Orochimaru > Jiraiya > Tsunade

[raziel777]

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Orochimaru > Jiraiya > Tsunade

Orochimaru is the strongest sannin. Jiraiya would put a fight in SM but Oro is just too much to handle.

A sick, arm-less Oro was playing with 4 tail Naruto while to Jiraiya it was a near death experience.

Oro took a Tsunade punch to the jaw and it BRUISED HIS SKIN.

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Since Part 1, Oro was the stronger Sannin.

 

[Penguin]

Uggh I hate when people say that 4 Tail Naruto > Jiraiya. You realize Orochimaru was trying against him, or rather kill him while Jiraiya was trying to subdue him?

SM Jiraiya > Orochimaru [w/o edo].

 

[iFlowMotion]

Tsunade <3 I love granny

 

[raziel777]

Uggh I hate when people say that 4 Tail Naruto > Jiraiya. You realize Orochimaru was trying against him, or rather kill him while Jiraiya was trying to subdue him?

SM Jiraiya > Orochimaru [w/o edo].

I never said 4th Tail > Jiraiya... I said it was difficult for him. But Oro was basically on his death bed and he was having fun with him

And no, Orochimaru [w/o edo] > SM Jiraiya

 

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No, Jiraiya murders Oro like an ant

 

[HiddenSound]

Yup. Orochimaru has always been the strongest Sannin.

 

[Bogard]

Jiraya can decimate Suna by himself(one of the 5greatest countries):

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Hiruzen always wanted Jiraya to become Hokage:

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Only sannin who managed to achieve SM even. Orochimaru failed in it. Jiraya by aquiring SM entered a different tier than the rest of his sannin partners

Itachi > Orochimaru

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Itachi admitted inferiority to Jiraya

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Pain(Akatsuki leader) admitted he would have lose if Jiraya had knowledge

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Jiraya is strongest Sannin. Jiraya > Orochimaru

 

[raziel777]

No, Jiraiya murders Oro like an ant

Can you please tell me how ? SM boost Jiraiya's strength but we've seen Oro take a tsunade punch with barely a bruise. And don't forget, Jiraiya's SM is not perfect

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade was > Part 1 Orochimaru
Her Strength seemed to be underrated by Kishi in Part 1. How Kabuto tanked a punch is unknown.

 

[raziel777]

Jiraya can decimate Suna by himself(one of the 5greatest countries):

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where does it say so in the scan ???????????

Hiruzen always wanted Jiraya to become Hokage:

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Hiruzen wanted Oro. Get your facts right. He chose Minato because he feared Oro was evil, not that he wasn't strong enough.

Only sannin who managed to achieve SM even. Orochimaru failed in it. Jiraya by aquiring SM entered a different tier than the rest of his sannin partners

Oro learned SM. His host body couldt handle it... Do you even read the manga ?

Itachi > Orochimaru

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Itachi admitted inferiority to Jiraya

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Sooooo ??? What does Nagato know of Orochimaru and his strength ? Does he know his techniques, his abilities ?

Jiraya is strongest Sannin. Jiraya > Orochimaru

Orochimaru is the strongest. Jiraiya admitted not being able to bring him back by force

EDIT: You can't be serious if you think : Itachi + Kisame < Jiraiya

 

[raziel777]

Tsunade was > Part 1 Orochimaru
Her Strength seemed to be underrated by Kishi in Part 1. How Kabuto tanked a punch is unknown.

The soldier pill I believe. He didn't underrate her. In Part 1, Oro > Tsunade. I don't even know how you could think otherwise

 

[Headmaster]

Tsunade was > Part 1 Orochimaru
Her Strength seemed to be underrated by Kishi in Part 1. How Kabuto tanked a punch is unknown.

Kabuto cut the muscles on her leg and arm, so she can't use monster strength.

 

[LeSauce]

where does it say so in the scan ???????????



Hiruzen wanted Oro. Get your facts right. He chose Minato because he feared Oro was evil, not that he wasn't strong enough.





Oro learned SM. His host body couldt handle it... Do you even read the manga ?

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Itachi was a Konoha ninja. He would have never fought Jiraiya at the risk of killing him. He had to give Kisame a good reason not to.

Pain(Akatsuki leader) admitted he would have lose if Jiraya had knowledge

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Sooooo ??? What does Nagato know of Orochimaru and his strength ? Does he know his techniques, his abilities ?



