I kinda agree that the Moon is a natural object and was not created by anyone. If you think about it the Sun is a natural celestial object and to compare it with a artificial object (According to legend) is not logical as an Artificial object cannot be compared to a Natural object.
This would basically break the Sun=Moon symbolism as according to the Rikudou legend, Sun>Moon.
Also, it makes sense that the Moon was a natural celestial object and was used to seal the Juubi hinting at a connection between the Moon and the Juubi.
They're supposed to be the balance of everything. Juubi possess Yin Yang, plus its the creator of the Narutoverse. It wouldn't make any sense if Juubi created sun, but didn't create the moon.
They're supposed to be the balance of everything. Juubi possess Yin Yang, plus its the creator of the Narutoverse. It wouldn't make any sense if Juubi created sun, but didn't create the moon and the Earth.
That was only an explanation of steps of Mugen Tsukuyomi. The fact Obito had to first open the fruit, so the eye can look at the moon, is enough proof that Kaguya did the same thing. Mugen Tsukuyomi's 1st step is like that. She ruled and controlled the world.
Except Mugen Tsukuyomi requires the moon to be casted. That would mean he didn't create the moon.
Remember, kishi fiction is not based on actual astrology; meaning we all know that both the sun and moon are actual celestial entities in real life, however kishi has stated many times that in Narutovers the Sage of the Six Paths created the moon.
He has not indicated that Kaguya created it. Although yes, she was extremely powerful and probably had the power to, however, the moon was created after the chakra of the Juubi had been separated into the Bijuus, the moon being the empty shell of the Juubi. Kaguya wouldnt have done this as the 9 Bijuus were separated and distributed by the Sage himself... so even based on the timeline, Kaguya wouldnt have been the one to use the moon for Infinite Tsukuyomi.
come on! (creator of the thread ridiculing a man for disagreeing although even what i have said here is enough evidence to prove it was the Sage and not Kaguya that created the moon -__- )
The moon is needed for Mugen Tsukuyomi to cast a Genjutsu on the whole world, but Kaguya ruled only one country-according to Hagoromo. Hagoromo sealed Gedō Mazō with Chibaku Tensei which became later known as the moon.
The moon is needed for Mugen Tsukuyomi to cast a Genjutsu on the whole world, but Kaguya ruled only one country-according to Hagoromo. Hagoromo sealed Gedō Mazō with Chibaku Tensei which became later known as the moon.
Hagoromo didn't say she used it on country. He said ''people'', which in a term can be defined as world. Kaguya controlled the world when she gained the fruit power. Based on the context, it would mean she used Mugen Tsukuyomi on the world, which can only happen by casting it on the moon where it reflect on the earth.
if kaguya had used the moon then it would have been shown
The fact Obito had to first open the fruit, so the eye can look at the moon, is enough proof that Kaguya did the same thing. Mugen Tsukuyomi's 1st step is like that. She ruled and controlled the world.
Except Mugen Tsukuyomi requires the moon to be casted. That would mean he didn't create the moon.
1- She casted the Genjutsu on the moon, then kept world connected to God Tree's roots.
2- No, they're using the Juubi's eye for the Genjutsu [
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3- Hagoromo lived for months due to Mazo [
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Show me a scan that she used different method? Tsukuyomi eye moon only works by casting the Genjutsu on the moon. Since the scan implies it, Hagoromo never created the moon in that case.
Nothing states she used Infinite Tsukuyomi on people, just that she used her eye powers on them. Furthermore, she is implied to be of a higher level than not only Madara, but Hagoromo as well. She may not have even required the moon.
All of this however is insignificant to the fact that the time and circumstances behind Hagoromo creating the moon are unknown. He may have created it when he was a baby, child, teenager or young adult for all we know. Nothing states he created it solely to seal the juubi or that he made it only at that time. Furthermore, Kaguya's fate and the time she used her power over the people are also unknown. Obito stated he used that giant helix sword to shape the world. He may have created the moon as a young man to give the world tides or just to test his abilities.
Can someone explain why madara said he summoned the gedo mazo from the moon? I mean, since op is claiming the sage didnt create the moon then how in the hell did the gedo get sealed in there?
Off-topic STOP insulting other people and pretending to be smartass
On topic:
2) Nowhere it was implied that Kaguya used the Massive scale eternal genjutsu which could require the moon to project that genjutsu on entire world.
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3) The scan proves that Kagyua used other method to cast Eternal Tsukuyiomi on the people. It was by sticking people to roots of the holy tree. In other words Kishi implies that Kagyua used her Shinjuu'eye power to control Shinjuu to caught people in her Eternal Tsukyiomi.
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4) Hagoromo only mentioned that Kagyua used ther sharingan's eternal genjutsu technique to enslave some of the people, NOT ALL OF THEM.
5) You are butthurt, because Sage > your favourite (unless your favourite is Kagyua)
To end this baseless thread, Even if Kagyua indeed used the Moon, then it just means Ten tails destroyed the moon in fight against Sage and his brother.
Hagoromo Ootsutsuki then simly recreated it.
Who knows if it was even the moon before Kagyua came, it is possible that Kagyua create the moon once which was later destroyed and Hagoromo just recreated it due to respect to his mother.
