Obitos manipulation confirmed

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How do you guys feel about Madara as a villian now??


It was theorized at one point Madara set up the whole mist incident. It seems to be true after the last chapter. Obito was a complete pawn from beginning to end. I feel pretty bad for him.


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Everyone is feeling bad for Obito now :| But it doesn't change the fact that he was a murderous guy who threatened to kill a newborn baby.

Kishi just loves to redeem his villains making them seem like victims doesn't he? Even though there's been ninjas with worse past than Obito's and didn't turn to the dark side.

Now I'm not saying that Obito should be hated with passion but he shouldn't be easily forgiven either. I like it more when villains are villains until the end, to be honest.
 

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Does anyone have any idea how Madara even got the puppet seal on Rin's heart? I thought he was stuck in the cave connected to the tree. Could he have sent out Limbo Madara to do it?
 

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Everyone is feeling bad for Obito now :| But it doesn't change the fact that he was a murderous guy who threatened to kill a newborn baby.

Kishi just loves to redeem his villains making them seem like victims doesn't he? Even though there's been ninjas with worse past than Obito's and didn't turn to the dark side.

Now I'm not saying that Obito should be hated with passion but he shouldn't be easily forgiven either. I like it more when villains are villains until the end, to be honest.
Yes you're right. He shouldn't be forgiven at all. I feel bad only because he was manipulated but it doesn't change the fact he chose to do it. Obito has to live with the consequences he intentiionally carried out MAdaras will with his own resolve. Obito is the number 1 pawn in Naruto.
 

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Everyone is feeling bad for Obito now :| But it doesn't change the fact that he was a murderous guy who threatened to kill a newborn baby.

Kishi just loves to redeem his villains making them seem like victims doesn't he? Even though there's been ninjas with worse past than Obito's and didn't turn to the dark side.

Now I'm not saying that Obito should be hated with passion but he shouldn't be easily forgiven either. I like it more when villains are villains until the end, to be honest.
Pretty much how I feel about Obito. :|
 

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Obito being forced into darkness doesn't justify or redeem the acts he committed posing as Madara. In no way do I feel bad for Obito.
 

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Obito manipulated nagato and sasuke to a lesser extent, too bad he never noticed that he himself was nothing more than an expendable pawn. Also, Obito fits into the category of an anti villain.
 
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Obito manipulated nagato and sasuke to a lesser extent, too bad he never noticed that he himself was nothing more than an expendable pawn. Also, Obito fits into the category of an anti villain.
He knew he was a pawn the moment he knew he would have to use Rinne Tensei on Madara
 

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Yes you're right. He shouldn't be forgiven at all. I feel bad only because he was manipulated but it doesn't change the fact he chose to do it. Obito has to live with the consequences he intentiionally carried out MAdaras will with his own resolve. Obito is the number 1 pawn in Naruto.
Madara's will holds no boundry's
 
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Actually I'm inclined to think that Madara was the puppeteer behind obito's actions, including the kyuubi attack and the yahiko incident. Maybe he implanted mind controlling in the white zetsu that was half of obito. Whatever the case if Obito was as much of a good, loving and caring person as Madara says then I refuse to believe he came up with such heartless ways to further his own goals. Also I don't think that obito would put everyone in infinite tsukuyomi just so that he can see rin again and others can meet lost loved ones. I do feel bad for him but I can't help but wonder if the change between his former and current self was too drastic and, even on fictional terms, unrealistic.
 
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I still dont like obito but once again efff kishimoto!! This is the 2nd time he made me hate a character but feel bad for them because of how twisted stuff that happened longtime ago within the story was.
 

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Actually I'm inclined to think that Madara was the puppeteer behind obito's actions, including the kyuubi attack and the yahiko incident. Maybe he implanted mind controlling in the white zetsu that was half of obito. Whatever the case if Obito was as much of a good, loving and caring person as Madara says then I refuse to believe he came up with such heartless ways to further his own goals. Also I don't think that obito would put everyone in infinite tsukuyomi just so that he can see rin again and others can meet lost loved ones. I do feel bad for him but I can't help but wonder if the change between his former and current self was too drastic and, even on fictional terms, unrealistic.

Madara just explained it. The more a person is good at heart, the more fueled by hatred he becomes when tipped over into the darkness...
 

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Everyone is feeling bad for Obito now :| But it doesn't change the fact that he was a murderous guy who threatened to kill a newborn baby.

Kishi just loves to redeem his villains making them seem like victims doesn't he? Even though there's been ninjas with worse past than Obito's and didn't turn to the dark side.

Now I'm not saying that Obito should be hated with passion but he shouldn't be easily forgiven either. I like it more when villains are villains until the end, to be honest.
But this is Naruto, Noones is a villian, they are just following thier own sense of good.
 

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Madara just explained it. The more a person is good at heart, the more fueled by hatred he becomes when tipped over into the darkness...
Like every action has an equal and opposite reaction? Yes but he was only 13 when he darkness consumed him. He spent the rest of his life as a ruthless monster. Dude must have been a celestial saint before. The amount of good he once had in his heart doesn't match the darkness he's showed to accomplish his goals
 

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Obito was manipulated to get converted into Dark Side,but after that,after Madara died,he was his own master [Madara himself admitted to Hashirama that after his death nothing went as he had planned] and literally made other top class shinobi's his puppets. To manipulate a 11 years old kid is easy through brainwashing but to manipulate grown ups is a task that requires skill. Besides let's just wait and see what happens next chapter shall we?
 

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Lmao same. I feel bad for the guy.

Madara sets him up.
Madara ruins his life.
MAdara makes him a pawn.
Madara seals his heart so he can't even commit suicide.


Shit... That's fantastic villainy.
 
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