Current Sakura and Neji vs the sound 5 + Part1 Kabuto

[fayeon]

Is kimi there ? If he is there than team 2 with a stomp

If he isn't its debatable.

Pretty sure he is talking about his web shoot, which physical attacks is useless against



Which is useless if she can't get close. Punching the ground is not killing anybody.

What's so special about Sakura that can cut his threads?

Chakra scalpel ?

Its a knife made from chakra so it will logicaly cutt chakra webs

 

[illidanson]

The healthy Kimimaro is a fanfiction.

I guess you could call it that, but it is obvious that he would have been stronger if he wasn't sick, so it still makes a difference.

 

[AGoodBoy]

dafuq is this?

Kimimaro murder stomps sakura. Kidomaru and the rest of the sound 4 can beat some damage into neji with kabuto's help. Neji's not defeating kabuto (who was said to be as strong as kakashi) along with the other sound 4. team 2 wins.

 

[TheEvilOne]

dafuq is this?

Kimimaro murder stomps sakura. Kidomaru and the rest of the sound 4 can beat some damage into neji with kabuto's help. Neji's not defeating kabuto (who was said to be as strong as kakashi) along with the other sound 4. team 2 wins.

Sakura was said to be on pair with Naruto and Sasuke

 

[AGoodBoy]

Sakura was said to be on pair with Naruto and Sasuke

Yes, KCM naruto and Base sasuke, what's your point? Even base kakashi could give base sasuke a decent fight.

 

[BlacLord™]

Team 2 but Team 1 holds out quite well for a while.

At the end of the day, Sakura isn't quick enough to land a hit on any of them. Taking out Juubi clones isn't much of a feat either since even fodder have been capable of that.

It'll turn into a match of Neji watching Sakura's back i.e. she's bound to get caught up in Kidomaru's webs and she has no way of escaping them because unlike Tsunade, she's a weakling whose strength is derived only from chakra enhanced punches.

She may however be able to deal with Tayuya but that's about it, on her own. Neji can deal with Kidomaru, Jirobo and Sakon but he'll be too fatigued to take on Kabuto or Kimimaro.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Team 2 but Team 1 holds out quite well for a while.

At the end of the day, Sakura isn't quick enough to land a hit on any of them. Taking out Juubi clones isn't much of a feat either since even fodder have been capable of that.

It'll turn into a match of Neji watching Sakura's back i.e. she's bound to get caught up in Kidomaru's webs and she has no way of escaping them because unlike Tsunade, she's a weakling whose strength is derived only from chakra enhanced punches.

She may however be able to deal with Tayuya but that's about it, on her own. Neji can deal with Kidomaru, Jirobo and Sakon but he'll be too fatigued to take on Kabuto or Kimimaro.

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According to the databook, even early part1 Sakura is faster then Tayuya and Jirubo. War arc Sakura's speed is greatly increased.

Yeah, the others defeated 1 or 2 mini juubi, she oneshotted more then 30.

- Tayuya = non factor in this battle. Her genjutsu can be countered by Sakura or Katsuyu.
- Jirubo is fat and slow, Neji and Sakura are both able to blitz and oneshot him
- Sakon and Ukon have nothing impressive besides the Rashomon

The only threats are Kabuto and Kimimaro.

I'm not sayign Sakura and Neji would win, but this battle s far from an onesided stomp.

 

[TheTailedSage]

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According to the databook, even early part1 Sakura is faster then Tayuya and Jirubo. War arc Sakura's speed is greatly increased.

Yeah, the others defeated 1 or 2 mini juubi, she oneshotted more then 30.

- Tayuya = non factor in this battle. Her genjutsu can be countered by Sakura or Katsuyu.
- Jirubo is fat and slow, Neji and Sakura are both able to blitz and oneshot him
- Sakon and Ukon have nothing impressive besides the Rashomon

The only threats are Kabuto and Kimimaro.

I'm not sayign Sakura and Neji would win, but this battle s far from an onesided stomp.

According to the databook Itachi and Tayuya both have 5 in gen and ITachi wass a genjutsu master... so that means tayuya is too??

She one shotted fodder clones= you crushing 30 ants with your foot
They are still fodder, the only difference his the range of her attack made her take more out

Tayuya Captures Sakura in sound gen. You need handseal to break out of it none of which she will be able to do if her hands are melting in the genjutsu. She gets gen'd before katsuya comes about because th eflute is the only weapon Tayuya has hence why she will start with genjutsu.

Kidomaru uses his arrows as soon as shes caught in gen or the web and shes a sitting duck. Neji also gets frozen in gen and that leaves everyone else to mop the floor with their corpses.

This is a stomp

 

[fayeon]

Team 2 but Team 1 holds out quite well for a while.

At the end of the day, Sakura isn't quick enough to land a hit on any of them. Taking out Juubi clones isn't much of a feat either since even fodder have been capable of that.

