[Theory]Why Sasuke didn't run out of chakra vs the kages and co.

[Tera Path]

Sorry guys i won't be getting any manga scans because i don't know what chapters they are >.>


Sasuke first used his MS techniques against fodder samurais which is an incredible waste of chakra.
Especially taking into consideration that MS techniques take a heavy toll on you if you do not posses senju DNA or if you don't posses the EMS.

So........ he used Amaterasu on Samurais.........
Afterwards he fought Ay, in which he used Susano'o ribcage + Amaterasu a couple times.....
He also got hit pretty hard................

Afterwards after Gaara saves him etc. and it ends up with the Mizukage going for Sasuke too we can see how Zetsu
was absorbing chakra from them and giving it to Sasuke.
He also got healed a bit by Karin.


Fast forward a bit and we're and Sasuke vs Danzo............

Sasuke uses his Susano'o v2......... wastes a ton of arrows and is still going on, used a chidori and genjutsu........

Fastforward some more and Danzo is dead, and Hes VS. Kakashi........... he uses 1 Susano'o arrow, which got warped away by Kakashi w/kamui.

And he is still in Susano'o v2, and goes into final MS STAGE Susano'o.
Runs out of chakra afterwards.

So...... now we get off here and we go back to my explaining.
We know that Zetsu could give Sasuke more chakra........
And Obito put 6 Zetsus on him to watch over him.........
I wouldn't be surprised if Zetsu was giving Sasuke some chakra over the entire fight.....
So, what do you guys think?

 

[tripol]

Dont think so because the Kages didn't continue noticing their chakra drain after Sasuke left with Obito.

 

[LORD TAPATIO]

I think its called plot shield haha

 

[Tera Path]

Dont think so because the Kages didn't continue noticing their chakra drain after Sasuke left with Obito.

It could be Zetsu's own chakra...... it doesn't HAVE to be the Kages their chakra.

I think its called plot shield haha

I have put a reason for this plot shield to not be such an ass-pull.

Unlike Obito becoming the Jin of the 10 tails...........

 

[Vegeto30294]

Amateasu on Samurai
Susano'o on Raikage
Susano'o + Amaterasu on Raikage
Susano'o on Gaara & Friends
Susano'o on Mei

Then Zetsu healed him

Considering Sasuke only felt the drain of Susano'o when he faced off against Mei, it doesn't take up that much chakra like Itachi using Tsukiyomi more than 3 times. The Amaterasu's were probably the real drain (especially Enton)

Fodderized by Onoki

Then Healed by Karin

Then Danzo fight:

Susano'o everywhere
One Amaterasu
One Summoning technique
One Fireball Technique
Two Chidoris (One was after being healed by Karin)
Two Low-class Genjutsus

Summoning Jutsu, Katon, Chidori, and Genjutsu are moot, he can do those all day.
Leaving Susano'o and One Amaterasu, after being healed by Karin.

I don't think its he biggest stretch he was able to pull it off.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

He didn't use me techs against samurais it was against raikage but he dodged n black fire hit him. Juugo n Sasuke were killing samurai in base form will juubi half sage Sasuke sharingan no ms tech was purposely used towards samurai

 

[Paintry4]

Yeah it was a long fight. It might have drained him. Zetsu healed him but its only the time with oonoki and mei. After that karin healed him. Ah! Kishimoto is showing great stamina for sasuke.....

 

[Bronze]

He ran out of stamina. Not chakra.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

He didn't use me techs against samurais it was against raikage but he dodged n black fire hit him. Juugo n Sasuke were killing samurai in base form will juubi half sage Sasuke sharingan no ms tech was purposely used towards samurai

This guy has some of my thoughts:

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While Jūgo initially appeared quite bloodthirsty, Karin noted that this was only common behaviour when he was enraged; Jūgo himself didn't want to kill anyone and in reality he is a very gentle person. His fits of rage are random, and thus are the reason why he willingly remains confined. The only reason he agreed to go with Sasuke is because he views Sasuke as the only person capable of preventing him from killing people while enraged, by the means of killer intent or the Sharingan. Before Sasuke, it was Kimimaro who kept Jūgo in check, and as Kimimaro was the only person Jūgo came into any contact with, the two grew close. After hearing that Kimimaro sacrificed his life to deliver Sasuke to Orochimaru, Jūgo believes that Kimimaro's spirit continues to live on in Sasuke, and thus is completely loyal to him, even after Taka had been disbanded, and Sasuke left them in the Land of Iron, Jūgo made his way back to Sasuke and matter-of-factly noted when asked, that his place was beside Sasuke as his shield.