Orochimaru is the strongest. Jiraiya admitted not being able to bring him back by force

This, basically and Jiraiya already had SM when he tried to bring Oro back.

 

[Bogard]

where does it say so in the scan ???????????

He wonders if Suna could stop him if he to enter their territory

Hiruzen wanted Oro. Get your facts right. He chose Minato because he feared Oro was evil, not that he wasn't strong enough.

Get your facts straight yourself. Hiruzen said ONE of the reasons was Oro's evil, which means there were other reasons why he were not chosen including the fact there were stronger/better people

Oro learned SM. His host body couldt handle it... Do you even read the manga ?

You said it yourself. He couldn't handle SM when Jiraya can, so Jiraya >

Itachi was a Konoha ninja. He would have never fought Jiraiya at the risk of killing him. He had to give Kisame a good reason not to.

Kisame knows Itachi's power yet he agreed with him

Sooooo ??? What does Nagato know of Orochimaru and his strength ? Does he know his techniques, his abilities ?

Pain(stronger than Itachi) admitted he would have lose to Jiraya = Different tier than Orochimaru weaker than Itachi

EDIT: You can't be serious if you think : Itachi + Kisame < Jiraiya

So?? Oro was his friend. He probably didn't even want to kill him

 

[Owarij]

Jiraya can decimate Suna by himself(one of the 5greatest countries):

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Hiruzen always wanted Jiraya to become Hokage:

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Only sannin who managed to achieve SM even. Orochimaru failed in it. Jiraya by aquiring SM entered a different tier than the rest of his sannin partners

Itachi > Orochimaru

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Itachi admitted inferiority to Jiraya

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Pain(Akatsuki leader) admitted he would have lose if Jiraya had knowledge

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Jiraya is strongest Sannin. Jiraya > Orochimaru

So many false statements, Idk where to start


First scan, that's Jiraya wondering if Suna can pull it off.. as far as we know, he doesn't even know what Gaara is capable of.. no where in that scan was anything said as fact.. Its not even Jiraya's opinion, its just him pondering the capabilities of Suna which as we know is the weakest village... Many characters has said things in the past that turned out not to be true... Konan thought pein was a God who couldn't be defeated.. we all know how that turned out


Didn't we have this argument already?

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Hiruzen wanted Orochimaru to be Hokage


Lmao right, Itachi also said Jiraya could solo the entire akatsuki at the same time if he wished.. You should stop "debating " , go up in some mountains and try training your deductive reasoning and common sense if you still believe that.. it's 2013, up your game

Chapter 166 Page 12 - Orochimaru's words to Jiraiya

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Orochimaru: "Even with us both having handicaps, its no contest....Give it up."

Orochimaru telling Jiraya that even with handicaps there is no contest to who is stronger... which also implies what I ask? that even without handicaps the victor was Orochimaru


Its been so long and people still take Bogard's Jiraya/Minato's fanboyism moments seriously?

 

[inoyamanaka98]

Switch Orochimaru and Jiraya

 

[raziel777]

He wonders if Suna could stop him if he to enter their territory

Wrong, he wondered if they could stop him from entering the country... Read again.

Get your facts straight yourself. Hiruzen said ONE of the reasons was Oro's evil, which means there were other reasons why he were not chosen including the fact there were stronger/better people

We all know the third wanted Oro first. How do you know Tsunade didn't mean he wanted Jiraiya to be Hokage after the 4th died and he himself retired ?

You said it yourself. He couldn't handle SM when Jiraya can, so Jiraya >

Don't twist my word. He learned SM. Just like Jiraiya. Even better it seems. His HOST BODY couldn't handle SM, not he.

Kisame knows Itachi's power yet he agreed with him

Because Itachi was his trusted partner. What reason did he have to doubt his word ?

Pain(stronger than Itachi) admitted he would have lose to Jiraya = Different tier than Orochimaru weaker than Itachi

That's you speculating. Naruto doesn't work by a b c logic. Pain knows nothing of Orochimaru while he knew his sensei's fighting style.

We have been shown but a fraction of Orochimaru's power. His goal is to learn all the jutsus in the world...

 

[Kαmi]

I think you have it right there sir.

 

[scorezor]

Tsunade was > Part 1 Orochimaru
Her Strength seemed to be underrated by Kishi in Part 1. How Kabuto tanked a punch is unknown.

this girl only say intelligent things ...

 

[KidGamer65]

By feats Jiraiya takes him handily.