Lol Can kakashi withstand bunch of crows or even 5 Bomb Clones and kamui all of it?

[sharingansennin]

Itachi>Kakashi unless he's ill

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi already countered Tsukiyomi, and has encountered Sasuke's susano'o that is at a higher level then Itachi's. Kakashi was taking on multiple tailed beasts in the war and kamui a rasengan faster then Obito's sharingan can see. Yata isn't even an issue because Kamui spawns behind the mirror bypassing it completely.

The manga has progressed past itachi at this point, he had his time but he can't play with the big boys anymore.....plain and simple.

You can't just demote itachi from the adult table like that.

 

[Gatsuuga]

You can't just demote itachi from the adult table like that.

I lawl'ed. It totally just happened...

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[AlphaScythian]

Amaterasu faster then kamui

 

[dms_kakashi]

as if itachi has enough chakra for that

 

[Gatsuuga]

Amaterasu faster then kamui

Evidence to support this? Amatersu travels in a linear direction from the eye then spawns when it hit comes into contact with an object. Kamui spawns directly onto the point of focus and is basically instant these days. Kakashi kamui'ed a rasengan faster then Obito's sharingan could even see. Obito's eyesight is better then Itachi's since Itachi is partially blind from overusing MS.

Besides it doesn't really matter, many people have had amatersu on them for a period without dying. Kakashi simply tanks it for the time being, snipes Itachi, then Kamui's himself into the kamui dimension which has been shown as a counter to amaterasu when hit.

 

[TaBaYo]

Why dont Kakashi Kamui the summoner instead of kamui the objects summoned. The OT is not understandable.:nuts:

 

[AlphaScythian]

Evidence to support this? Amatersu travels in a linear direction from the eye then spawns when it hit comes into contact with an object. Kamui spawns directly onto the point of focus and is basically instant these days. Kakashi kamui'ed a rasengan faster then Obito's sharingan could even see. Obito's eyesight is better then Itachi's since Itachi is partially blind from overusing MS.

Besides it doesn't really matter, many people have had amatersu on them for a period without dying. Kakashi simply tanks it for the time being, snipes Itachi, then Kamui's himself into the kamui dimension which has been shown as a counter to amaterasu when hit.

Ama is converted on spot just like kamui. Reread manga.
Obito most likely used izanagi to counter amaterasu.
No proof it was kamui.
Being uchiha itachi has speed advantage and overall mastery over kakashi
Ama to the head solves retaliation problem

 

[CloyEscapade]

So Kalashnikov can now kamui behind the mirror... You're suggesting he can kamui without actually seeing the object... If that's true why is this manga still going... Kakashi can apperantly be anyone now.

 

[Takos]

Ama is converted on spot just like kamui. Reread manga.

I did. Sasuke launched Amaterasu at A and the flame was already formed and DID travel towards A. Raikage then dodged it and the flame continued travelling until it hit a samurai standing behind.

Obito most likely used izanagi to counter amaterasu.

Agree.

Being uchiha itachi has speed advantage and overall mastery over kakashi

Is your only argument for Itachi's superiority "he's an Uchiha"? That's quite silly.

Ama to the head solves retaliation problem

Also, as opposed to Ama, Kamui has not been shown to create detectable pressure in the user's eye. Yet another advantage of Kamui over Amaterasu.


By the way, I absolutely adore the way OP is assuming Kakashi will just stand and wait until Itachi can surround him with clones and shit. Lol
Let's consider a different scenario, in this case. Kakashi uses Raikiri and impales Itachi. Will his Susanoo help him? xd

 

[Bogard]

Agree.

Izanagi requires handseals to be used. He couldn't have used izanagi in that position:

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[Takos]

Izanagi requires handseals to be used. He couldn't have used izanagi in that position:

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Obito used Izanagi without seals as far as I remember, when he fought Konan.

 

[Bogard]

Obito used Izanagi without seals as far as I remember, when he fought Konan.

Pretty sure it was off-paneled. Izanagi requires handseals for everyone. It's not depending on the user. Even in Itachi's fb against Kabuto, Izanagi users were using handseals

 

[Takos]

Pretty sure it was off-paneled. Izanagi requires handseals for everyone. It's not depending on the user. Even in Itachi's fb against Kabuto, Izanagi users were using handseals

You do have a point, but I don't think it's a proof.

 

[Bogard]

You do have a point, but I don't think it's a proof.

Even the databook says Kamui and i find it far likely than izanagi

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[AlphaScythian]

Pretty sure it was off-paneled. Izanagi requires handseals for everyone. It's not depending on the user. Even in Itachi's fb against Kabuto, Izanagi users were using handseals

Seals are only for likes of danzo and eyes in your hand. If you have sharingan in right place no seals are needed

@takos. Itachi can counter kamui by creating a clone or two infront himself.
His hand signs speed couldnt be followed by sharingan.

In fight with sasuke ama clearly spawned in mid air where LOS took place

 

[Bogard]

Seals are only for likes of danzo and eyes in your hand. If you have sharingan in right place no seals are needed

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[Black Wolf]

NOPE!!! He hasn't shown it yet. It's just like the situation with sasuke's perfect susanoo. We all know that he can do it , but it cannot be used in debates as we do not know what it can do by itself. Its the same situation.

Except its not at all the same situation. Kamui is used to get in, Kamui is used to get out. There is no different mechanism through which the process is carried out.

While I do believe Sasuke can use Perfect Susano'o, the naysayers have far more basis due to Naruto's presence bolstering him. There were potential factors that contributed to Sasuke's usage of Perfect Susano'o, whereas Kamui is Kamui.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Amaterasu won't work even if it hits him. Kamui is a natural counter for Amaterasu. It hit Obito point blank and he came back unscathed after warping the flames

Obito's Kamui is different from KAkashi's Kamui... Kakashi has never been shown to use Kamui on an abject that is litterally on him... Obito most likely used Kamui to make the flames go straight through him... And remember Amaterasu spawns at the users focus( note: I am not saying it spawns on target, just in the direction the user wants it to go in)

 

[AlphaScythian]

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This is general sign for concentration has nothing to do with jutsu seals.
I can link you dozens of these