Konoha trains Ninja patheticly.

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It took Naruto 3 YEARS TO LEARN WHAT HIS CHAKRA NATURE WAS, even after studying under Jiraiya.

What the hell sort of training is that? What were they teaching people? Sasuke learnt Katon when he was like 8...
This is why Konoha got owned by Pein. What sort of training is this.
 

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That's because Konoha sucks. Sunagakure is the best.​
 

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Hashirama - Konoha
Madara - Konoha
Naruto - Konoha
Sasuke - Konoha
Itachi - Konoha
Obito - Konoha
Hiruzen - Konoha

oh Lol
 

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Hashirama - Trained by Senju ninja before Konoha existed
Madara - Trained by Uchiha before Konoha existed
Naruto - Trained by Legendary Sannin and still didn't get his Chakra nature for 3 years
Sasuke - Trained by Orochimaru
Itachi - Anbu + trained by Uchiha Shisui.
Obito - Are you ****ing kidding? trained by Madara.
Hiruzen - Trained by Hashirama/Tobirama.

oh Lol


Fixed it for you, lmao.
 

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Its a shame that tsunade would get speedblitzed by both Sasuke and Naruto.
 

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Its a shame that tsunade would get speedblitzed by both Sasuke and Naruto.

I'm not sure what the hell this has to do with this thread but.... I agree?

Anyway..
I guess Minato was "Trained by Konoha" that's 1 good Ninja.
 

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Strongest in the manga are from konoha

"From Konoha" and trained in Konoha are completely different.

Madara/Hashirama FORMED the hidden leaf, so obviously they weren't trained there.
Sasuke was trained by Orochimaru/himself, for the most part.
Naruto was trained by Jiraiya anywhere but the hidden leaf..
 

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Hashirama - Trained by Senju ninja before Konoha existed
Madara - Trained by Uchiha before Konoha existed
Naruto - Trained by Legendary Sannin and still didn't get his Chakra nature for 3 years; still beats kakuzu after learning it prior to the fight, and was able to hold his own against Orochimaru, Kabuto, and only has 1 technique that uses wind release since his main jutsu does not need chakra natures to be mixed into it
Sasuke - Trained by Orochimaru, who is from konoha
Itachi - Anbu + trained by Uchiha Shisui, who are all from konoha
Obito - Are you ****ing kidding? trained by Madara and minato, and Madara was too old to train him so Obito trained himself, Madara only influenced his ideals
Hiruzen - Trained by Hashirama/Tobirama; who were the leaders of Konoha when he was a child
Minato - trained by Jiraiya and was regarded as one of Konoha's best before his death, also one of the fastest ninjas
Kakashi - trained by Minato, fought alongside others against tailed beasts, has beaten Obito and has multiple chakra nature
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sorry made some edits
 

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"From Konoha" and trained in Konoha are completely different.

Madara/Hashirama FORMED the hidden leaf, so obviously they weren't trained there.
Sasuke was trained by Orochimaru/himself, for the most part.
Naruto was trained by Jiraiya anywhere but the hidden leaf..

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you got a point there seems konoha teachers dont train ninjas for their nature affinity until jounin rank.
 

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Konoha blows, fullstop.

Sasuke wouldn't be where he is right now without his Uchiha blood and basic training from his clan , which was further refined by boss Orochimaru.

He also did a lot of training by himself (off screen and in fillers).

I don't see anything from gaynoha here.
 
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Konaha overall have some of the best ninja.

Developing them i agree is a bit slow. From the start they should very well have assessed with new how should i say 'military force' their strength weaknesses. For plot's sake we had to see naruto develop tbh.

If you weren't in a clan you are basically on your own tbh. at least the clan members know some jutsu other than the basic academy stuff.

Sakura is a prime example of the non-clan ninja. Thank god for Tsunade, she might not be a beastly ninja. But at least now she can do more than hold kunai infront of the enemy.
 

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Naruto just wasn't paying attention most likely.

He wasn't exactly a star student.
 

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I only feel offended because Tobirama said it.

Konoha blows, fullstop.

Sasuke wouldn't be where he is right now without his Uchiha blood and basic training from his clan , which was further refined by boss Orochimaru.

He also did a lot of training by himself (off screen and in fillers).

I don't see anything from gaynoha here.

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Naruto just wasn't paying attention most likely.

He wasn't exactly a star student.

But the other k11 didn't even get a Chakra nature lol, Shikamaru is forever using his Clan tech and so is everyone else.
 

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Either way.. Trained in or out, you rep that village till the day you die. Kakashi, Guy, Tsunade, 3rd Hokage, Asuma(R.I.P).. Why did the leaf get stomped so bad against Pain? Because it's Pain.. Any of those beast the Akatsuki had caught, could have easily crip walk over the village they dwell in/near. Dei- Sasuke was from the village.. Live with it. Without Kakashi teaching him chidori, he would still be using nothing more then fire style jutsu. It don't matter how long it takes to get to a certain goal, aslong as you make it there. All that has been done in the leaf, made Naruto into a greater ninja. I put money on the leaf being able to stop just about any other village out there without the help of plot.
 

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Still better than the other villages.

Still better than other villages? Please tell that to the Lightning village.

Third Raikage, 4th Raikage, the first perfect Jinchuuriki B, the gold and silver bros, and even their assistants are better than the konoha fodders.
 
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Your whole argument is only based in when Naruto discovered his chakra Nature.

Does this make sense to you?

Not every single shinobi have to be an elemental type, there are other skills that are useful in both battle and support that not require any chakra type.
 
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