You people underestimate sage mode.

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People say that Naruto is weak without Kurama and that he is high jonin level at best. You are underestimating him too much. In sage mode alone, he was able to defeat the third raikage and Kurama. Also, he is much stronger than Kakashi in sage mode. Kakashi actually stated that Naruto surpassed him when he learned rasenshuriken. In sage mode, Naruto can make multiple and larger rasenshurikens as well as rasengans. Let's not forget frog kata style. Do you remember that invisible punch that Naruto did against Pain? That attack would totally wreck many people. Also, Naruto is stronger than Tsunade and Utakata in sage mode. How many paths of pain do you think Tsunade would have been able to beat? As for Utakata, he was only able to destroy about one or two Pains. Naruto is also still the strongest in Konoha 11 with sage mode alone. Finally, Naruto is even stronger than Jiraiya with sage mode. Jiraiya struggled against 3 pains and needed the help of the two frogs while Naruto quickly beat up to 5 of them before being pinned down by the Deva path and seeing Hinata get stabbed. This was before Naruto got even better with sage mode.

Do you see now? Naruto is not weak without Kurama! He was even able to help against Madara in sage mode (unlike those other random shinobi). In the third shippuden movie, Naruto even beat Gaara in his base state! If Kurama gets extracted and Naruto survives, he will still be at least mid to high kage level. Yes he would be weaker than he is now, but he would still be nowhere near weak in general. In case you are wondering, no I did not include anything about Sasuke in my analysis (so I am not trying to start a Naruto without Kurama vs Sasuke war).

Ps. Why do people criticize Naruto about using Kurama and say that he always depends on Kurama? He just got BM that day (in the manga time). He just got KCM the previous day (and that mode technically belongs to Naruto. He can use it without Kurama's cooperation). Before that, Naruto mainly just stuck to base state and sage mode (except when he got really mad). He single handedly beat Kakashi without Kurama's help (yes I know he apparently got those red eyes at one point, but that didn't really do anything).

Finally, nobody ever criticizes Bee or any other jinchuuriki about this issue (and Bee uses Gyuki all the time)! They only criticise Naruto. Why is that?
 

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I agree, almost no one can take on SM naruto in tandem with ma and pa and the whole toad parade, and frog song could possibly 1 shot even the likes of Maddy.
 

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Yes sm naruto is kage level with sm...he prolly can beat all the gokage 1v1
 

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Yeah, sm nardo is strong. no doubt about that.
 

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stop saying he beat the third raikage. he was saved multiple times and fed intel. 1v1 he dies easily
 

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^^ SM Naruto ^^

Naruto beat pain due to having 100% FULL INTEL and Pain having 0% intel
 

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Listen naruto and sasuke are hiding their true power , ryt Nw they are analizing the enemy strength. And yes even without da 9 tails chakra. Naruto is still strong .but all I am saying is naruto must get new wind Style jutsu or another nature element. Then he would be interesting
 

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The only Sage Mode that matters is Hashirama's.​
 

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Listen naruto and sasuke are hiding their true power , ryt Nw they are analizing the enemy strength. And yes even without da 9 tails chakra. Naruto is still strong .but all I am saying is naruto must get new wind Style jutsu or another nature element. Then he would be interesting
Yea he need another element or something that is exclusive to only him. Like how hashirama has wood style
 

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I agree, almost no one can take on SM naruto in tandem with ma and pa and the whole toad parade, and frog song could possibly 1 shot even the likes of Maddy.

Oh please lets not start wanking..........
 

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his is actually the least impressive

False, Madara went after Hashirama's Sage Mode not Naruto's even though he knows Naruto has Sage Mode as well.​
 

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False, Madara went after Hashirama's Sage Mode not Naruto's even though he knows Naruto has Sage Mode as well.​

Being the most powerful Sage Mode doesn't necessarily make it interesting to the reader.
 
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Finally, nobody ever criticizes Bee or any other jinchuuriki about this issue (and Bee uses Gyuki all the time)! They only criticise Naruto. Why is that?

It's because he is the main character and he is in every chapter. So it's obvious every one will talk more about him than any other character.
 

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False, Madara went after Hashirama's Sage Mode not Naruto's even though he knows Naruto has Sage Mode as well.​

of course he did, he doesn't have Nardo or Kabuto in his chest, he has hashi, which means that he can maintain his sage mode indefinitely since he's sitting in his chest motionless, but DSM makes you immune to visual genjutsu, and FSM has frog kata, Hashi's sage mode as of now has shown no unique or interesting powers, it just enhances jutsu, and durability maybe.
 
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