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Like other members of his clan, Jūgo possesses the ability known as Sage Transformation which allows him to use the natural energy he absorbs to transform his body at will. He can change what form he takes almost instantly and can isolate the transformation to specific parts of his body. Also due to this, Jūgo's possesses massive reserves of powerful chakra. However, because he absorbs natural energy constantly, he and his clansmen are prey to sporadic and involuntary surges of rage.

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[Amaterasuice]

The reason he could was Sasuke's stamina was at least 1 point higher than Itachi's. I say at least because Sasuke could've improved by then, Itachi was sick so it was probably not at full stamina anyway, etc.

 

[VongolaX]

Uchiha's don't run out of chakra, only stamina...

Look at all the chakra Sasuke wasted from being replenished by Karin/zetsu

Yet after he supposedly lost chakra, he boost a complete susanoo arrow at Kakashi and charge up to final form. <--pure chakra

Uchiha's just lack quality stamina unless you have ems

 

[VongolaX]

Amateasu on Samurai
Susano'o on Raikage
Susano'o + Amaterasu on Raikage
Susano'o on Gaara & Friends
Susano'o on Mei

Then Zetsu healed him

Considering Sasuke only felt the drain of Susano'o when he faced off against Mei, it doesn't take up that much chakra like Itachi using Tsukiyomi more than 3 times. The Amaterasu's were probably the real drain (especially Enton)

Fodderized by Onoki

Then Healed by Karin

Then Danzo fight:

Susano'o everywhere
One Amaterasu
One Summoning technique
One Fireball Technique
Two Chidoris (One was after being healed by Karin)
Two Low-class Genjutsus

Summoning Jutsu, Katon, Chidori, and Genjutsu are moot, he can do those all day.
Leaving Susano'o and One Amaterasu, after being healed by Karin.

I don't think its he biggest stretch he was able to pull it off.

Only got healed by Karin once during the Danzo fight

 

[Draphsin]

Its because Mangekyou sharingan jutsus do not cost much chakra.

Sasuke was able to spam his MS until he went blind & still had enough chakra for chidori, this should prove that susanoo is not chakra costly but rather it actually damages your body & eyes.

 

[Bronze]

Its because Mangekyou sharingan jutsus do not cost much chakra.

Sasuke was able to spam his MS until he went blind & still had enough chakra for chidori, this should prove that susanoo is not chakra costly but rather it actually damages your body & eyes.

That's completely wrong. We already know its manga fact that Tsukyomi uses considerable amount of chakra stated by Kakashi, as well as Amatersu which is the counter part of Tsukyomi so same can be said about them.

Susanoo is manifestation of the user's chakra, and looking at the body construction of it, it defiantly takes more chakra than the 2 techniques.

 

[Draphsin]

That's completely wrong. We already know its manga fact that Tsukyomi uses considerable amount of chakra stated by Kakashi, as well as Amatersu which is the counter part of Tsukyomi so same can be said about them.

Kakashi made a guess based on how much chakra he saw Itachi build up.

Tsukuyomi is powerful, so the chakra build up seems like a lot because of its density.

Kakashi hasnt seen Itachi's chakra levels after he had used tsukutomi, therefore he does not know how much chakra was taken.

Susanoo is manifestation of the user's chakra, and looking at the body construction of it, it defiantly takes more chakra than the 2 techniques.

Susanoo is the manifestation of yin chakra, yin chakra is powerful & dense, it is not quantity he he possesses but rather quality.

 

[Bronze]

Kakashi made a guess based on how much chakra he saw Itachi build up.

Tsukuyomi is powerful, so the chakra build up seems like a lot because of its density.

Kakashi hasnt seen Itachi's chakra levels after he had used tsukutomi, therefore he does not know how much chakra was taken.

Draphsin, i am not sure if you're trying to say Kakashi is just idiot when the latter had been called a battle genius and the best at analysing. Fine allow me to show this [

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]. Itachi confirms that Kakashi's speculation was correct the fact that he even praises him. He also has sharingan that can see the build up chakra when jutsu is performed.

Therefore he wasn't speculating but telling a factU_U.

Susanoo is the manifestation of yin chakra, yin chakra is powerful & dense, it is not quantity he he possesses but rather quality.

