so, is Nagato easily top 5?

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huh! rinnegan is the most evolved form of sharingan, that's why it is better but that doesn't mean sharingan techs are useless...! kamui trolled even madara and even he needed it to catch obito, if rinnegan was so great then why madara ripped off a sharingan out of kakashi's socket??..

I never said it was useless. Its clear no ms tech is useless in fact all ms jutsu are arguably top 10 in most powerful jutsu list.

Also madara's first swing could not hit obito because of kamui, madara however could hit obito and was faster than obito could kamui and even obito agreed and said the same thing to himself.



llab madara took kakashi's ms to get to kamui dimension so he can get the other rinnegan....did you not read the latest chapter..


this is too easy I feel like I being Punk'd...where is ashton kutcher
 

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Your post just show how immature you really are, alternative account of some old probably banned member.

At least I used logic when arguing my ponts and not some illogical fanboy crap like you did.


already agreed I am arrogant but its only because this is too easy.

Also, your contradiction continues 3 posts later. You said your were done posting towards me yet here you are.


I am a new memberlike you but I clearly don't follow the same guidelines as othe rnew members like yourself does which is posting using fanboyism.
 

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Yes edo's have souls, nagaot's soul removal jutsu does not require his own soul as token. Minato's rds does and he cannot give up his soul because it is bound by another soul binding jutsu Edo Tensei.


Nagato can just take someone else's souls out as he was about to do to kcm naruto. Minato wouldn't be able to do such a thing because of what i just explained. He would have done so to stop obito from becoming juubito.

You clearly win the debate, maybe my Minato fanboyism is getting in the way.
 

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I never said it was useless. Its clear no ms tech is useless in fact all ms jutsu are arguably top 10 in most powerful jutsu list.

Also madara's first swing could not hit obito because of kamui, madara however could hit obito and was faster than obito could kamui and even obito agreed and said the same thing to himself.



llab madara took kakashi's ms to get to kamui dimension so he can get the other rinnegan....did you not read the latest chapter..


this is too easy I feel like I being Punk'd...where is ashton kutcher

huh! so madara hit obito with a rinnegan tech right... lol... also since rinnegan is greater than MS that should mean madara no longer needs sharingan but still can't go to kamui dimension, well that kinda sucks... one touch from obito means end of nagato, doesn't it...! lol use of jutsu depends on user, sharingan and rinnegan are tools to fight, if you use them correctly, you can win against each other.. people are debating that nagato = itachi and according to your theory nagato should be greater than EMS madara... jeez...
 

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One down...

who's nexts?


Show me my opponent...* crunches on chips *...show me my opponent
 

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huh! so madara hit obito with a rinnegan tech right... lol... also since rinnegan is greater than MS that should mean madara no longer needs sharingan but still can't go to kamui dimension, well that kinda sucks... one touch from obito means end of nagato, doesn't it...! lol use of jutsu depends on user, sharingan and rinnegan are tools to fight, if you use them correctly, you can win against each other.. people are debating that nagato = itachi and according to your theory nagato should be greater than EMS madara... jeez...

What are you even posting about? Are you subtly trying to say ms > rinnegan or what?


No madara didn't hit obito with a rinne tech but he did say h could use " ringa " but he didn't want to damage the rinnegan he was trying to get from obito so he didn't use it as stated in the scan.

Nope it doesn't. A faster jutsu can disrupt obito and stop him from using kamui. Shinra tensei would hit him since obito becomes solid when warping.

Nope, I n't have a theory I have manga facts backing my claims and nothing I said referred to obito or madara it was to bm minato. who has a completely different move set than madara and obito so I ask this again. What are you trying to say?
 

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Ranking is simple

Jubi Madara
Jubito
Naruto/Sasuke
Hashi
Minato
Tobirama
Nagato

there are few arguments in this case especially with the top 3

Nagato > Minato....Nagato > Tobirama... tobirama gets beat even easier by nagato than minato does.
 

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At least I used logic when arguing my ponts and not some illogical fanboy crap like you did.


already agreed I am arrogant but its only because this is too easy.

Also, your contradiction continues 3 posts later. You said your were done posting towards me yet here you are.


I am a new memberlike you but I clearly don't follow the same guidelines as othe rnew members like yourself does which is posting using fanboyism.

