izanagi, he'd appear in the kamui dimension but he'd still be able to negate the damage done to his leg. He cannot appear to the real world as he exists in another plane. Once in kamui, it's over unless you can use kamui.​

lol i dont think you get my point. Im trying to explain this using Kakashi and Obitos Kamui. They work in the same dimension, but are used differently. Kakashi can use it on the whole body if he choses too, or just part of the body. Obito is the same, but he cant cast it at a far distance like kakashi, only him self. So he has to make contact with an object to take them. If you Izanagi at the point of contact you can negate getting dragged into the dimension as you are only in the middle of getting taken. similar to how Minato escaped getting dragged. His jutsu allowed him to place him self behind obito instead of getting pulled into obitos jutsu.

 

[Narutoga]

yep, i agree, even juubi jic madara couldn't counter obito's phasing ...kamui is too op

 

[CDT23]

This is the point in the debate where no side can prove their belief, as we don't know the mechanics of Izanagi.

If the user has complete control over the when, where, and how of Izanagi, then you are right, but as Danzo has portrayed it as a passive ability that activates upon taking damage, you would be wrong because like I said, Kamui does not damage, it just displaces.

^yes sir, but i as i stated it can negate it at the point of contact, base on the timing you can negate it before it happens. like the example of how Minato escaped it. His jutsu activated faster than obito. placing him behind obito while he was in the middle of obitos jutsu.

 

[Uchiha Joe]

lol i dont think you get my point. Im trying to explain this using Kakashi and Obitos Kamui. They work in the same dimension, but are used differently. Kakashi can use it on the whole body if he choses too, or just part of the body. Obito is the same, but he cant cast it at a far distance like kakashi, only him self. So he has to make contact with an object to take them. If you Izanagi at the point of contact you can negate getting dragged into the dimension as you are only in the middle of getting taken. similar to how Minato escaped getting dragged. His jutsu allowed him to place him self behind obito instead of getting pulled into obitos jutsu.

Izanagi only works once your damaged which obito's kamui doesn't do. He only teleports you there, he doesn't damage the user meaning Izanagi is useless. ​

 

[Uchiha Joe]

"When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion."

No where does it say anything sbout another plane or S/T jutsu meaning it's on applicable in the real world. If Izanagi is activated in the real world, it will only work there. If izanagi is activated in the Kamui dimension, then it will only work there. Nothing proves that Izanagi allows you to move through planes, something only kamui allows you to do.​

 

[Aya San]

Izanagi only works once your damaged which obito's kamui doesn't do. He only teleports you there, he doesn't damage the user meaning Izanagi is useless. ​

Where in your ass did you pull this out m8?

 

[Uchiha Joe]

Where in your ass did you pull this out m8?

Manga phux bruh.​

 

[AaaaNinja]

You can just nickname Obito OPito then. Madara's immortal, so I guess that means if he got stuffed in the kamui dimension he would be living there by himself for eternity. Maybe he can use some of his power to create a whole world there and make it interesting.

 

[TheRapGuy]

Manga phux bruh.​

No, not at all. Damage does not have to occur.

You sacrifice the eye, you alter reality.

 

[Uchiha Joe]

No, not at all. Damage does not have to occur.

Let's hope Danzo has time to activate Izanagi before he gets warped.

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[CDT23]

Izanagi only works once your damaged which obito's kamui doesn't do. He only teleports you there, he doesn't damage the user meaning Izanagi is useless. ​

He doesnt need to take damage. It would be the best time to use it when you take damage, but it doesnt have to be used that way. It is like i said before think of it as his body is in limbo when Izanagi is activated, he can move anywhere he wants and place him self there. If he uses it at the point of contact he can move before getting sucked in, thus negating the effects of Kamui.

 

[ministerC4]

When madara was brought up I couldnt help but think how the mangekyo drained chakra and thus used chakra, and thinking of how kamui was somehow related to chakra, absorbed

 

[TheRapGuy]

Let's hope Danzo has time to activate Izanagi before he gets warped.

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OK; what does this have to do with whether damage occurs or not?

 

[CDT23]

Let's hope Danzo has time to activate Izanagi before he gets warped.

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lol, thats all you can come up with? this proves my point exactly.

 

[Uchiha Joe]

lol, thats all you can come up with? this proves my point exactly.

No, you didn't prove anything. Izanagi doesn't allow you to leave the kamui dimension. End of story.​

 

[TheRapGuy]

Tobi used Izanagi in his fight with Konan.

Tobi was intangible when activated the jutsu since he had to dodge the explosions.

So Tobi was in Kamui dimension when activated it.

When Tobi appeared he was behind Konan's back and hit her.

Tobi was tangible, and not appeared by wrapping.

This means that Tobi from Kamui got into normal world by Izanagi, since he did not wrap himself as he always does when going back by Kamui.

He simply appeared behind Konan.

 

[CDT23]

No, you didn't prove anything. Izanagi doesn't allow you to leave the kamui dimension. End of story.​

Here's where you are wrong again... this is what you said.

No, Izanagi cannot help you escape Kamui. ​

Kamui is the jutsu.
At the point of contact when the jutsu is activated, it takes time to absorb.
If Izanagi is activated during that between the time Kamui is activated, then you can prevent your self from getting warped.
Note that no where in my argument have I stated being able to cross dimension using Izanagi, as it would negate the effects before crossing thus the move either absorbs nothing, with Kakashis version, or Obito grabs nothing.

 

[Uchiha Joe]

Tobi used Izanagi in his fight with Konan.

Tobi was intangible when activated the jutsu since he had to dodge the explosions.

When Tobi appeared he was behind Konan's back and hit her.

Tobi was tangible, and not appeared by wrapping.

This means that Tobi from Kamui got into normal world by Izanagi, since he did not wrap himself as he always does when going back by Kamui.

He simply appeared behind Konan.

He did all that in one dimension ( the real world). Nothing proves izanagi can teleport him from one dimension to another.

Kamui > Izanagi​

 

[TheRapGuy]

He did all that in one dimension ( the real world). Nothing proves izanagi can teleport him from one dimension to another.

Kamui > Izanagi​

Tobi was intangible when activated Izanagi.

When Tobi is intangible his real body is inside Kamui since Kakashi was able to hit him once from Kamui dimension.

The fact that Tobi simply appeared behind Konan and not wrapped as he does when coming back from Kamui shows it.

 

[Aya San]

If you use Izanagi before getting warped then you're fine, because the one getting warped isn't even your real self, it's an illusion. You were never warped to the kamui dimension to begin with.