Did Obito hold back at the fight with Kakashi ?

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Or it was nerfed, Kakashi breaking Genjutsu that was able to control Yagura a perfect Jin? I don't think so.

Dojutsu like Sharingun or MS is powerfull
U can think as u wish but Kakashi breaked(Played) that genjutsu.
 

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Or it was nerfed, Kakashi breaking Genjutsu that was able to control Yagura a perfect Jin? I don't think so.

I would very much like to believe Obito > Kakashi in Genjutsu because of that, but there's a severe lack of details on what Genjutsu he used on Yagura.

For all we know, he could have led him into a trap which allows for easy mind control, or he could have done what he did to Fu & Torune and Kamui him first.

Unless you're Itachi:

Genjutsu in a non-fighting situation > Genjutsu in the middle of a fight.

Of course I could be 150% wrong and just making excuses
 

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Or it was nerfed, Kakashi breaking Genjutsu that was able to control Yagura a perfect Jin? I don't think so.

It was not nerfed. you didn't think that obito was on itachi and shisui's level in genjutsu did you?
 

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The funny thing is Obito admits that Kakashi could have killed him yet because he failed Obito got stronger...
 

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He was probably tired, I mean he had been fighting for long and Kakashi had been give a chakra cloak before the battle, Obito could have raped with Mokuton imo



a couple of times? no it was once and it was only because Naruto forced Obito into using Intangibility and so what? withought Naruto's assistance Obito also could have killed Kakashi multiples times before that fight too.

Whatever man, Kishi made parallel between the 2, he showed them as rivals fighting to the death, which is why he compared them as kids and now. It's why kishi restricted kamui and put them both in the kamui dimension. And kishi did it perfectly, he showed who the superior shinobi was, Taijutsu Kakashi was always better, Ninjutsu - Kakashi has over a thousand, and Obito's genjutsu won't work on Kakashi (it wouoldn't make sense anyway considering they have the same eyes).

And if you can't see that and just blame it on plot or handicaps then you obviously don't understand what kishi was trying to portray in that fight. In that case keep telling yourself otherwise, I don't really care because I read the manga and saw a winner of a fight of 2 powerful individuals fighting a fair fight.
 

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Kakashi owned him fair and square
 

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IMO Obito got mind ****ed by Kakashis TNJ and it made him to hurry back thinking he wont trouble him anymore after he got stabbed..he left saying "I wont let you win the war".Kakashi owned him anyways
 

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It was not nerfed. you didn't think that obito was on itachi and shisui's level in genjutsu did you?

Yagura's own Bijuu couldn't break him out of Obito's control but Kakashi could alone??? Yeah.....Okay, Keep telling yourself it wasn't nerfed

and yes I did, Controlling Kurama and Yagura, finding Nagato's body and keeping Danzo Guards under Genjutsu from the Kage Summit to the War >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything Itachi has done and the featless Shisui.
 

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Plot. All obito had to do was take away kakashi's soul via human path. GG
 

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U got so mad u deleted the vm

log off :)
 

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Plot. All obito had to do was take away kakashi's soul via human path. GG

This is why it was plot, obito used black rods that he's never even been shown to produce before when he had access to mokuton (which can restrain) & the rinnegan's human path. This should've been an endgame combo however kishi probably knew this & restricted them. :p
 

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Yagura's own Bijuu couldn't break him out of Obito's control but Kakashi could alone??? Yeah.....Okay, Keep telling yourself it wasn't nerfed

and yes I did, Controlling Kurama and Yagura, finding Nagato's body and keeping Danzo Guards under Genjutsu from the Kage Summit to the War >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything Itachi has done and the featless Shisui.

I see what you mean. but kishi made it his point to show that Itachi and shisui were the best. I agree with you that obito has shown better genjutsu feats though
 

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This is why it was plot, obito used black rods that he's never even been shown to produce before when he had access to mokuton (which can restrain) & the rinnegan's human path. This should've been an endgame combo however kishi probably knew this & restricted them. :p

Whole war is pretty much plot, IMO current obito is using %1 of his power from the juubi, realistically sasuke and naruto would had been dead a long time ago.
 

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Whole war is pretty much plot, IMO current obito is using %1 of his power from the juubi, realistically sasuke and naruto would had been dead a long time ago.

Agreed, I feel like that blitzing speed we saw iv V1 mode is gone..:(
 
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