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madara arrogance isnt facts he was just wanking his ps if it destroyed creation it self how did hashirama beat him then?

Because he had a even bigger WMD?Hashirama and Madara were the only two shinobi with the ability to alter the landscape on a grand scale.
 

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You're taking Madara's statement to literal.
What madara said is basically a cool way of saying "If you get hit by this, You're fucked". it doesn't actually break all creation, Hell even hashirama blocked the sword.

Again Hashirama is way more OP than Madara.
 

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You're taking Madara's statement to literal.
What madara said is basically a cool way of saying "If you get hit by this, You're fucked". it doesn't actually break all creation, Hell even hashirama blocked the sword.

i don't think so.
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look at the size of the sword and then look at the damage it caused.
i made a theory about Perfect susanoo's sword (read it and you will understand what madara said might be true)

1.Perfect susanoo have the power to break all matter
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first it appears like shock wave but it's not.
That power came from the rikudou sennin and I will explain what it is.

2.Rikudou sennin was the origin of the uchiha's abilities and senju too.
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The original power was yin-yang release (yin to create physical shape and yang to give life to it ) and the bijuus are a perfect example.

3.Rikudou divided his powers into two and gave his elder son the yin power and the younger the yang power
the elder son descendant would be called uchiha and the younger's senju ( the uchiha inherit the yin power of their ancestor ).
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4. The uchiha can create anything from nothing in other words they can create physical shape from nothing (the susanoo is a perfect example).
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5. It is safe to assume that they can do the contrary in other words they can turn anything to nothing again and the prove of this is juubito's jutsu.
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Jubito is turning physical object into to nothing again .( He is using an uchiha abilities.)
some of you will say that it is a biju dama but shouldn't a bijuu dama explode when it hits something.

6.perfect susanoo can break any matter thanks to this power
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Anything that susanoo cut is made into pieces (even water or gas but in this case it would simple be made to nothing)

7. Matter commonly exists in four states (or phases): solid, liquid and gas, and plasma and all object we see in naked eye are matter, in other
words chakra is matter (every thing that exist in naruto is matter)

8.some of you will say that he was using omyodon (yin-yang)
if thats the case than the 2nd hokage and hiruzen would be dead
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Because he had a even bigger WMD?Hashirama and Madara were the only two shinobi with the ability to alter the landscape on a grand scale.

that doesnt change the fact that madara was over wanking the sword of susanoo. the sword of susanoo is powerful but it doesnt disintegrate matter.
 

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that doesnt change the fact that madara was over wanking the sword of susanoo. the sword of susanoo is powerful but it doesnt disintegrate matter.

It obliterated mountaintops....manga facts are on my side here.
 

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madara arrogance isnt facts he was just wanking his ps if it destroyed creation it self how did hashirama beat him then?

look at the size of shinsuusenju
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it doesn't matter if you have the power to break all creation ,i mean you can break (disintegrate) all you want and shinsuusenju will still be operational
 

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i don't think so.
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look at the size of the sword and then look at the damage it caused.
i made a theory about Perfect susanoo's sword (read it and you will understand what madara said might be true)

1.Perfect susanoo have the power to break all matter
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first it appears like shock wave but it's not.
That power came from the rikudou sennin and I will explain what it is.

2.Rikudou sennin was the origin of the uchiha's abilities and senju too.
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The original power was yin-yang release (yin to create physical shape and yang to give life to it ) and the bijuus are a perfect example.

3.Rikudou divided his powers into two and gave his elder son the yin power and the younger the yang power
the elder son descendant would be called uchiha and the younger's senju ( the uchiha inherit the yin power of their ancestor ).
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4. The uchiha can create anything from nothing in other words they can create physical shape from nothing (the susanoo is a perfect example).
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5. It is safe to assume that they can do the contrary in other words they can turn anything to nothing again and the prove of this is juubito's jutsu.
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Jubito is turning physical object into to nothing again .( He is using an uchiha abilities.)
some of you will say that it is a biju dama but shouldn't a bijuu dama explode when it hits something.

6.perfect susanoo can break any matter thanks to this power
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Anything that susanoo cut is made into pieces (even water or gas but in this case it would simple be made to nothing)

7. Matter commonly exists in four states (or phases): solid, liquid and gas, and plasma and all object we see in naked eye are matter, in other
words chakra is matter (every thing that exist in naruto is matter)

8.some of you will say that he was using omyodon (yin-yang)
if thats the case than the 2nd hokage and hiruzen would be dead
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First off uchiha do not creat something from nothing. Susanoo is a manifestation of the users chakra. Susanoo comes from the users MS and it's just Given a physical form using the users chakra. If uchiha could create anything from nothing then they wouldn't only be limited to Susanoo but they are.