Unless you're trying to suggest that Uchiha can only perform genjutsu when its incorrect. Ninjutsu is formed through spiritual energy and physical energy. Spiritual energy = Yin [

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]. Uchiha can perform Katon gokuyo no jutsu. A fire technique regarding as ninjutsu. You're basically saying uchiha can only perform genjutsu, and proven false by the explanation of chakra.

Susanoo is ninjutsu of Yin Yang. Also looking at your post, you lack understanding of quality and quantity. Powerful chakra /=/ large chakra, therefore powerful jutsu /=/ large jutsu. Susanoo construction is large chakra which means it uses large chakra not powerful chakra.

 

[Draphsin]

Draphsin, i am not sure if you're trying to say Kakashi is just idiot when the latter had been called a battle genius and the best at analysing. Fine allow me to show this [

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]. Itachi confirms that Kakashi's speculation was correct the fact that he even praises him. He also has sharingan that can see the build up chakra when jutsu is performed.

Therefore he wasn't speculating but telling a factU_U.

I guess by your logic obito can use all the paths too.

Kakashi can be wrong, he isnt perfect, he makes deductions based on observations, how can he assume the amount of chakra that itachi used when he's never seen the actual amount afterwards? There is no telltale way & the sharingan can see the powerful chakra build up in itachi's eye.

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] Obito confirms that he can apparently use all the paths by saying kakashi has a good eye, does that mean he's right? Nope, he simply guessed that obito can't use the paths because he lacked the required chakra, this is untrue yet obito "confirms" it.

Unless you're trying to suggest that Uchiha can only perform genjutsu when its incorrect. Ninjutsu is formed through spiritual energy and physical energy. Spiritual energy = Yin [

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]. Uchiha can perform Katon gokuyo no jutsu. A fire technique regarding as ninjutsu. You're basically saying uchiha can only perform genjutsu, and proven false by the explanation of chakra.

When did I ever say that uchiha only use yin chakra??

Yin = spiritual energy, NOT genjutsu. Uchiha utilize yin chakra through their eyes, susanoo is a manifestation of spiritual energy, which is yin chakra. The definition of spiritual energy is the ability to create form from nothingness, yang is the ability to breathe life into form.

Chidori, katon, & those elemental nature jutsus are not the same thing as pure chakra, they are chakra with nature manipulation which can be translated as physical energy. Susanoo is simply chakra, nothing more or less.

Amaterasu is simply chakra too, chakra that is powerful enough to burn through anything.

Now lets look, naruto's

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chakra, resonated with yamato's mokuton, it breathed life into yamato's form.

Susanoo is form from nothingness, simply pure chakra. regular ninjutsu may require physical & spiritual energy but its apparent through the definition given by obito that uchiha only utilize yin through their eyes (dojutsu) [

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]. & on the flip side of that senju utilize yang chakra through the body (regenerative capabilities, mokuton).

Susanoo is ninjutsu of Yin Yang. Also looking at your post, you lack understanding of quality and quantity. Powerful chakra /=/ large chakra, therefore powerful jutsu /=/ large jutsu. Susanoo construction is large chakra which means it uses large chakra not powerful chakra.

Susanoo is not yin & yang, susanoo is simply pure chakra manifested. It is not a regular ninjutsu because regular ninjutsu incorporates yin & yang, the ability to breathe "life" into your chakra is the ability to use ninjutsu, susanoo is not living, nor is it incorporated with any form of nature, it has no trace of yang chakra within it.

& Powerful chakra is not equal to large chakra, I never said that it was...

Powerful chakra is why susanoo & amaterasu can burn & tank pretty much anything. They are powerful eye techniques, however uchiha (since their dojutsu only incorporates yin chakra) have a considerable amount of it. Their overall chakra reserves are normal though (which means that katon, raiton, etc all take the same amount of chakra as usual). Senju on the other hand simply have massive amounts of chakra, which is why they need SM in order to create enormous jutsus.

 

[Dantee]

There is no theory behind it. Sasukes stamina is just alot better than most make it out to be. This thread is a bit silly with no real evidence to back it up. No offense.

 

[-Punk-]

He did ran out tho , he used Amatarasu , Susano , Chidori on Gara , Ay , Mei , did lasted more than expected but still ran out , Zetsu had to give him some chakra. But i think it makes sense , since he was trying to end it quickly but couldn't .

 

[Rikudo Ero Sennin]

Dont think so