Failures?

[Unbiased]

Well this is something someone who only look at the cover would say

Talking about genius?

1- He copied Hiraishin sure, but the part you miss here is he developed it on his own without help despite living in a complete different era than Tobirama, making it better and even creating useful variants

2- He learned Uzumaki sealings from her wife, but the part you miss here is he learned hereditary Uzumaki specialised sealing techniques despite not possessing a known bloodline

3- He created rasengan just by observing tailed beast Bijudamas

May i continue?

3- He is also the only one in the entire manga since Haku capable of one-handed handsigns

4- His one-handed Bijuu extracting and sealing skills can be done in an instant when it required 3days for the entire akatsuki to extract Bijuus

5- He can use every types of chakra:

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6- He can become a perfect host of the strongest Bijuu in an instant when it was considered impossible for most and required decades for Naruto to be able to

Just to name some and the dude is barely in his twenties

Also you mention the fact he should have killed Obito, but do you forget the village was in danger? If he didn't come up even a second earlier, Hiruzen and co would have mopped the ground by Kyubi's Bijudama

No I'm not talking about genius. We're talking about whether or not he's a failure which it's quite apparent he is.

1: In what ways did he develop the FTG? FTG V2 isn't developing it btw. That's simply throwing a kunai and teleporting to it. It's still the same jutsu.

2: He learned uzumaki sealings? Hereditary? The only uzumaki seal he has shown to date would be Death Reaper seal. Even then it's not hereditary as anyone like Hiruzen could use it.

3: Can't deny that, not that it retracts anything about him being a failure.

4: Wrong. His one handed seals are not an instant otherwise black zetsu would of never taken him. Madara is now in possession of the Yin Chakra, nothing instant happened with Minato.

5: I wouldn't be too sure on that. It's a good hypothesis, but nonetheless we haven't seen him use any chakra type let alone all five. Besides that, that's a different jutsu altogether. We've seen Cee and Karina switch to and from sensing.

6: That doesn't make him a failure how?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

We still haven't seen his Spiralling Flash Super Round Dance Howl Participate Formula Jutsu yet.

Sadly I think that jutsu is never going to be seen along with Naruto's secret jutsu,he,Jiraiya,and Minato had been working on.

 

[Bogard]

No I'm not talking about genius. We're talking about whether or not he's a failure which it's quite apparent he is.

1: In what ways did he develop the FTG? FTG V2 isn't developing it btw. That's simply throwing a kunai and teleporting to it. It's still the same jutsu.

2: He learned uzumaki sealings? Hereditary? The only uzumaki seal he has shown to date would be Death Reaper seal. Even then it's not hereditary as anyone like Hiruzen could use it.

3: Can't deny that, not that it retracts anything about him being a failure.

4: Wrong. His one handed seals are not an instant otherwise black zetsu would of never taken him. Madara is now in possession of the Yin Chakra, nothing instant happened with Minato.

5: I wouldn't be too sure on that. It's a good hypothesis, but nonetheless we haven't seen him use any chakra type let alone all five. Besides that, that's a different jutsu altogether. We've seen Cee and Karina switch to and from sensing.

6: That doesn't make him a failure how?

1- Tobirama's hiraishin is limited in number per use:

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Minato also developed the S/T barrier. We also have yet to see his Rasen chourinbu kousanshiki that seems to be a S/T related jutsu

2- Dafuq? Tailed beast transfer technique:

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Contract seal:

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RDS:

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8 trigrams seals:

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4 symbol seal:

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Along with a great bunch of other seals:

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3- Good then

4- It surely isn't instant, but you completely missed the point. It was to say it was far faster than what entire Akatsuki was capable to since they needed 3days just to extract bijuus

And how is he a failure? Everyone fails at something. Minato isn't almighty, omnipotent to know everything, he isn't god. If you thought he was perfect, then you were clearly wrong since the start

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

If your a Edo Tensei in NV you failed at something, FACT!

Except for Madara.

 

[Avery Namikaze]

1- Tobirama's hiraishin is limited in number per use:

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Minato also developed the S/T barrier. We also have yet to see his Rasen chourinbu kousanshiki that seems to be a S/T related jutsu

2- Dafuq? Tailed beast transfer technique:

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Contract seal:

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RDS:

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8 trigrams seals:

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4 symbol seal:

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Along with a great bunch of other seals:

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3- Good then

4- It surely isn't instant, but you completely missed the point. It was to say it was far faster than what entire Akatsuki was capable to since they needed 3days just to extract bijuus

And how is he a failure? Everyone fails at something. Minato isn't almighty, omnipotent to know everything, he isn't god. If you thought he was perfect, then you were clearly wrong since the start

You sir, are being added to my friends.

 

[HadouKage]

Probably because he is a failure. Here's a list of reasons why.