It'll turn into a match of Neji watching Sakura's back i.e. she's bound to get caught up in Kidomaru's webs and she has no way of escaping them because unlike Tsunade, she's a weakling whose strength is derived only from chakra enhanced punches.

She may however be able to deal with Tayuya but that's about it, on her own. Neji can deal with Kidomaru, Jirobo and Sakon but he'll be too fatigued to take on Kabuto or Kimimaro.

How is she isn't quick enough to land a hit on any of them Even though she is faster than few of them?


And she have counter for the webs she have chakra scalpel .

And sakura raw strength is decent you are talking like if this was part 1 sakura .


About the jubi clones .

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We only see the rookie and important characters defeating them [not as much as sakura] .

We didn't see any fodder defeating a single jubbi clone they even got injuried than sakura healed them .

not to mention sakura One shotted 50 one of them by punching the ground .

So easily a ground punch could harm someone on the sound four .

 

[fayeon]

According to the databook Itachi and Tayuya both have 5 in gen and ITachi wass a genjutsu master... so that means tayuya is too??

She one shotted fodder clones= you crushing 30 ants with your foot
They are still fodder, the only difference his the range of her attack made her take more out

Tayuya Captures Sakura in sound gen. You need handseal to break out of it none of which she will be able to do if her hands are melting in the genjutsu. She gets gen'd before katsuya comes about because th eflute is the only weapon Tayuya has hence why she will start with genjutsu.

Kidomaru uses his arrows as soon as shes caught in gen or the web and shes a sitting duck. Neji also gets frozen in gen and that leaves everyone else to mop the floor with their corpses.

This is a stomp

That doesnt mean itachi and tayuya are equal because kishi cant give number higher than 5

Tayuya genjutsu is very good but it can be broken by pain by biting her lips just like kurnai .

And ps in tayuya sound genjutsu people were able to talk hence moving their lips .

 

[Kαmi]

Team sound, mid diff. The team work of the sound village who mainly work together is too great in this matchup.

 

[TheTailedSage]

That doesnt mean itachi and tayuya are equal because kishi cant give number higher than 5

Tayuya genjutsu is very good but it can be broken by pain by biting her lips just like kurnai .

And ps in tayuya sound genjutsu people were able to talk hence moving their lips .

My point exactly, the databook isn't reliable thus wee should quote the databook.

And look how long it take shikamaru who is better at jutsu analysis than sakura to figure out and how long was he fighting her for?? Sakura has no knowledge about tayuayas genjutsu. He had to break his finger WITH shadows to escape lv2 genjutsu. Sakura can't do this simply biting his tongue obviously wasn't enough or he would have done so instead of break his finger.

 

[fayeon]

My point exactly, the databook isn't reliable thus wee should quote the databook.

And look how long it take shikamaru who is better at jutsu analysis than sakura to figure out and how long was he fighting her for?? Sakura has no knowledge about tayuayas genjutsu. He had to break his finger WITH shadows to escape lv2 genjutsu. Sakura can't do this simply biting his tongue obviously wasn't enough or he would have done so instead of break his finger.

Its stupid to say shikamaru didn't bite his tounge because its not enough

He simply had a different and smarter plan (with his shadows tayuya didn't notice )

Still pain break genjutsu at least the level of tayuya when people could still talk with each other .


Shikamaru was good in genjutsu but sakura originally a genjutsu type so she have more advantage not to mention she have freaking katsuyu who can simply free her partner From genjutsu .

 

[TheTailedSage]

Its stupid to say shikamaru didn't bite his tounge because its not enough

He simply had a different and smarter plan (with his shadows tayuya didn't notice )

Still pain break genjutsu at least the level of tayuya when people could still talk with each other .


Shikamaru was good in genjutsu but sakura originally a genjutsu type so she have more advantage not to mention she have freaking katsuyu who can simply free her partner From genjutsu .

Okay so how is breaking your finger when you could just bite your tongue remotely a smarter plan?? common sense tells you by the extreme extent he took that simply biting his tongue was not enough, especial for this level of genjutsu.

Im not disputing that pain doesnt break gen but it takes a certain level of pain to do it. When has sakura ever performed a genjutsu?? and Like i said Tayuya puts her in gen before she summons

 

[AGoodBoy]

According to the databook Itachi and Tayuya both have 5 in gen and ITachi wass a genjutsu master... so that means tayuya is too??

She one shotted fodder clones= you crushing 30 ants with your foot
They are still fodder, the only difference his the range of her attack made her take more out

Tayuya Captures Sakura in sound gen. You need handseal to break out of it none of which she will be able to do if her hands are melting in the genjutsu. She gets gen'd before katsuya comes about because th eflute is the only weapon Tayuya has hence why she will start with genjutsu.

