Establishing why Minato still defeats Sasuke

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The ribcage of Madara's Susanoo already blocked a Chou Rasengan of Naruto. Minato's feats with the Rasengan aren't surpassing. So at least you laugh at yourself. ;) A hit the ribcage from the right angle with a precise punch to make damage; these are two different types of attacks. Even the Raiga Bomb made fractional damage to it. You simply use ABC logic. To cut a long story short; the only offensive technique Minato can use, was already countered by a ribcage of Susanoo on a larger scale.

His clones can perform FTG, but the more clones he uses, the more time each of them need to perform Hiraishin. Not to mention the powerup he had with Kyuubi's Chakra. To warp all the flames away, he would also need to create a barrier and the larger the barrier is, so the larger the object to be teleported, the more chakra Minato needs. And as long as Sasuke can use Enton, he can reproduce the flames and increase the amount any time. Every sentence of you makes me laugh. Blaze Release Magatamas are used pretty fast, while Minato would need to make physical contact with Gamabunta to teleport him away, as well as the time to make it with such a big object, as already illustrated when whe was about to teleport Kyuubi.

The food cart destroyer is useless as well. A summon isn't harming upper stages of Susanoo, especially with the size of Sasuke's recent Susanoo. I wonder how food cart destroyer should end the match when Itachi survived Kirin with his Susanoo, Lol.

Also funny how you think that Minato would simply summon all toads he need; Gamabunta, Fuksaku and Shima, etc. while a normal Shinobi can most time summon only one boss summon, at least two huge ones after a certain period of time.

If you could simply summon Fukasaku and Shima, Jiraiya wouldn't have spent 10 minutes of his fight with Chikushodo to call them so that they can gather nature Chakra for him.

Even if they would be present on the battlefield, they would rather be set on fire than performing their Genjutsu, which needs a lot of more time.
 

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@Bold -> technically, yes, but you completely glossed over my point <__<

As I said before, every battle depends on the setting, intent of the opponents, the element of surprise, knowledge of each others' abilities, overall intelligence, tactical abilities, etc.

I believe Minato's intelligence, speed, and tactical abilities are enough to overcome Sasuke's massive firepower. That doesn't mean he would win in every situation, but I still say he'd win 7/10 times.

And who cares about post count? :|

okay that's nice and I have my reasons to. Shall we drop this conversation?
 

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seems very awesome.!!

i have to say you should be the one to write the story of Naruto.!!

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Sasuke has shown immense intellect and tactical prowess over the many fights he's been in. Like per say when he and Itachi fought Kabuto he used an offensive attack as a defensive attack (Enton Based technique)

Both are tactical and analytical more so Minato I can agree with that, but I don't believe he can out smart Sasuke as easily, if Minato decides to toss Kunai around the vicinity of Sasuke Sasuke would instinctively use Enton Flames surrounding his body to keep from being hit with attacks up close.

Also if Minato wants to try to mark Sasuke it will prove difficult since Susano'o is one of Sasukes commonly used techniques which encases him in the ethereal being composed of Chakra. I don't think Minato can even mark Susano'o since it's a large mass of chakra which I believe it to be.
 

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huh! you are right...! but sasuke fans will never accept this...! only a teleporter can beat a teleporter...! you can't beat what you can't see...! and obito is considered so strong because of one tech... teleportation and minato has lot more than that...! :hint:
 

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@Bold -> technically, yes, but you completely glossed over my point <__<

As I said before, every battle depends on the setting, intent of the opponents, the element of surprise, knowledge of each others' abilities, overall intelligence, tactical abilities, etc.

I believe Minato's intelligence, speed, and tactical abilities are enough to overcome Sasuke's massive firepower. That doesn't mean he would win in every situation, but I still say he'd win 7/10 times.

And who cares about post count? :|


people in here are too proud of their post count.!!

thats so pathetic.!!

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I disagree but may I ask a question? I know you say Minato is still stronger than Sasuke, so what difficulty does Minato beat Sasuke?
i would say high diff....! because sasuke ain't some fodder either...!
 

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I kind of just put my 2cents in this thread. Correct me if I have the bulk of this thread wrong, but are the people who support minato winning saying he can teleport susanoo away from sasuke. If this is so then thats a mistake on y'all part since susanoo has the same chakra reading as sasuke.

Also, for clarification you can't give minato a jutsu he never used. I have not seen minato even perform a Odama rasengan in the manga. Just because Jirayai and naruto can use it, doesn't mean minato can. This would be like me saying sasuke can use regular yasaka magatama because both madara and Itachi can. You can only use moves that the character has shown in the manga not the anime.