Obito's jutsu comes from combining 4/5 elements since he has the rinnegan and was the juubi's host, it has nothing to do with him being uchiha since hiruzen already stated it's similar to jinton.

Jinton turns anything to nothing simply because of it's ability to manipulate molecules, Madara's susanoo has no such effects. If it did the mountains that PS cut would vanish and disintegrate but they didn't, They only got damaged/Destroyed. Even in one of the scans out posted hashirama caught the sword with mokuton.

Mokuton is something within creation yet it was able to block this said "creation destroyer"
 

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It obliterated mountaintops....manga facts are on my side here.

omg dude the blade slashed through the mountain top did the mountain vanish into thin air no learn the difference between slash and obliterated. if the mountain was obliterated there would only be dust on precise cuts
 

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look at the size of shinsuusenju
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it doesn't matter if you have the power to break all creation ,i mean you can break (disintegrate) all you want and shinsuusenju will still be operational
with that image your simply contradicting your self if ps destroys all creation, shinsuusenju is a creation, how can a creation block something that destroys all creation?
 

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omg dude the blade slashed through the mountain top did the mountain vanish into thin air no learn the difference between slash and obliterated. if the mountain was obliterated there would only be dust on precise cuts

Can you name anything else that can cut mountains in two?Who cares if the mountains aren't dust since PS destroyed them anyway.
 

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Can you name anything else that can cut mountains in two?Who cares if the mountains aren't dust since PS destroyed them anyway.

*facepalm* the mere fact that the mountain is still there means it wasnt obliterated and the only reason the blade slashed through them was because it a large ass blade :rage: dude please learn what obliterating matter means. jinton turns matter into nothing ps slashes through it.
 

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Can you name anything else that can cut mountains in two?Who cares if the mountains aren't dust since PS destroyed them anyway.

Destroying mountains does not equal to be able to destroy all matter/creation.

Also the viz scan said it's able to smash all things in the universe and we know it can't.
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What?

op- no PS isnt needed to beat Oonki
 

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First off uchiha do not creat something from nothing. Susanoo is a manifestation of the users chakra. Susanoo comes from the users MS and it's just Given a physical form using the users chakra. If uchiha could create anything from nothing then they wouldn't only be limited to Susanoo but they are.

Obito's jutsu comes from combining 4/5 elements since he has the rinnegan and was the juubi's host, it has nothing to do with him being uchiha since hiruzen already stated it's similar to jinton.

Jinton turns anything to nothing simply because of it's ability to manipulate molecules, Madara's susanoo has no such effects. If it did the mountains that PS cut would vanish and disintegrate but they didn't, They only got damaged/Destroyed. Even in one of the scans out posted hashirama caught the sword with mokuton.

Mokuton is something within creation yet it was able to block this said "creation destroyer"
1. chakra already has a physical form, so giving chakra a physical form is impossible.
if susanoo was chakra Onoki would say : that enormous chakra monster have been stabilized and not that enormous monster's chakra.
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2. how do you know that the uchiha are only limited to susanoo because as far as i know we don't know nothing about the susanoo and the uchihas powers.
3. jiinton breaks things and susanoo's sword also breaks things but because is in a larger scale you could say that it's power is not as focus as jiiton
4.don't you watch ninja films (catch a sword with your hands)
 

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Those clones do not come close to the power of Ps.besides didn't madaras unstaabilized ps tank that jinton?

doesnt matter if they come closer it destroyed the susanoo didnt it? and unstablized ps didnt tank it because a large part of madara was destroyed until he regenerated and unstablized ps manifested.
 

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with that image your simply contradicting your self if ps destroys all creation, shinsuusenju is a creation, how can a creation block something that destroys all creation?

it didn't block susanoo's sword . susanoo sword + bijuu dama simple couldn't destroy all of it.(shinsuusenju)
there is limit to how much destruction you can cause with that sword.
 

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it didn't block susanoo's sword . susanoo sword + bijuu dama simple couldn't destroy all of it.(shinsuusenju)
there is limit to how much destruction you can cause with that sword.

then how can it destroy all matter if it plus a bijuudama couldnt destroy shinsuusenju? :|
 
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