How strong is Naruto's Bijuudama?

[Nympho]

pretty damn strong to take on the other 5 tailed beasts combined power.

 

[Misconception]

The 2nd scan is strong enough to destroy meteors.

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The meteor fits inside that explosion and half it's size is what Naruto's tbb will do alone. BM has the firepower to break PS from that 1 scan. Is PS had greater power than the Bijuus then Madara wouldn't need a Bijuu to fight Hashirama when he had PS. People seem to forget that simple logic there. The strongest Uchiha needed a Bijuu to fight Hashirama when he has PS. Hashirama did have Bijuus 2-8 but did he use them? No. Prime Hashirama had Bijuus 2-9 while Suna had 1 tails.

Your over using the word needed here... Im pretty sure he didn't need Kurama to stand up to Hashirama i mean Perfect Susanoo swords alone were slice through the buddha's arms like a knife through butter... Also even after the Tbb went off the explosion covered both Ps and Shinsuusenju so we can assume Ps tanked those Bijuudama's just like Shinsuusenju... Also it took plenty of punches aswell...

 

[KingHashirama]

I know PS is Bijuu level but that doesn't mean it equals or surpass the higher level Bijuus in power wise which is what many believe. A and Kisame are said to have chakra on Bijuu level, are you going to say he's equal to Kurama? This is the concept I hear from people. Just because PS is on Bijuu level doesn't make it's power equal to or greater than Kuramas or the 8 tails. Hashirama wasn't fighting to kill until the end of the fight from what I'll saw, he keep trying to talk Madara down and even said he didn't want to kill him which started to provoke Madara who said you think yo can kill me whenever you want and Hashirama said no, they shouldn't be fighting but we know Hashirama could have killed him whenever he wanted, Hashirama had Bijuus under his power as well that he didn't have to use.

I believe it's the Rinnegan that gives them the power to surpass Bijuus in power, not the EMS or lower.

Chakra is something that grows. Destruction scale is not something that keeps growing it has a limit and size to it. PS can slash the Bijuu damas in half with its slashes.. will you then claim that PS isn't on the same level?


And yes I know Hashirama didn't have the intent to kill Madara until the very end. But the point is Kurama and PS individually did not make Hashirama go SM.. it was their combination.

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[-Punk-]

Shinra Tensai levels ? I doubted , but it is pretty OP .

 

[GenKiDama]

Weak enough that goku and friends Use it for volley ball.

 

[xxSAGExx]

So because his PS is stronger than any other bijuu he doesn't need Kurama? Logic

Meant If* not Is, I corrected it haha. I only meant that if PS was in fact equal to high level Bijuus in power then he wouldn't need Bijuu to fight Hashirama. Bijuus are the Ultimate form of chakra. Kurama was said to have near limitless chakra which can be poured into his attacks or his Jinchuuriki's jutsus powering them up even more. BM Naruto tbb was more destructive than PS slash. Sasuke is compared to Madara while Naruto is compared to Hashirama and the Sage, they're not going to stay equal forever.

 

[November]

With another half kyuubi's chakra, Naruto is probably town or multi-town buster at best.

 

[rifkiyazid]

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[Misconception]

Chakra is something that grows. Destruction scale is not something that keeps growing it has a limit and size to it. PS can slash the Bijuu damas in half with its slashes.. will you then claim that PS isn't on the same level?


And yes I know Hashirama didn't have the intent to kill Madara until the very end. But the point is Kurama and PS individually did not make Hashirama go SM.. it was their combination.

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Actually no this is what happend...

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You can clearly see Ps is still there only half of ps is missing...

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Ps only faded away because Madara jumped off of Kurama's head...

 

[xxSAGExx]

Chakra is something that grows. Destruction scale is not something that keeps growing it has a limit and size to it. PS can slash the Bijuu damas in half with its slashes.. will you then claim that PS isn't on the same level?


And yes I know Hashirama didn't have the intent to kill Madara until the very end. But the point is Kurama and PS individually did not make Hashirama go SM.. it was their combination.