Next thing is summoning. I extremely doubt minato would risk the life of gamabunta to try to take susanoo. Big target= easy hit if you no what i mean.

If we are using alive minato i'm not sure if shadow clones should be counted in his moveset since we don't know the consequences that the move would have on a regular alive minato. This also means that any cs susanoo with legs cannot be counted in sasuke's arsenal since you do not know the consequences of the move without sasuke having kyubbi cloak.

Who do I believe would win the fight. I think its a 50/50 chance that either of them could emerge the winner since they both have moves that are extremely hard to get around. Oh and one more thing just for the people who think chakra will come into play, I don't believe this fight would come down to who runs out of chakra first.
 

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I've seen these arguments before do something new yo.
 

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This shit is getting heat, legit shit
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Too long didn't read it but I'll tel u my opinion on those to ...

EDO Minato defeats Sasuke mid dif ..

As for Alive Minato..Sasuke is alot stronger than Minato but I don't think Sasuke can win ,it would be very high dif match for Sasuke.....
 

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I kind of just put my 2cents in this thread. Correct me if I have the bulk of this thread wrong, but are the people who support minato winning saying he can teleport susanoo away from sasuke. If this is so then thats a mistake on y'all part since susanoo has the same chakra reading as sasuke.

Also, for clarification you can't give minato a jutsu he never used. I have not seen minato even perform a Odama rasengan in the manga. Just because Jirayai and naruto can use it, doesn't mean minato can. This would be like me saying sasuke can use regular yasaka magatama because both madara and Itachi can. You can only use moves that the character has shown in the manga not the anime.

Next thing is summoning. I extremely doubt minato would risk the life of gamabunta to try to take susanoo. Big target= easy hit if you no what i mean.

If we are using alive minato i'm not sure if shadow clones should be counted in his moveset since we don't know the consequences that the move would have on a regular alive minato. This also means that any cs susanoo with legs cannot be counted in sasuke's arsenal since you do not know the consequences of the move without sasuke having kyubbi cloak.

Who do I believe would win the fight. I think its a 50/50 chance that either of them could emerge the winner since they both have moves that are extremely hard to get around. Oh and one more thing just for the people who think chakra will come into play, I don't believe this fight would come down to who runs out of chakra first.

I wouldn't put it passed Minato to summon Gambunta against Sasuke's Susano'o. Not because he's a bag guy which he's not, but to win against a strong opponent like Sasuke he surely would use Gambunta and other toad summons, which would result in their deaths, Enton spam and Susano'o Arrows with or without Amateratsu coating would suffice.
 

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people bring up the case of minato getting powerup with kyuubi chakra , the thing they conviniently forget is that minato has not shown something diff or in the sense something diff which he was not able to do when he was alive

the boost with bijuumode only gives us the various possibilities

similarly people shud accept the various possibilities using which minato can counter but people simply say not canon and ask for a proof by pasting manga scan

so can people past a manga scan showing minato saying that the km chakra was the sole reason he was able to do something
 

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Borgard you're a dangerous troll, you fooled me so good lol.Your too pro man too pro.
 

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Nice thread as always :)

You saved me the trouble to make one U_U Minato no Minato's Shadow Clones with only three Jutsus finishes off Sasuke

1. Shadow Clones
2. FTG Swap
3. Kunai to neck

No matter how Sasuke attacks Minato, his clones solo Sasuke! Sasuke can't land a hit on his clones thanks to the speed and FTG, Minato clone can touch and teleport away with the Susanoo[doesn't matter if it enton covered or not its a clone] leaving Sasuke hanging Lol Also Genjutsu has no effect on Shadow Clones! Once the Susanoo is gone the other colnes solo via superior speed and reflexes i.e. Kunai to neck or a marking or Rasengan to head anything really.

Again Alive Minato is EMS Madara level [VOTE Madara > Minato] Sasuke needs solid ten years to fight Minato on a comparable level U_U
 

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Sasuke wins. Minato FTG's to Sasuke to hit him with Rasengan, his arm gets engulfed in Enton which Sasuke spreads over all of Minato's body.

Game over.
 

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kid?
sasuke havent a single match to sakura chan then how can he able to defeat minato?

Sasuke havent a single jutsu rather than chidori

Sasuke has a limited chakra level

Sasuke susanoo is only has legs because of naruto's chakra cloak

Sasuke is a jealously


Sasuke susanoo will be easily destroyed by that minato attack :
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Gets Slashed WIth Susano Swords..then Spams Enton
 
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