Smh Minato.

[ajpn920]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

The link doesn't work. Seems like it's chapter 415. Since in that chapter, Naruto is doing Sage training, I assume it's the right chapter. I read the entire chapter and nothing about "nature chakra" is said, just the real thing: Nature Energy.

My bad..I was referring to nature's energy. It is still needed in using senjutsu chakra. As explained in chap.415 senjutsu takes in the natural energy from outside, so rather than becoming exhausted, the user recover quickly. Minato can't recover chakra fast enough to perform those feats i've mentioned.

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[Punk Hazard]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

The fight between Obito and Minato lasted the time it would take him to enter Sage Mode. Why would he enter SM to defeat an opponent he can easily defeat in base? He said it himself that his opponent was rushing, so it was going to be a quick fight. The real question you must ask yourself is why he didn't kill Obito when he already marked the guy? Problem however is that the village was in danger. The priority at that moment was saving the village, and we've seen that if he decided to follow Obito instead, the village would have been destroyed since a second reappearing in the outskirts of Konoha after his fight, Kyubi was about to nuke everyone with Bijuudamas

Against Jubito it can be understandable. After all, he has more fire power in Bijuu-mode than in SM, so obviously he would prefer using Bijuu-mode to combine attacks with his son's sage mode to not lose in power

1. Minato entered Sage Mode effortless in about a second. He could saw how a direct attack with the Rasengan didn't kill Tobi. Since Minato is a smart man, if Kishi wanted to him to have Sage Mode at that point(and he would have had it since the dead can't train), then Kishi would have made him use it. The fact that Minato let Tobi escape without taking a second to go Sage Mode and then blitz him with an attack that would kill him is contributing to the bad writing.

For my second point, and to address the bold, let me just copy and paste something I said earlier about this very thing.
2. KM/BM being stronger does not matter. What matters is the power that is more useful. When locating and removing the chakra rods from the Bijuu, Naruto used Sage Mode because he knew it was more useful in that situation, even though KM was stronger. If a complete shitbrain like Naruto was able to figure that out, and make such a good judgement, why wouldn't Minato? Minato is very intelligent, so do you really think it makes sense that he would stay in KM and not use SM at any point? Think about it, Naruto is already using BM and SM. If SM is Juubito's weakness, wouldn't it make more sense and be more efficient to have two SM users and one BM user, rather than one SM user and two BM users? Wouldn't it make sense for Minato to figure that out?

Once again, you're letting the fact that you're a Minato fan cloud your reasoning. Instead of looking at this objectively, you refuse to say anything that doesn't justify this situation. At this point, you're being a fanboy.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

brags about fkn b1tches, cries like a b1tch on naruto forums. someone is very low self-esteemed to have to go on forum sites and not only b1tch about a character he has a hard on for that doesn't exist, but also pose as a self-proclaimed bad ass in order to feel better about his pathetic self irl. just figured you out kid. sorry if you are a little butthurt.

Fatality novacore wins....lol lmao

 

[shelke]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

His wife was dying, his kid's life was in danger, he thought it was Madara ... Damn, the guy was just not pushed hard enough.

 

[brownbear]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Unprotected? Who said that I don't want that? That was my choice and did not regret it. I consider it a blessing from above. Having a child is awesome dude..An achievement for a guy that perhaps you haven't done yet..well, just tell me if you're a ***** and i'll pull my SM out of nowhere for you..=D

I have a daughter dude and I know full and well that having unprotected *** is what leads to the female getting pregnant. Perhaphs you didn't know. Mabey you kid is a test tube baby or mabey your just some twelve yr old with a compulsive disire to make stuff up. Either way you should refrain from teaching you values to your child. I hope for they're sake that the mother is still in the picture.

 

[ajpn920]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

brags about fkn b1tches, cries like a b1tch on naruto forums. someone is very low self-esteemed to have to go on forum sites and not only b1tch about a character he has a hard on for that doesn't exist, but also pose as a self-proclaimed bad ass in order to feel better about his pathetic self irl. just figured you out kid. sorry if you are a little butthurt.