Kidomaru uses his arrows as soon as shes caught in gen or the web and shes a sitting duck. Neji also gets frozen in gen and that leaves everyone else to mop the floor with their corpses.

This is a stomp

OBVIOUSLY tayuya's a genjutsu expert. Are you kidding me!?!?!?!? Her entire arsenal is based off sound genjutsu, wtf. That's like saying "Oh! Lee has a 5 in taijutsu?? Does that mean he's as good in taijutsu as guy???" Yes!
Now, before you come bite my head off, let me state this. The databook represents BASE stats. That 5 for itachi is with his sharingan OFF - As in, if itachi used something like finger genjutsu, that's good damn kurenai level genjutsu from his finger tips. Hence why Itachi is so damn OP, because he gets sharingan's massive genjutsu boost along with his natural genjutsu gifts. Even Kakashi (who has a 4 in genjutsu) has top tier genjutsu when using the sharingan.

tl;dr; Base Itachi(sharingan off) and tayuya most possibly have comparable genjutsu skills. The Sharingan is just damn OP.

 

[fayeon]

Okay so how is breaking your finger when you could just bite your tongue remotely a smarter plan?? common sense tells you by the extreme extent he took that simply biting his tongue was not enough, especial for this level of genjutsu.

Im not disputing that pain doesnt break gen but it takes a certain level of pain to do it. When has sakura ever performed a genjutsu?? and Like i said Tayuya puts her in gen before she summons

Well she just need to bite harder .

Breaking his finger with shadow was not expected it was a strategy without tayuya knowing . Because biting lips its too obvious .


Again you dont have a prove biting lips until it bleed is not strong enough since its been used to break genjutsu before its safe to assume sakura would use it .


And why in hell would tayuya finsh her flute song before sakura summon in seconds ? You just put the stargy you want .


Summoning is much faster than casting flute genjutsu .

The OP already involoved katsuyu you cant say tayuya cast her genjutsu before sakura summon it .



Anyway i never said sakura casted genjutsu I am saying she is already a genjutsu type and better than shika at it

So she will realize the genjutsu .

 

[Murasame]

Sakura was said to be on pair with Naruto and Sasuke

More like it was Sakura self proclaiming she was if I remember correctly.

 

[TheEvilOne]

According to the databook Itachi and Tayuya both have 5 in gen and ITachi wass a genjutsu master... so that means tayuya is too??

1 She one shotted fodder clones= you crushing 30 ants with your foot
They are still fodder, the only difference his the range of her attack made her take more out

Tayuya Captures Sakura in sound gen. 2 You need handseal to break out of it none of which she will be able to do if her hands are melting in the genjutsu. She gets gen'd before katsuya comes about because th eflute is the only weapon Tayuya has hence why she will start with genjutsu.

Kidomaru uses his arrows as soon as shes caught in gen or the web and shes a sitting duck. Neji also gets frozen in gen and that leaves everyone else to mop the floor with their corpses.

This is a stomp

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Was it stated they were fodders? How can something which is coming from the strongest bijuu ever lived be a fodder to begin with. They had most likely higher durability then the humans, they were bigger then the humans and they were able to use different weapons and shields. So they without a doubt were stronger then the average chuunins.

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Shikamaru says hi

Neji counters Kidomaru, considering he has full intel on his abilities. And this is part2 Neji, not the part1 who struggled against him. He is faster now and more skilled.


So no, this is far from a stomp.
I changed my mind tho, Kimimaro's team would win after a long battle.

 

[TheTailedSage]

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Was it stated they were fodders? How can something which is coming from the strongest bijuu ever lived be a fodder to begin with. They had most likely higher durability then the humans, they were bigger then the humans and they were able to use different weapons and shields. So they without a doubt were stronger then the average chuunins.

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Shikamaru says hi

Neji counters Kidomaru, considering he has full intel on his abilities. And this is part2 Neji, not the part1 who struggled against him. He is faster now and more skilled.


So no, this is far from a stomp.
I changed my mind tho, Kimimaro's team would win after a long battle.

Why do you always ask for implicit proof when you know there is none. IF kiba is wiping out the clones then they are fodder. Like you always like to say "they have shown no feats thus they are fodder" no evasion or skill feats so yes they are fodder if they had even the slightest bit of skill then they would have avoided most of the moves that got lashed out at them.

Shadow release says hi:

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The jutsu purpose is to restrict movement and she can control you ass she pleases:

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Not to mention he would have died if he didnt initially use shadow mimic, AND he had to break his finge to gain control again. Sakura cant do this.

Tayuya Says hi her genjutsu doesnt just stun one person at a time, its a group damage. This is why i said Tayuya and Kidomaru combo considering Neji has intel like you said. Sakura or Neji don't know about Tayuya.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Katsuyu breaks the genjutsu