Preta Path can absorb a bijuudama

[Touken]

Right, Preta Path can absorb a bijuudama but it probably would take a bit of time.

But the main point is, Preta Path can absorb a bijuudama if no external factors are involved. The main argument used is that 'the ratio would get messed up'; yeah, that makes no sense. I've used this explanation in a VS thread but I wanted to ge this out there: once a bijuudama is formed, it essentially becomes one molecule. All the reactants/substrates have reacted and thus become one product, so it's:
8 Positive Chakra atoms + 2 Negative Chakra atoms ------> bijuudama. Preta Path does not hydrolyse the reaction (split up the reaction) so therefore Gakido can absorb the product.

 

[Joker]

I thought this was obvious. It's ninjutsu isn't it?

 

[Bronze]

Yes Preta Path can absorb any form of TBB because the DB said that Preta Path can absorb any form of chakra.

The ratio of TBB wont change due to the fact that it has been balanced, preta path just simply absorbing them while they are balanced. I will post my thread in here for more explanation

 

[Made in Heaven]

[Hurp Durp] as if we didn't know

 

[Mitarashi]

It can absorb any Chakra based Ninjutsu.
So pretty much anything that isn't Gaara's sand/Iron/gold sand or Taijutsu :s

 

[thunderthehybrid]

how do you know that for sure?

 

[Touken]

It can absorb any Chakra based Ninjutsu.
So pretty much anything that isn't Gaara's sand/Iron/gold sand or Taijutsu :s

Madara absorbed Gaara's sand.

 

[amarusboobs]

Give that nigga a Bijuudama with a big dose of frog hermit sengutsu, he out like a rock!

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??

 

[Flawž]

Yes it can be done, But it would take a while for it to fully absorbed leaving the user open for an attack.

 

[Bronze]

Madara absorbed Gaara's sand.

no that's wrong. Gaara's sand is natural, Madara only absorbed the chakra infused with it:

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the sand was falling which indicates that chakra manipulating it was absorbed thus rendering the sand useless.

OT: anyway here is my thread:

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Preta path basically absorbs any form of chakra regardless of what it is and how it looks like. Now before people go off saying DB is full of contradictions and bring me other things that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, nothing in the manga nor DB has contradicted the fact that DB can absorb any jutsu nor chakra so it stays true as it is.

Tailed Beast Ball/Bijuu Dama

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as stated by Killer Bee, TBB is basically using white chakra and black chakra by gathering them around and compress to 8:2 and booooooom. It is the same thing as Rasengan. Killer Bee stated that Rasengan is based on how TBB works:

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we have basically seen that Preta path absorbed Rasengan and all forms of chakra:

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Preta Path absorbed FRS, Giant Rasengan even with SM, even Oil. The biggest prime example is that Preta Path can even absorb the pure Yang of Hachabi chakra:

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we already know that bijuu contain Life Force within their chakra and Preta Path even absorbed it. Preta path even absorbed hundreds of attacks as well as:

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There is also this great misconception is that Juubi TBB has Natural Energy within them. That's actually wrong. People think if Madara absorbed Juubi TBB, he will turn into stone.

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yes Juubi itself is Natural Energy and because of Natural Energy Preta Path would turn into stone:

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they think Madara would turn into a stone because he is absorbing Senjutsu within the TB from Juubi but that is wrong because the TBB are positive and negative meaning their chakra is same as rasengan and the way Juubi creating TBB is same way Rasengan and all bijuu do:

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so by that Preta Path can absorb TBB including Juubi's because they are pure chakra based and Preta Path can absorb any form of it.

Conclusion -Preta Path absorbs any form of chakra -TBB is Negative and Positive chakra -Juubi TBB is not Senjutsu -Preta Path Can Absorb it​

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[-R-]

But what if it had sage chakra in it ?

 

[RikudoKami]

No it won't "take a long time" Preta path absorbs very fast and has an unlimited capacity that it can absorb.

 

[Touken]

No it won't "take a long time" Preta path absorbs very fast and has an unlimited capacity that it can absorb.

Key word being 'probably'.