1: Praised as one of the most gifted and unmatched shinobi's by A and Jiraiya, yet all of his techniques are stolen excluding rasengan.
2: Failed to kill Obito in his fight which would of been simple since he had him marked. He could of stabbed him in his heart or cut his throat for example.
3: Failed to protect his wife from the kyuubi by transporting it to her after bunta was summoned on top of her.
4: Failed to protect his son against black zetsu and therefore causing him to die.

The list goes on and on. Outside of saving the SA twice and shooting the wad out that became Naruto, he's pretty much a failure with stolen techniques.

It's comments like these I don't like
As I said once before, many shinobi's are failures, not just Minato

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

It's comments like these I don't like
As I said once before, many shinobi's are failures, not just Minato

But how many unwittingly gave the last piece of the villain's plan to them?

 

[HadouKage]

But how many unwittingly gave the last piece of the villain's plan to them?

Unwillingly?*

Sasuke
Hashirama
Hiruzen
Itachi


Need I go on?

 

[Bogard]

But how many unwittingly gave the last piece of the villain's plan to them?

Tobirama left Madara absorb every Bijuus only because he was waiting for Madara to drop his guard in case of overjoy and failed in the end. If he intervened sooner, the distraction would have stopped the extraction. Who is to blame?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Tobirama left Madara absorb every Bijuus only because he was waiting for Madara to drop his guard in case of overjoy and failed in the end. If he intervened sooner, the distraction would have stopped the extraction. Who is to blame?

Tobirama would've gotten soloed by that Rinnegan jutsu just like the tailed beasts.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Unwillingly?*

Sasuke
Hashirama
Hiruzen
Itachi


Need I go on?

Hashirama was paralyzed,Itachi and Sasuke did'nt give away a tailed beast straight into the enemy's hands like Minato did,and Hiruzen did'nt do anything except falter when trying to kill his student.

 

[Bogard]

Tobirama would've gotten soloed by that Rinnegan jutsu just like the tailed beasts.

Tobirama is an edo tensei. He doesn't need to worry if he gets soloed or not. It was a heavy miscalculation on his part here by freely giving the Bijuus to Madara when he could have intervened sooner. Even if he would have gotten soloed, Madara would have left the Bijuus meantime who would have won the tug of war and thus avoiding the extraction

 

[Smd]

he isnt a failure


kakashi
naruto
obito


are failures

 

[HadouKage]

Hashirama was paralyzed,Itachi and Sasuke did'nt give away a tailed beast straight into the enemy's hands like Minato did,and Hiruzen did'nt do anything except falter when trying to kill his student.

Lol @ bold?
Hashi allowed Madara to absorb is SM
Hiruzen wasn't strong enough to protect the village from the Nine tails and prevent casualties
Wasn't Sasuke a part of the Akatsuki?
You said unwillingly and one way or another the list of shinobi that I named failed one way or another. That's not even the whole list tho.

 

[HadouKage]

he isnt a failure


kakashi
naruto
obito


are failures

So is Sasuke and Itachi :|

 

[ANiMUS]

Yeah I don't quite understand that.



That was the point though, you said that and when I reply you retract it. At least stay consistent.

I meant chidori spear sorry

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Lol @ bold?
Hashi allowed Madara to absorb is SM
Hiruzen wasn't strong enough to protect the village from the Nine tails and prevent casualties
Wasn't Sasuke a part of the Akatsuki?
You said unwillingly and one way or another the list of shinobi that I named failed one way or another. That's not even the whole list tho.

I said unwittingly.And Hashirama was a sitting duck since he could'nt move because of the Chakra Rods stabbed into his back.Sasuke only delivered that tentacle and not the actual Eight Tails otherwise the war would've been over alot sooner.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Tobirama is an edo tensei. He doesn't need to worry if he gets soloed or not. It was a heavy miscalculation on his part here by freely giving the Bijuus to Madara when he could have intervened sooner. Even if he would have gotten soloed, Madara would have left the Bijuus meantime who would have won the tug of war and thus avoiding the extraction

What played out between Tobirama and Madara would've had the same result and the bijuu would've still been sealed.It did'nt matter if he attacked sooner because Madara was still stronger than him.

 

[Bogard]

What played out between Tobirama and Madara would've had the same result and the bijuu would've still been sealed.It did'nt matter if he attacked sooner because Madara was still stronger than him.

The time Tobirama fought Madara, Gaara had time to escape:

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If he intervened sooner, it's the Bijuus who would have escaped

 

[HadouKage]

I said unwittingly.And Hashirama was a sitting duck since he could'nt move because of the Chakra Rods stabbed into his back.Sasuke only delivered that tentacle and not the actual Eight Tails otherwise the war would've been over alot sooner.

un·wit·ting adjective \-ˈwi-tiŋ\
: not aware of what is really happening

: not intended or planned

You think Hashi intended to give Madara his SM? No, but he still aided to it anyway. Not only that, Hashirama admitted himself that he messed up when create the ninja system

Sasuke was working for both Akatsuki and Tobi, nothing more to be said there