You say to yourself that you use logic, again just prove how....... i don't even have to tell anything more.

Well this will definitely be my last post.
 

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You say to yourself that you use logic, again just prove how....... i don't even have to tell anything more.

Well this will definitely be my last post.

Yea i used logic when arguing my point, even manga scans which you did not. You just typed anything that came in that little head of yours.

Bout time you quite replying to me, your contradiction latest 4 posts. Geez
 

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What are you even posting about? Are you subtly trying to say ms > rinnegan or what?


No madara didn't hit obito with a rinne tech but he did say h could use " ringa " but he didn't want to damage the rinnegan he was trying to get from obito so he didn't use it as stated in the scan.

Nope it doesn't. A faster jutsu can disrupt obito and stop him from using kamui. Shinra tensei would hit him since obito becomes solid when warping.

Nope, I n't have a theory I have manga facts backing my claims and nothing I said referred to obito or madara it was to bm minato. who has a completely different move set than madara and obito so I ask this again. What are you trying to say?

yeah, minato said i'll defeat mindless jubito, so your point is??
what makes you think shinra tensei is faster than kamui... give me 1 speed feat of shinra tensei, then we'll discuss it....!
it's so amazing when you clearly were debating with me about rinnegan being > sharingan and suddenly it becomes about BM minato... well no matter, BM minato destroys nagato low diff...! nagato has damaged legs, can't move well and minato has SM as well as BM... greater fire power, greater speed... just tell me what defeats BM minato which nagato has....
 

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Elaborate, most of the base posts top 10 lists that match this. If you can give me a counter to ftg i will accept

I ready countered minato. Tobirama is quite easier because he doesn't use multiple ftg kunai as minato does and his efficiency with ftg is less than minato's.

Tobirama has one ftg attack combo and that is the ftg slash. As seen in this scan tobirama appears directly behind his opponent and then he uses the kunai to attack. Nagato can counter that by having his summons out on the field which he autoatically does sinc ehe cannot move around that good so he sues them to move him around and the summons have shared vision with him just likethe pains and if I am not mistaken one of the blind pains ducked undr a direct kick to the face from sm jiraya at point blank range which isno different then what tobirama just did in that scan. People get mistaken when they think ftg and the ftg+combo is the same and its not, ftgallows the user to teleoportinstanly to a location, the ftg combo's allow the user to teleport to any location and then attack, which minato has dones againt kid obito, he teleported and then used rasengan, as well as what tobirama did in the scan. To shorten it up, ftg is instant but the jutsu/attack that follows is not, as seen in the scan and as seen when minato attacked godara.


Also ct would stop tobirama from attacking nagato because it would constantly pull him immediately after he ftg to a location unless he teleports away from the battle and that would be againt manga logicf how battles go. Also note minto nor tobirama can used ftg forver so eventually they woul succumb to ct this is just a shortened small slim minuscule version of what i have posted earlier in the thread.
 

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yeah, minato said i'll defeat mindless jubito, so your point is??
what makes you think shinra tensei is faster than kamui... give me 1 speed feat of shinra tensei, then we'll discuss it....!
it's so amazing when you clearly were debating with me about rinnegan being > sharingan and suddenly it becomes about BM minato... well no matter, BM minato destroys nagato low diff...! nagato has damaged legs, can't move well and minato has SM as well as BM... greater fire power, greater speed... just tell me what defeats BM minato which nagato has....

Shinra tensei acts on th speed of thought. In other words it happens whenever the user wants to use it, before and after he time interval of course.


I meant my posts on this thread have been about nagato > bm minato...I already countered bm minato... Read earlier posts
 

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Shinra tensei acts on th speed of thought. In other words it happens whenever the user wants to use it, before and after he time interval of course.


I meant my posts on this thread have been about nagato > bm minato...I already countered bm minato... Read earlier posts

XD so CT is your counter to BM minato when it can be destroyed with TBB not to mention multiple TBB's...! and summon's won't let minato do it when minato clearly has summons of his own...! what else did you counter.. remind me please...
 

