[Discussion] Garp vs Sengoku

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[24 12 11 to troll]

I know that a lot of people will say Garp but I say the fight will never have a winner.

 

[Kuzan]

Sengoku is smarter, but Garp is stronger. I will give it to Garp though.

 

[Olorin]

the pirates had Roger and WB and the Marines had Garp and Sengoku XD

I am gonna say Garp though I can easily see the fight going on for weeks and with at least some chance that Sengoku can be victorious a few times out of 10

 

[SSS12]

Looking at the images, I'd go with Sengoku.
On a more serious note, Probably a tie.

 

[Super7]

Not a clue who'd win, haven't seen enough of what Garp can do and only a little of Sengoku, it's a fight I'd love to see though!

 

[Avinash012]

Will of D wins no dif.........

 

[ziggyZ]

Sengoku isn't as strong as many assume he is. And here's why: Because unlike his other 2 "partners" during Roger's era, he has yet to have an epithet regarding strength, nor has he even been revered for his strength. But he instead was acknowledged for his intelligence:

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Sengoku is renowned for his tactical and strategic genius by Marines and pirates alike: he is mainly responsible for all the Marine maneuvers deployed throughout the Whitebeard War at Marineford, such as forwarding a plan to all Marines that Portgas D. Ace was to be executed ahead of the official schedule with the intention that the opposing pirate forces would intercept the message and lose their composure; he then conspired with Admiral Akainu in a plot to derail the alliance between Whitebeard's core divisions and the 41 independent New World pirate crews assisting by directing a 20-strong Pacifista division to target only the non-Whitebeard division pirates, and it was possible that the earlier transmissions regarding Ace's true parentage was not only an act of public justification but also to demoralize those pirates who were undermined by the Roger Pirates: with Akainu's persuasion, Sengoku's plan managed to drive one of those captains to attempt assassinating Whitebeard himself, and while the blow was not fatal, it did further debilitate Whitebeard's already hazardous condition. He operated his strategies while keeping close in mind the various powers of his greatest subordinates, especially the Marine Admirals: raising Marineford's siege walls in conjunction with Akainu's "Ryusei Kazan" to rout the allied pirate forces and destroy Whitebeard's flagship, the Moby **** while protecting the brunt of the Marine garrison from the damage.

So to pit them against each other:
Prime Sengoku vs. Prime Garp: Garp = Mid-High DIFF
Current " " vs. Current " ": Garp = High DIFF

 

[-Akuma-]

Garp I guess..

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sengoku isn't as strong as many assume he is. And here's why: Because unlike his other 2 "partners" during Roger's era, he has yet to have an epithet regarding strength, nor has he even been revered for his strength. But he instead was acknowledged for his intelligence:


So to pit them against each other:
Prime Sengoku vs. Prime Garp: Garp = Mid-High DIFF
Current " " vs. Current " ": Garp = High DIFF

That doesn't mean his strength isn't as high as Garp's or greater, it just means his intelligence was so high, it thus, took the spotlight. Also, just being known for something doesn't mean absoluteness. For example, Law has shown to be more intelligent than cruel, but is known more for cruelty. Buggy is also known for being a superstar tough guy for being one of the prisoners to help Luffy break out of Impel Down, but we all know he isn't.

OT: From what we've seen, Sengoku wins.

 

[juzumaki]

garp sengoku isnt that impressive

 

[Peace Maker]

Sengoku was known for his intelligence. While garp was known buy strength itself, not to mentioned d's are lucky bastards...

 

[TheHokage]

That doesn't mean his strength isn't as high as Garp's or greater, it just means his intelligence was so high, it thus, took the spotlight. Also, just being known for something doesn't mean absoluteness. For example, Law has shown to be more intelligent than cruel, but is known more for cruelty. Buggy is also known for being a superstar tough guy for being one of the prisoners to help Luffy break out of Impel Down, but we all know he isn't.

OT: From what we've seen, Sengoku wins.

From what we've seen? What feat has Sengoku shown that puts him above Garp? Garp has been shown to rival the Pirate King and one shot pirates with a 500 million beli bounty on them.

By feats and hype I'd say Garp has the advantage here.

OT: Garp wins Mid/High difficulty.

 

[ziggyZ]

That doesn't mean his strength isn't as high as Garp's or greater, it just means his intelligence was so high, it thus, took the spotlight. Also, just being known for something doesn't mean absoluteness. For example, Law has shown to be more intelligent than cruel, but is known more for cruelty. Buggy is also known for being a superstar tough guy for being one of the prisoners to help Luffy break out of Impel Down, but we all know he isn't.

But even so, throughout the entire series and most importantly, the 'War of the Best', Sengoku was never commented for being really strong (or strong for that matter).

As for Law, lots of people lack knowledge of him. Meaning they don't know how strong he is. And the main reason he's famous is because he sent 100 hearts to the HQ and is a Warlord because of that.
And Buggy is only well-known for his history and therefore he has huge hype among the world.

However, Sengoku is not similar because he has he is known worldwide because he was a FA + an Admiral during Roger's Era. Which means the entire world would know of him and what he's capable of, but they still don't reference his strenght to such a degree.

OT: From what we've seen, Sengoku wins.

How? From what we've seen, Garp wins. Why? He jumped high in the sky and intercepted a full-speed Marco and punched him straight to the ground. And Sengoku wasn't even able to knock-down Luffy. Furthermore, Sengoku didn't knock-out BB. And Garp was destroyed a few mountains for shits & gigs.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Ziggy. If you think about it... Sengoku will give Garp some Donuts. That'll give him the opening to smash Garp to pieces.

 

[Hexuze]

Prime fight: Garp - high diff.
Current fight: Sengoku - high-diff.

 

[ziggyZ]

Ziggy. If you think about it... Sengoku will give Garp some Donuts. That'll give him the opening to smash Garp to pieces.

And you don't think that Garp is able to withstand such attacks? His hyped to be equal with WB, and WB possesses a stronger shock-wave than Sengoku. So strictly speaking, Garp can take them. Furthermore, you don't think Garp the FIST is able to punch stronger than Sengoku? Or even block them with his fist? The very thing he is famous for??

 

[the nine tails]

garp mid high diff

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I'm going with Sengoku, but barely.
I mean he pinned Garp down in MF and Garp was obviously at full killing intent to kill Sakazuki.

 

[TheHokage]

I'm going with Sengoku, but barely.
I mean he pinned Garp down in MF and Garp was obviously at full killing intent to kill Sakazuki.

But Garp obviously wanted him to hold him down. Garp wasn't fighting back against Sengoku at all but he was able to move his head easily enough despite Sengoku holding it down.

If Garp had wanted to he could have easily thrown Sengoku off of him.