 

[siege]

There is a limit to how much chakra the preta path can absorb in a single shot even Madara said the rasenshuriken was almost to much although I don't think there's a limit on how much chakra it can absorb overall it would not be able to absorb bijuudama not in one sitting but I think the almighty push might be able to block it maybe

 

[Troyg39]

Right, Preta Path can absorb a bijuudama but it probably would take a bit of time.

But the main point is, Preta Path can absorb a bijuudama if no external factors are involved. The main argument used is that 'the ratio would get messed up'; yeah, that makes no sense. I've used this explanation in a VS thread but I wanted to ge this out there: once a bijuudama is formed, it essentially becomes one molecule. All the reactants/substrates have reacted and thus become one product, so it's:
8 Positive Chakra atoms + 2 Negative Chakra atoms ------> bijuudama. Preta Path does not hydrolyse the reaction (split up the reaction) so therefore Gakido can absorb the product.

I burst with laughter at the start of the bold.

Preta absorbs chakra. Bijuudama is chakra. Bijuudama gets absorbed.

Same point in 9 words.

The only argument that can made against this is whether or not preta path absorbs molecules by stripping away their atoms, thus destroying the chemical bonds that bind them. Just because a molecule is formed does not mean that the chemical bonds on the atoms can't be undone. If preta path absorbs ninjutsu by taking chakra atom by chakra atom, the bijuudama would likely explode before it's absorbed properly.

But seriously that's way too deep for a manga. Trust me I learned the hard way to try and leave science out of Naruto as much as possible. You open the door for way too many possibilities and end up overthinking it. I'm sure Kishi only added that chakra atom thing in just for the creation of bijuudama. I doubt he meant for the entire process of chakra to follow a full scientific model. Unless he puts out an elemental table for chakra ofcorse, now that would be something to see.

 

[Touken]

There is a limit to how much chakra the preta path can absorb in a single shot even Madara said the rasenshuriken was almost to much although I don't think there's a limit on how much chakra it can absorb overall it would not be able to absorb bijuudama not in one sitting but I think the almighty push might be able to block it maybe

'Too much energy' implying the attack was really dangerous and would have destroyed Madara's V1 Susanoo, which is why he had to resort to Gakido.

I burst with laughter at the start of the bold.

Preta absorbs chakra. Bijuudama is chakra. Bijuudama gets absorbed.

Same point in 9 words.

Honestly, I was just countering the whole 'ratio gets messed up' argument.

Also, I'm pretty sure Gakido doesn't affect the bonds, it literally just absorbs the bijuudama.

 

[Multiply]

If it's one form, and it starts being absorbed that means the chakra is being sepearated(Black and White). Madara can't possibly know it requires an 8:2 chakra ratio to create a beast bomb. Madara can't possibly decipher how much white and black chakra he's taking out of the tbb at any time. Saying he can is mere speculation. Saying he can't, however, makes perfect sense because you would need to gain that information from a bijuu in his life time. However, Madara was not really on speaking terms with any of the bijuu, so there's no actual way for him to know that.

The sharingan, or any variation can't see what the chakra is made of, it can merely see the chakra. Like in the Sasuke vs Deidara fight. Sasuke didn't know Deidara was releasing microscopic bugs until he was told, however, Sasuke saw the chakra signature being emitted from them, and acted accordingly. The same way Chakra nature can't be see by the sharingan. Sasuke had to rely on his knowledge of seals to know Deidara was primarily a doton user. The Sharingan merely sees chakra, not its make up. Keep saying Madara can choose the ratio in which he pulls out the chakra... Keep acting a fool. U_U

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[Troyg39]

Honestly, I was just countering the whole 'ratio gets messed up' argument.

Also, I'm pretty sure Gakido doesn't affect the bonds, it literally just absorbs the bijuudama.

If I sounded like a douche I didn't mean to so don't take what I said the wrong way. But there isn't anything to counter man. You can't counter it because you don't know exactly how preta absorbs it's chakra. That's what people who will really want to argue with you are going to say and you won't be able to prove them wrong. I don't think it effects the bonds either but at the same time I don't think Kishi meant to make every chakra-based attack to be the result of protons, electrons, and neutrons combing to make chakra atoms. I think he just added that in as a way to add effect to the ratio thing.

 

[Aya San]

Frs didn't explode, what gives tbb the right to?

 

[siege]

Well till we see a bijuudama absorbed no one can say for sure