Who said i'm crying? I'm enjoying boy! Reading stupid response from you made my day..laughter is the best medicine you know. btw, so what if i'm badass? are you affected by that?

I have a daughter dude and I know full and well that having unprotected *** is what leads to the female getting pregnant. Perhaphs you didn't know. Mabey you kid is a test tube baby or mabey your just some twelve yr old with a compulsive disire to make stuff up. Either way you should refrain from teaching you values to your child. I hope for they're sake that the mother is still in the picture.

You mean I'm wrong for wanting a child at a young age? It's my choice and we have to live by that. The thing is, i did not run from my obligation as a father even at young age. If you choose not to be a father at a young age then that's your choice. Perhaps you're right from your point of view but i'm not regretting any..Anyway, let's go back to the topic..=D

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

My bad..I was referring to nature's energy. It is still needed in using senjutsu chakra. As explained in chap.415 senjutsu takes in the natural energy from outside, so rather than becoming exhausted, the user recover quickly. Minato can't recover chakra fast enough to perform those feats i've mentioned.

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I understand that. But like I said earlier, gathering Nature Energy doesn't increase how much chakra you have left. If you don't have enough chakra to perform a technique prior to gathering Nature Energy, you won't have enough chakra after gathering Nature Energy.

 

[Hokage Sharingan Kakashi]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

An asspull is something pulled out of nowhere. There are hints given that Minato can use SM. Why neglect that?

Lol why neglect that?
Lol really man?
Seriously if Minato had Sennin Modo he would have used it when it was needed most.Also, mind you that I've yet to see Minato not use a skill or a jutsu that he possessed at the necessary time in an effective manner.

 

[Bogard]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

1. Minato entered Sage Mode effortless in about a second. He could saw how a direct attack with the Rasengan didn't kill Tobi. Since Minato is a smart man, if Kishi wanted to him to have Sage Mode at that point(and he would have had it since the dead can't train), then Kishi would have made him use it. The fact that Minato let Tobi escape without taking a second to go Sage Mode and then blitz him with an attack that would kill him is contributing to the bad writing.

you said it yourself, Minato can enter Sage Mode effortlessly, so entering Sage mode in a battle isn't difficult for him. So in his mindset, he could easily think about going to fight the one he thought was Madara knowing that at any moment in the fight, in case he proves difficulties, he could enter SM at any moment to have more chances to win, especially when you know that his SM is limited in time since he doesn't have someone to mould the Sage chakra for him. It's far better to use it within a battle, but said battle didn't last long since his opponent was rushing and got quickly defeated

For my second point, and to address the bold, let me just copy and paste something I said earlier about this very thing.
2. KM/BM being stronger does not matter. What matters is the power that is more useful. When locating and removing the chakra rods from the Bijuu, Naruto used Sage Mode because he knew it was more useful in that situation, even though KM was stronger. If a complete shitbrain like Naruto was able to figure that out, and make such a good judgement, why wouldn't Minato? Minato is very intelligent, so do you really think it makes sense that he would stay in KM and not use SM at any point? Think about it, Naruto is already using BM and SM. If SM is Juubito's weakness, wouldn't it make more sense and be more efficient to have two SM users and one BM user, rather than one SM user and two BM users? Wouldn't it make sense for Minato to figure that out?

What you totally miss is that SM isn't Jubito's weakness. It's the only way to touch him. 2 things different. Naruto was already there to give the way to touch Jubito(sage mode). From that point, fire power is much more needed than another guy who could give a way to touch the same opponent when one is already there

Once again, you're letting the fact that you're a Minato fan cloud your reasoning. Instead of looking at this objectively, you refuse to say anything that doesn't justify this situation. At this point, you're being a fanboy.

Lol i was the first one to mention the fact it was an asspull the moment the chapter came out:

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I'm just trying to see how far i can logically argue against it at this point

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Another fact that probaly needs to be adressed is why did Minato wait until the last second to use SM?If he really had it don't you think it would've helped in the times where he was standing around while Naruto,Tobirama,and Sasuke attacked Obito?

 

[ajpn920]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Where are scans that show minato using SM 16 years ago??? Was he wearing contacts??

