Kamui takes time to warp things

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Kamui has never been shown to warp things instantly. It can warp things quickly, but not instantaneously.

Even the fastest Kamui is a panel slower than Amaterasu.

1st stage: Amaterasu activates --> 2nd stage: Flame appears on target.

1st stage: Kamui activates --> 2nd stage: Target begins to wobble/bend -> 3rd stage: target disappears.

And the 2nd stage of Kamui can be interrupted and it is extremely hard to use against a moving target.

This is not to say Kamui is weak, just overrated. Kakashi's Kamui for example doesn't fare so well against people who:

-regularly use shadow clones;
-have good speed.


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Instantly teleported Naruto's clone before Obito knew what was happening... Numerous times.
 

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Even the fastest Kamui is a panel slower than Amaterasu.

1st stage: Amaterasu activates --> 2nd stage: Flame appears on target.

1st stage: Kamui activates --> 2nd stage: Target begins to wobble/bend -> 3rd stage: target disappears.

You see, Kamui is so fast that you missed an example of Kakashi kamuing so fast it happened mid-panel. Lol
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To make it even more fun, he warped two arrows in this mid-panel time.
In between these panels, everything you mentioned happened:
1. Kamui activates.
2. "Target starts to whirl"
3. Target disappears.
4. Repeat steps 1 to 3 for the other arrow.
 
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I agree if you have a quick reation like Madara so6p then kamui is useless.
 

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Even when Sasuke alreaded activated MS, Kakashi didn't even activated it and one shoted 2 susanoo arrow instantly, MS activation,kamui + warp in 1 panel.


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Amaterasu is nowhere near kamui's speed.Kamui is near instant whereas amaterasu take more time and make eye bleed first then it's cast.The amaterasu will simply be warped while his eye bleed and even before.


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Gentlemen, I think we're done here.
We've provided more than enough examples of Kakashi kamuing stuff at near-instantenous speed. That's a whole different league than Amaterasu. U_U
 

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While ama claiming to be instantaneous gets dodged by Aye.
While kakashi ripped of gedo's arm while it was being summoned to another place by madara.
 

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Instantly teleported Naruto's clone before Obito knew what was happening... Numerous times.

This, it doesn't take time, didnt he instantly teleport the full Hachibi aswell
 

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This, it doesn't take time, didnt he instantly teleport the full Hachibi aswell

Yup, but let's cut this guy some slack and skip this argument, as it was probably thanks to Kurama's chakra that he was able to do it so fast with Hachibi.

Still:
-warping the nail
-warping two arrows in a row
-warping Naruto's clone

All of these were so fast they happened in a single panel or even between panels.
 

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Obito warped sasuke away from a Jinton which is close to instant.

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it's obviously not instant, can it be very fast- sure

the amount of time it takes to warp things is very short, lets examin his susanoo arrow feat.
The kamui works by looking at a point and warping whatever is their, it should be noted that Kamui doesnot follow/move to its target. so, in order to warp the kamui arrows, it has to atleast warp fast enough to hit the arrows before they left kamui's area of effect.

So yes, if you are hit by kamui, you would have to be extermly fast to leave its area of affect before being warped.- Nobody has a feat of going fast enough to do that, so for the purposes of a verses match, if kakashi hits you with kamui you are getting warped.
So yes, kamui isnot instant, but it is fast enough to be considered so because no character in the manga is remoty fast enough to move that fast. I would argue that at max speed it might be faster than light ( black whole) because Obito thought he could warp Minato and he could teleport. Also, kamui hit the gedou right as it was being summoned.

Is kamui faster than amaterasu? nope- it has not shown to be faster at all.- I think people need to realize that being faster than a person can see doesnot mean you are faster than the attack. I can run circles around you on a bike, and you won't be able to aim and hit with a gun, but I am still slower than a bullet.
-Once ammaterasu is prepped it is instant for a certain distance after that it flies in the air at a much slower rate. sasuke shows that once ammy is active, it instantly appears all the way up to probably about 15 feet away.
We know kamui teleports at different speeds according to the user, however using feats, we cannot say that it can be amped up to instantaneous, mabey ftl but not instant.

Note: I am not saying that you have to be FTL to dodge kamui from kakashi, lol not at all. It takes prep to activate kamui and then kakashi has to aim as well. What I am saying is that if you are fast enough, even if kakashi activated kamui and it hits you-you might be able to get away.

-Amaterasu is faster because even if you are FTL +, if are are within its spawning range ( it doesnot come from sasuke's eyes, it spontainiasly appears were he is looking for a max of x distance- it would hit you. If sasuke activated ammy, and you are within range, no amount of speed is going to allow you to avoid ammy. that doesnot apply to kamui because it doesnot have the feats to support that notion.

Note: if you cite that Minato teleported away from obito, recall that obito was only like 14 and he said he could have warped even faster.
 
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Minato threw a kunai faster than kamui could activate, gaara's sand wall to activate, and while going into senjutsu mode.

Then Minato got his arm chopped off the 3-4 seconds after he instantly appeared, (meanwhile kamui is still swirling), while madara chopped his arm off, spun, kicked his arm with rasengan, and kicked minato all in time before kamui was complete activated.

Kamui is very slow, even though Minato himself is faster than that...and gaara's sand, its just pathetic of kakashi and the jutsu itself. Would have been better if Minato saved Obito instead and Kakashi try to warp madara, there shouldn't be a counter to kamui atm.

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There's no such thing as close to instant Tobirama fan :|

Don't be biased, Obito's kamui is near instant, he was able to Warp to sasuke, warp him away and get out in time before jinton activated, that's as close to instant as you can get without it being instant of course.
 
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