Misconception about EMS regarding Izanagi & Izanami

[DeadManWonderLand]

The EMS does not save your eyes from being sealed away by either izanagi or izanami

It saves you from the deteriorating effects of blindness brought upon by the MS.

Izanagi & Izanami are kinjustu that seal the powers of the eye it is cast from forever.

It is an entire separate matter from the the debilitating effects of the MS


If you are one of the people who knew this already then obviously this is not aimed at you

 

[VongolaX]

At first that's what i thought until i remembered this:

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Later we see Madara alive again

 

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exactly since izanagi can be casted with 3t sharigan its not a ms tech so the ems eye doesnt stop it sealing it away

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

At first that's what i thought until i remembered this:

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Later we see Madara alive again

because he used izanagi



when we meet him later on he has only 1 eye and he mentions having spares.

If that were the case madara could of spammed it during the entire fight


Being or going blind is not the same as sealing them away for a kinjustu

 

[- J AV -]

At first that's what i thought until i remembered this:

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Later we see Madara alive again

But this dosen't proves that madara used Izanagi

 

[HiddenSound]

At first that's what i thought until i remembered this:

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Later we see Madara alive again

Could that not have been a pre-cast Sharingan Genjutsu?
And if that was Izanagi, why not kill Hashirama right after he "died" there? That's what he set out to do, gaining his power comes second.

 

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because he used izanagi



when we meet him later on he has only 1 eye and he mentions having spares.

If that were the case madara could of spammed it during the entire fight

However, he unlocked the rinnegan. If he had only one eye after the battle, then he would only have one eye with rinnegan. If you know what I mean. The spares would be useless in this case. Plus we see him with both ems intact when edo.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

exactly since izanagi can be casted with 3t sharigan its not a ms tech so the ems eye doesnt stop it sealing it away

Some people don't understand that its being sealed away.

That is a different matter.

The user is willingly sealing the eye to use the kinjustu

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

However, he unlocked the rinnegan. If he had only one eye after the battle, then he would only have one eye with rinnegan. If you know what I mean. The spares would be useless in this case. Plus we see him with both ems intact when edo.

Kabuto brought madara back in his prime.

And to unlock the rinengan you need senju dna and ucchiha dna.

There is no need for a ems to obtain one those are just latter stages of the sharingan.

There not required.

 

[VongolaX]

because he used izanagi



when we meet him later on he has only 1 eye and he mentions having spares.

If that were the case madara could of spammed it during the entire fight


Being or going blind is not the same as sealing them away for a kinjustu

Good he used inzangi and he awakened the rinnegan several years later after

implanting his two eyes into nagato.

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He got the spare after he gave away his real eyes


It's like people on this base doesn't read chapter 606 anymore

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

But this dosen't proves that madara used Izanagi

True it was just the most likely justu that could of saved him.

Your right it doesn't have to be izanagi.

 

[VongolaX]

But this dosen't proves that madara used Izanagi

Then what did he use?

The body is right there on floor, so you know it's not a genjustu

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Good he used inzangi and he awakened the rinnegan several years later after

implanting his two eyes into nagato.

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He got the spare after he gave away his real eyes


It's like people on this base doesn't read chapter 606 anymore

How does that even begin to make sense ? So he gave both his eyes away then got another set of eyes ?

Yeah,blind madara walking around taking uchiha eyes.


I swear does anyone even use common sense anymore ?

 

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Kabuto brought madara back in his prime.

And to unlock the rinengan you need senju dna and ucchiha dna.

There is no need for a ems to obtain one those are just latter stages of the sharingan.

There not required.

Still doesn't explain how Nagato was given two rinnegan eyes instead of one. If the eye is sealed beforehand, then it will remain sealed and not change to rinnegan. However, we see that Nagato did have two two both of which were unsealed.

For example:

2 ems + SDNA = 2 Rinnegan eyes.

1 ems + 1 sealed eye + SDNA = 1 Rinnegan + 1 sealed eye.

Therefore, I don't think that it was izanagi.

Fun fact, we see that the person's body disappears when izanagi is used (Danzo). Madara's remained there.

 

[- J AV -]

Then what did he use?

The body is right there on floor, so you know it's not a genjustu

something else, I don't know.... But Not Izanagi for sure also, He implanted both eyes With rinnegan into nagato,,,
If he would have used izanagi , then one eye blind , No pair of rinnrgan.. It must be Powerful Genjutsu which comes with EMS,

 

[- J AV -]

True it was just the most likely justu that could of saved him.

Your right it doesn't have to be izanagi.

Yes I think he may have Trump card when he fought hashi

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Still doesn't explain how Nagato was given two rinnegan eyes instead of one. If the eye is sealed beforehand, then it will remain sealed and not change to rinnegan. However, we see that Nagato did have two two both of which were unsealed.

For example:

2 ems + SDNA = 2 Rinnegan eyes.

1 ems + 1 sealed eye + SDNA = 1 Rinnegan + 1 sealed eye.

Therefore, I don't think that it was izanagi.

Fun fact, we see that the person's body disappears when izanagi is used (Danzo). Madara's remained there.

EMS is not required for the rinnegan

Listen your argument depends soley on the fact that madra had his EMS eyes still

Guess what ems is not required for a rinnegan.
Only senju and uchiha dna.

Madara said obito might be able to unlock the rinnegan but,it doesn't always happen.

Now tell me how was madara expecting a possible rinnegan from obito if he did not have an ems ?


Here he says powers of both,then he mentions that he gave him the senju dna and then goes on to say even if you don't awaken it meaning there is still a chance because not even madara gained it at first.

Its just DNA

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[FubukiShirou]

How does that even begin to make sense ? So he gave both his eyes away then got another set of eyes ?

Yeah,blind madara walking around taking uchiha eyes.


I swear does anyone even use common sense anymore ?

Are you stupid? He said he had spare eyes which MEANS HE HAD THEM BEFORE he could just get a medic to implant them.

 

[VongolaX]

How does that even begin to make sense ? So he gave both his eyes away then got another set of eyes ?

Yeah,blind madara walking around taking uchiha eyes.


I swear does anyone even use common sense anymore ?

How about you read what the manga says for once?

It literally says that Madara transplanted his REAL EYES INTO NAGATO BEFORE WHEN HE WAS STILL A BOY WITHOUT EVEN REALIZING IT.

Madara didn't walk around blind, he has former clans man that died a while ago.

He can obtain a sharingan from that, use freakin common sense for once

 

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EMS is not required for the rinnegan

Listen your argument depends soley on the fact that madra had his EMS eyes still

Guess what ems is not required for a rinnegan.
Only senju and uchiha dna.

Madara said obito might be able to unlock the rinnegan but,it doesn't always happen.

Now tell me how was madara expecting a possible rinnegan from obito if he did not have an ems ?

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You obviously can't read.

Yes I agree ems isn't required.

What I'm saying is that if he used izanagi then he would have one sealed eye right? Can you read this far?

So when he transplants SDNA in himself then only one eye would become rinnegan (doesn't have to be ems) because the other eye is sealed because of izanagi.

This the eye doesn't become unsealed. If he did use izanagi then Nagato would have only received one rinnegan eye.

If you can't comprehend this then you're an idiot.

Here is an update version without ems requirement that you're crying about:

2 uchiha eyes + SDNA = 2 Rinnegan eyes.

1 unsealed uchiha eye + 1 sealed uchiha eye + SDNA = 1 Rinnegan eye + 1 sealed eye.

There, I hope you will be able to read this. Though I think you already have your mind made up and will be arrogant like everyone else on this useless forum.