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That's why I said it can most likely cut a rapid fired tbb but not a charged one, since the Bijuu can power up their tbb even more to where PS can't slash it. It will be like a sword trying to cut a huge ball of metal. I agreed PS is on Bijuu level but not that's it's equal to Kurama's power which matched the power of 5 fully powered Bijuus and that's half it's power. The destruction of the tbb does grow tho, look at the Rseangan, Giant Oodama Rasengan damage is far greater than a Rasengan and the Rasengans are based off of the tbb.

Madara wasn't using Kurama's full powers tho, it takes a jinchuuriki to focus the Bijuu's power. Hashirama wasn't as worried with the Juubi as e was with Juubito cause of this reason. I don't doubt that Sasuke can fight on Naruto's level, far from it but Naruto's power is going to be stronger than Sasuke's and Kishi has been foreshadowing it since Kage summit arc. Obito first compares Naruto to Hashirama then in the War Tobirama compares Naruto to Hashirama 3x and calls him even more stupid 1x so that can be 4x if you count that and the Bijuu's compared Naruto to the Sage so Naruto is suppose to be getting stronger. The most Sasuke got was one day surpassing Madara.

I believe Sasuke needs the Rinnegan or the older Son of the Sage eyes before being on the Power level Naruto will soon come to be at. Getting Yin Kurama plus whatever power up that makes him like the Sage (if that happens) is just too much.

 

[Commander Axe]

Like someone stated above, pretty much as strong or even stronger than Shinra Tensei

 

[-Best-]

bijju dhama is too much OP...It can easily break off a perfect susano.!

 

[DeathandHealing]

Ok 1 the logic is Failed

Look at the size of the blast. if you didn't notice those are MOUNTAINS behind them. ( Check the anime and pause it )
That Massive area they are fighting in isn't even the size of a mountain. It's a tiny circle on the map.

A Nuke Levels a city, Not half a country.

That blast against the other 6 Bijuus was well over 100 miles wide. And they were zoomed back far enough to pretty much see the size of an entire state. So yeah That blast itself was larger than the rock madara dropped. That rock was the size of a large city. narutos blast was the size of a frigging state+ when it exploded.

The show doesn't do a good enough job showing it to be that big. If an entire mountain range looks like the size of a tree then the blast should have killed them all, or screwed the the entire planet.

That's why I made a topic before saying " Why don't they blow up the moon?" Because that's well over enough energy to blow it clear out of the sky. it takes only a rocket and jet fuel to make it there. Im sure a Bijuu bomb with the power of 100+ nukes could easily make it happen.

 

[YellowFang]

Maybe Juubi's average TBB level...

 

[KingHashirama]

Actually no this is what happend...

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You can clearly see Ps is still there only half of ps is missing...

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Ps only faded away because Madara jumped off of Kurama's head...

Is this a joke?? . Madara jumped off because PS faded away.. do not get the chronological order messed up here.

Clearly you didn't read the part where he says "susanoo was removed"...

 

[Misconception]

Is this a joke?? . Madara jumped off because PS faded away.. do not get the chronological order messed up here.

Clearly you didn't read the part where he says "susanoo was removed"...

No he jumped off because Susanoo was half bodied and if he would of stayed on Kurama he would have been in close combat with Hashirama while he was on the mokujin which would have been fatal... Actually Ps faded away because he jumped off not to mention he was low on chakra...

He needed to keep the chakra he had left to fight Hashirama instead of keeping up a half bodied ps which would have done little to no damage to Shinsuusenju without a blade...

 

[Champ]

Weaker than the Original Kyuubi

 

[Bogard]

He is country buster via calculations

 

[P3ĮÑ]

A causal TBB is 4 gigatons

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His single powered TBB should be in the low end terraton range

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[Aya San]

A causal TBB is 4 gigatons

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His single powered TBB should be in the low end terraton range

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I trust P3IN, he takes calculations seriously

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