Minato and Naruto deserve to die.

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Like father like son they say. Minato is a giant ***** just like Naruto. If they had allowed Sasuke and Kakashi to kill Failbito the war would have been over by now. All the people people that are currently dead, died because Minatard and Fodderuto didn't have the balls to kill Failbito.Thanks to them Madara was able to use Obito and revive himself.

Minato and Naruto's leniency towards a mass murderer like Obito is proof that they lack what it takes to be Hokage. U_U
Kakashi and Lord Sasuke would make better Hokage.
 

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Re: Because of Minato they are losing the war.

^ That is manga's panel time and nothing more. It doesn't amount to time at all. Muu is a senser, he doesn't need his eyes for anything. This is where you have no argument. The fact that his sensing utterly failed to pick up two people - one of them has Bijuu level Chakra and Tsunade's Chakra reserves are also massive - proves you wrong that the teleportation WAS instant and they barely had any time to react.

Now Muu, who evaded KCM Naruto as if it was child's play, couldn't even evade, But Madara guarded the attack perfectly. All this lapse is speculation when Muu couldn't detect jack and both of them simply appeared out of no where. You denying this and using 'Thunder Gold' terms - which are metaphorical - doesn't add anything to the argument.
 

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Funny, pretty sure the guy Naruto and Minato spared is about to fight Madara.
 

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not surprised you made this thread
 

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Lol minato is dead. Naruto is too
 

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Re: Because of Minato they are losing the war.

Why not focus the hate on someone else. Minato did more helping then a large portion of the ninja in the war.
 

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Re: Because of Minato they are losing the war.

Doesn't matter if its a manga panel, Both of them notice the light before tsunade and Ay appeared meaning the had time to react.
 

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[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lbB_HVcXpPk[/video]
 

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So you think Naruto and Minato deserve to die? Mkay.

Not to that extent, but their current predicament is entirely their faults. So while they do not deserve to die, they do deserve whatever comes to them.

You don't know that.

He was already fully restrained and unable to escape without accessing his full power as he had in life.

Had obito been killed, I 100% believe Madara would have been sealed as well.
 

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Controversial title? Check.
Character bashing? Check.
Irrational reasoning? Check.

Bait thread. Move along.
 

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Op is also correct I've said that sasuke should be nominated because he could have stopped obito n grab his eye
 

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Not to that extent, but their current predicament is entirely their faults. So while they do not deserve to die, they do deserve whatever comes to them.

Naruto didn't defend Obito from being killed. That was all Minato man.

Anyway, we don't know what would have happened, what with Black Zetsu and Spiral Zetsu on the loose.
 

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Re: Because of Minato they are losing the war.

^ That is manga's panel time and nothing more. It doesn't amount to time at all. Muu is a senser, he doesn't need his eyes for anything. This is where you have no argument. The fact that his sensing utterly failed to pick up two people - one of them has Bijuu level Chakra and Tsunade's Chakra reserves are also massive - proves you wrong that the teleportation WAS instant and they barely had any time to react.

Now Muu, who evaded KCM Naruto as if it was child's play, couldn't even evade, But Madara guarded the attack perfectly. All this lapse is speculation when Muu couldn't detect jack and both of them simply appeared out of no where. You denying this and using 'Thunder Gold' terms - which are metaphorical - doesn't add anything to the argument.
Of course they appear instantly. But they appear instantly after the huge lightning show. The scan with Darui and the pot proves just that. There was the lightning strike first, without the pot, then the pot appeared. The time between the light and the object appearing was also enough for Muu to shield eyes from the light. That's the main point.
Also Muu might be a sensor but Kabuto isn't. Muu was directly under Kabuto's control, not to mention there's also the possibility if he did put up a guard but wasn't strong enough to withstand the attack. Very probable seeing as he was at 50% power because he split himself.
Call it speculation if you want but I've already established 1 irrefutable fact.
There's indeed a time lapse between the light appearing and the teleported objects appearing. Enough time to warn the enemy of an incoming attack.
And as for the name of the technique, surely you don't want a list of all the techniques in NV with greatly exaggerated names now do you?
 
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