I'm not saying he's using SM but senjutsu chakra

 

[ajpn920]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Lol why neglect that?
Lol really man?
Seriously if Minato had Sennin Modo he would have used it when it was needed most.Also, mind you that I've yet to see Minato not use a skill or a jutsu that he possessed at the necessary time in an effective manner.

What was the perfect time then to use SM? Against Obito? Do you think SM can do well against Obito's kamui? FTG is the solution to Obito's kamui so using SM at that point is not needed. Against Juubito? It was Naruto who figured that SM works on Obito. That time, Minato was using KCM. KCM/BM is more useful at that point.

I understand that. But like I said earlier, gathering Nature Energy doesn't increase how much chakra you have left. If you don't have enough chakra to perform a technique prior to gathering Nature Energy, you won't have enough chakra after gathering Nature Energy.

True but using senjutsu chakra does not affect the current chakra. There is the 3 way balancing mentioned by the sage toad. The result from balancing a nature energy, physical and spiritual is senjutsu chakra. Minato may not have enough chakra (physical and spiritual) but by gathering nature's energy to form senjutsu chakra, he was able to accomplish his goal. I can't see how he can recover chakra that fast to teleport kurama. The only logical way to explain that is he is using senjutsu chakra and not his own chakra.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

you said it yourself, Minato can enter Sage Mode effortlessly, so entering Sage mode in a battle isn't difficult for him. So in his mindset, he could easily think about going to fight the one he thought was Madara knowing that at any moment in the fight, in case he proves difficulties, he could enter SM at any moment to have more chances to win, especially when you know that his SM is limited in time since he doesn't have someone to mould the Sage chakra for him. It's far better to use it within a battle, but said battle didn't last long since his opponent was rushing and got quickly defeated

What you totally miss is that SM isn't Jubito's weakness. It's the only way to touch him. 2 things different. Naruto was already there to give the way to touch Jubito(sage mode). From that point, fire power is much more needed than another guy who could give a way to touch the same opponent when one is already there

Lol i was the first one to mention the fact it was an asspull the moment the chapter came out:

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I'm just trying to see how far i can logically argue against it at this point

Like I've said before, why would Minato kill fodder, but let the man that killed his wife, caused monstrosity rampage through the village, attacked his newborn son and could cause problems for the entire world live and escape? If base form didn't cut it, why would he not finish it off with SM? In Base mode, he gained a massive upperhand and did major damage in, like, half a minute manga time. Going SM would have taken literally no time, and he would be able to finish him off even faster. Minato should have been able to figure out that Tobi is tangible while warping, as Konan did, so he should have blitzed Tobi with Sage Mode. He didn't because Kishi chose to take it in a different direction, which is why it's bad writing.

If something is the only thing that can affect you, then it's your weakness. SM causes a shitload of firepower. Two SM users would have better, and Minato should have been able to figure that out.

 

[Super7]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Far too many people are thinking it's a plothole when it's not, can't wait to see the permarage when it's revealed that the kyuubi stopped him from using sage mode while in KCM

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Far too many people are thinking it's a plothole when it's not, can't wait to see the permarage when it's revealed that the kyuubi stopped him from using sage mode while in KCM

How???Yin Kurama was friendly with Minato otherwise he would'nt have been able to use BM.

 

[ajpn920]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Far too many people are thinking it's a plothole when it's not, can't wait to see the permarage when it's revealed that the kyuubi stopped him from using sage mode while in KCM

I would love to see that. I can't imagine how these guys will react if that happens.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

I would love to see that. I can't imagine how these guys will react if that happens.

If that was the explanation then Minato should'nt be able to use BM either.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Far too many people are thinking it's a plothole when it's not, can't wait to see the permarage when it's revealed that the kyuubi stopped him from using sage mode while in KCM

Because Minato couldn't leave KCM and go SM, right?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Because Minato couldn't leave KCM and go SM, right?

Yeah,I'd love to hear them explain that one.

 

[shelke]

Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

The only reason Naruto couldn't meld SM with his Bijuu Chakra was because Kurama opposed it. Where is the opposition in Minato's case? More ass-pulls from Minato sympathizers, I see.