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yeah, minato said i'll defeat mindless jubito, so your point is??
what makes you think shinra tensei is faster than kamui... give me 1 speed feat of shinra tensei, then we'll discuss it....!
it's so amazing when you clearly were debating with me about rinnegan being > sharingan and suddenly it becomes about BM minato... well no matter, BM minato destroys nagato low diff...! nagato has damaged legs, can't move well and minato has SM as well as BM... greater fire power, greater speed... just tell me what defeats BM minato which nagato has....

In everyone of my posts I asked what are you talking about?

I don't see the need to debate wich is greatersine the manga has established several imes that the rinnegan is greater, you trying to debate otherwise just proves your denial and ignorance to the manga and what it has to say and what it has shown. Also your whole argument is based on what nagato can do with the rinnegan and not all rinne users which shows a biased opinon form you on this matter. Deabting is litterally to easy for me.
 

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lmao gai sensei with 8th gates is stronger than hashi and no he is not easily top 5
 

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XD so CT is your counter to BM minato when it can be destroyed with TBB not to mention multiple TBB's...! and summon's won't let minato do it when minato clearly has summons of his own...! what else did you counter.. remind me please...

As I can see your mind is limited whne thinking critically. You we're o focused on stopping ct with tbb's. Tbb won't be used by minato, because of the 9 summons. I already showed scans of the 3 giant toads that were getting chewed up by just ne of nagato's summons the dog summon to be exact. So if 3 giant toads can beat 1 giant dog then the other 8 would attack minato and stop him from using tbb along with nagato who would be ttacking with ashura path cannons and st. He won't be using tbb. try agian
scan to back up they were being handled by one summon
 

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In everyone of my posts I asked what are you talking about?

I don't see the need to debate wich is greatersine the manga has established several imes that the rinnegan is greater, you trying to debate otherwise just proves your denial and ignorance to the manga and what it has to say and what it has shown. Also your whole argument is based on what nagato can do with the rinnegan and not all rinne users which shows a biased opinon form you on this matter. Deabting is litterally to easy for me.

weren't you using nagato as rinnegan example?? and i used madara's example to show you how op kamui is, not to compare madara's rinnegan with kamui... and we all know madara with even 1 rinnegan > nagato with both... and it seems you have forgotten my 1st post, i said rinnegan is most evolved form of sharingan and that's why it is called better not because it is too OP... i've been saying that it all depends on user and not on rinnegan and sharingan itself... just like how EMS madara > nagato, obito > nagato.. see the examples dude... who's in denial here...

anyway signing off... good night...
 

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lmao gai sensei with 8th gates is stronger than hashi and no he is not easily top 5

thats ot true on 2 points.


1. Hashirama is greater than gai. He can easily use bringer of darkness jutsu and gai would be caught in it and hashirama and or clones can just pick gai apart in the jutsu. ABC logic does not work in naruto.

2. 8th gate gai power proved to be greater han the 2 halves( naruto & sasuke ) 8 th gate ai nearly killed a whole, a half is less than a whole, so 8th gate gai is greater than naruto and sasuke. Not to mention he nearly killed godara who ad " Ia m lucky to be alive " after gai's night moth was finished.
 

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out of all the fanbases on this site negato has the worst... i hate you ppl

back during the great narutobase war senju/uzimaki peace squad vs the uchiha clan I came to the conclusion negato is the most overrate of all time

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he is 8 or 9 tied with itachi
 

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weren't you using nagato as rinnegan example?? and i used madara's example to show you how op kamui is, not to compare madara's rinnegan with kamui... and we all know madara with even 1 rinnegan > nagato with both... and it seems you have forgotten my 1st post, i said rinnegan is most evolved form of sharingan and that's why it is called better not because it is too OP... i've been saying that it all depends on user and not on rinnegan and sharingan itself... just like how EMS madara > nagato, obito > nagato.. see the examples dude... who's in denial here...

anyway signing off... good night...

Your whole argument is baed on what nagato can do, disregarding e other 2 rinne users.

Also I countered the kamui > rinne techs thing by showing ascan of madara refusing to use ringa a rinne tech on obito becaus ehe didn't want to destroy the rinne obito has. Fail

Your whole argument started with you complaining about what obito said in the latest chapter, and then now you come to digress several posts ater. I can't be in denial because I said rinne > ms so you fail right there.
 
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