Latest News on Uzumaki Theory (Thread By Me and Sir Derp Obito)

[3MESSIAH]

No.
Provide the Manga proof.

talking about a manga proof in a theory thread. that`s just damn...

 

[Young Vongola]

This is sad.

 

[Edo Odin]

Because they present it like it's fact.
If its a theory, they should act like its fact and should be prepared to back up their words with proof.

And until now, I was under the impression that they were aware of the fact that it's not a fact. However, I seem to have been wrong.​

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[End of Days]

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Do people intend to milk this idea till the end of the series?

 

[Flawž]

Indeed. Im inclined to believe the sage was the progenitor of the uzumaki clan or something along the lines of that.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Manga proof of that?

The fact Uzumaki are related to the Senju automatically relates them to the Uchiha. Therefore, whatever ties they ended up making more closely reside with the Senju.




More likely, the Uzumaki family has younger son ties.


1. Elder and Younger didn't form Uchiha and Senju: their DESCENDSNTS did.

2. Descendants is vague

3. Thus the plausibility of the Elder having off shoot clans of distant relation to what is considered the main descendants is plausible.

Most likely, we have a descendant of the Younger son who ended up branching away from the fighting of Elder and Younger. Forming Uzumaki.


Due to old familiar ties that are closer to Senju than Uchiha, they sided Senju.

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Because it is a logical certainty

So is you getting your smug face punched. But then, that's probably already happened.

 

[-immortal-]

Don't know why this thread is still made

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Indeed. Im inclined to believe the sage was the progenitor of the uzumaki clan or something along the lines of that.

And the Sage's mom


Unbeknownst to many, the Shinigami of the Reaper Death Seal is a woman:

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The Reaper is a Hannya Demon who are all females and solely females.

The Shinigami is also a priestess holding a prayer beads and reciting a prayer before commencing the sealing ritual:

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The Reaper's initial stance with it arms spread is a clerical/priestly stance:

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Like Rikūdou/Hagoromo's stance:

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It was established and well known by now that the Shiki Fūjin required Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Tablet as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper:

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It is because the Shiki Fūjin is Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Jutsu

and the Reaper is most probably Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, Rikūdo/Hagoromo's mother:

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As to why Kaguya became the Shinigami of the Shiki Fūjin, Kishimoto has not yet explained or revealed why, either as an end effect of eating the Shinju's fruit or as a mother's sacrifice to aid her son in fighting the Jūbi.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

OP ;- i agree with you BTW naruto said obito in 652 chapter that you're relative of sasuke not distant relative and that doesnt mean obito is really a relative of sasuke
if same rule applies to senju and uzumaki then uzumaki was called as distant relative then that means uzumaki was not from senju clan they are basically from S06P's original clan thats why they are distant relatives

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The fact Uzumaki are related to the Senju automatically relates them to the Uchiha. Therefore, whatever ties they ended up making more closely reside with the Senju.




More likely, the Uzumaki family has younger son ties.


1. Elder and Younger didn't form Uchiha and Senju: their DESCENDSNTS did.

2. Descendants is vague

3. Thus the plausibility of the Elder having off shoot clans of distant relation to what is considered the main descendants is plausible.

Most likely, we have a descendant of the Younger son who ended up branching away from the fighting of Elder and Younger. Forming Uzumaki.


Due to old familiar ties that are closer to Senju than Uchiha, they sided Senju.

Nope, insisting that the Uzumaki Clan descended from the Younger Son is a falsity, this is simply not true, one of the simplest reasons they couldn't is the Uzumaki Clan's trademark red hair.

We have here the Younger Son who clearly doesn't have red hair and was not stated to have such a trait, in fact if we look at the anime depiction, the hair color is black:

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And his descendants (Hashirama, Tsunade, Tobirama, Nawaki,etc.) didn't have red hair

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Then suddenly there's a "descendant" clan (Uzumaki) of the Younger Son whose pure blooded members (Naruto is half) all have red hair??? impossible. Obviously the Uzumakis like ancient clans practice "inbreeding" that they have always had red hair:

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Taking Biology into account, hair is one of the most consistent genes, and having the same color of hair in a clan who inbreeds is true. It doesn't make sense that a "descending" clan could develop such an unorthodox hair color if the original hair color was a different color. And red hair in itself is a recessive gene in humans.

So expect the Ohzuzukis to be redheads Lol

 

[Xāvî1]

alright - Here is some facts

While Obito was known as tobi - we flamed each other without scans. afterwards it was proven tobi was obito.
2nd Madara's Rinnegan theory- Without scans and proof we flamed each other. same here afterwards it was proven.

Same will happen with the Uzumaki clan. you guys can come back to me and Derp latter, saying sorry.

There is another proof also - Why did madara give his eyes to uzumaki rather than a senju member, Or a uchiha member.

Answer is simple you need both bloods (senju and Uchiha) to control the rinnegan. Madara also said obito can control the mazou without the rinnegan that is because he is half senju and half uchiha.

 

[Raekwon26]

talking about a manga proof in a theory thread. that`s just damn...

Hold up.......... what's this?

Because it is a logical certainty

Someones looking stupid now.....

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

i think 2nd one .

 

[Klad]

Hold up.......... what's this?



Someones looking stupid now.....

Why is the name of Sir Derp Obito written on your sig ?

Just saiyan'

 

[Kairos]

Manga already said otherwise, give up already. This theory sucks donkey balls anyways. Kishi probably won't reveal much more about the Sage anyway so this theory is a big fail.

 

[-immortal-]

Why is the name of Sir Derp Obito written on your sig ?

Just saiyan'

he is One alt :O

 

[Flawž]

And the Sage's mom


Unbeknownst to many, the Shinigami of the Reaper Death Seal is a woman:

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The Reaper is a Hannya Demon who are all females and solely females.

The Shinigami is also a priestess holding a prayer beads and reciting a prayer before commencing the sealing ritual:

You must be registered for see images

The Reaper's initial stance with it arms spread is a clerical/priestly stance:

You must be registered for see images

Like Rikūdou/Hagoromo's stance:

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It was established and well known by now that the Shiki Fūjin required Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Tablet as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper:

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It is because the Shiki Fūjin is Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Jutsu

and the Reaper is most probably Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, Rikūdo/Hagoromo's mother:

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As to why Kaguya became the Shinigami of the Shiki Fūjin, Kishimoto has not yet explained or revealed why, either as an end effect of eating the Shinju's fruit or as a mother's sacrifice to aid her son in fighting the Jūbi.

This is actually very interesting and plausible indeed.

I always wondered why the Reaper was a female, Maybe this is why. Good find.

 

[Raekwon26]

Why is the name of Sir Derp Obito written on your sig ?

Just saiyan'

He gave me the Sig in a VM.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The coefficient of blood relationships in Genealogy states that holistically two clans/families descending from the same apical ancestor are close blood relatives, and an off-shoot clan would even make their consanguinity even more approximate, so the Uzumakis can never be a descendant of the Younger Son or an off-shoot of the Senjus because they are holistically only distant blood relatives.