Weakest Hokage: Tsunade vs Hiruzen

[GiantShuriken]

Who would win in a fight between the two weakest hokages?

Hiruzen: Shurikens, mud, fire, summons a gorilla that can turn into a staff...

Tsunade: Healing, strength, weak ass taijutsu got her ass kicked by a jounin in part one.

Who wins?

 

[Misconception]

Tsunade stomps...

 

[KidGamer65]

Hiruzen has no way to kill her due to Byakugo, he isn't outlasting her and he definitely doesn't have more firepower than her.

Tsunade mid diff.

 

[Shura]

Tsunade wins.

 

[Ababeel]

by hype Hiruzen stomps since he's even stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama.

by feats, the best he can do is using the raper seal to take Tsunade with him, or
else he will lose.

 

[GiantShuriken]

by hype Hiruzen stomps since he's even stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama.

by feats, the best he can do is using the raper seal to take Tsunade with him, or
else he will lose.

No he can't, the reaper is dead, oro killed it. If Hiruzen is to kill Tsunade, he needs to hit her with one of his shurikens in the face, or hit her on the back of the head with the Enma staff really really hard.

 

[Bogard]

by hype Hiruzen stomps since he's even stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama.

by feats, the best he can do is using the raper seal to take Tsunade with him, or
else he will lose.

Lol, you know we're in 2013, right?

OT: Tsunade wins for obvious reasons

 

[Ababeel]

No he can't, the reaper is dead, oro killed it. If Hiruzen is to kill Tsunade, he needs to hit her with one of his shurikens in the face, or hit her on the back of the head with the Enma staff really really hard.

Not sure if serious!
but about the other part, well, that as well. =D

, you know we're in 2013, right?

yes, and I know that's part is still a part from the story. there is no chapter
stated otherwise, like Hashi or Tobirama being stronger. The only different now
is for Minato because he has a power now he did not have before, and that pulled him out
of that statement. On the other hand, Hashi & Tobirama are still stuck with it.

anyway, I don't want to debate that, I can do nothing about it. and the topic
is not about it either.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

All Hiruzen needs to beat Tsunade is a good amount stamina and a young body.

 

[Tazzilla88]

All Hiruzen needs to beat Tsunade is a good amount stamina and a young body.

And techniques that would actually put her down. And a way to avoid getting killed in her AoE.

 

[Headmaster]

Tsunade low-mid diff

 

[MickNerks]

Hiruzen wins IMO.

He is superior to her in all aspects of shinobi combat. The only thing she has over him is strength, speed, and stamina.

If he fights smart (like he did against oro), I can see him pulling out a victory. Lace her neck with explosive tags and keep her head as a trophy. Or just have enma lock her in his adamantine cage and blow her to bits that way.

Think about it. Hiruzen fought Oro in his prime, Hashirama, and tobirama and was able to hold his own and stalemate at the end. Tsunade is nowhere near as much of a threat as orochimaru was.

 

[deidara senpai]

i feel bad for hizuren, he needs more of his feats cause by hype (and only hype) i believe hashirama and minato are the 2 other kages that can beat him.

but feats is the only way to go here and tsunade wins

 

[Misconception]

Let me put a end to this real quick... Hiruzen feats- Mudwall, Paper Bombs,Med lvl Katon,Enma RDS .... There speed should be around the same level imo... So it's possible she could land a hit that could 1shot Hiruzen... Hiruzen isn't getting rid of Katsuya in no way shape or form... He has nothing that can put her down for the count... I just don't see Hiruzen winnning this at all...

 

[ItachiOfTheLeaf]

The only way to actually compare the two is to see how they fared against a common opponent. In this case , Orochimaru. Hiruzen defeated Oro even though his personal feelings for his student were in the way. On the other hand, Tsunade barely managed to survive an armless Oro with the help of Jiraiya and Naruto. These are stated facts in the manga, not just supposition based on stats. Hiruzen wins hands down in my opinion.=D

 

[Misconception]

The only way to actually compare the two is to see how they fared against a common opponent. In this case , Orochimaru. Hiruzen defeated Oro even though his personal feelings for his student were in the way. On the other hand, Tsunade barely managed to survive an armless Oro with the help of Jiraiya and Naruto. These are stated facts in the manga, not just supposition based on stats. Hiruzen wins hands down in my opinion.=D

Terrible Logic Orochimaru couldn't even go all out inside that barrier... A>B>C logic dosen't work in Naruto...

 

[ItachiOfTheLeaf]

MY logic is terrible, huh ? How about yours ? That barrier was meant to restrict Hiruzen's movements, not Oro's. Tsunade would have been helpless against the 1st and 2nd edos. She can pulverize them all day long, but they'll just keep coming back. She lacks the necessary skills and knowledge to defeat Oro, much less Hiruzen.

 

[Joshutsu]

Tsunade tanks all. Katsuyu can keep enma down if he doesn't fight in staff form and attempts to assist hiruzen IMO

IF he activated RDS he will fail, trying to get close to Tsunade, Katsuyu can be her support in keeping him away with acid/hitting him with acid if he gets too close or hiding a small one on herself to hit him with a direct dose of acid upon grabbing.

Thus resulting in a scuicide w/o accomplishing anything really.

Given his techniques which don't seem to be extremely unavoidable but lets jsut say she was hit by some. Would take a toll on her.

So Tsunade wins mid diff/ reletively high diff.

MY logic is terrible, huh ? How about yours ? That barrier was meant to restrict Hiruzen's movements, not Oro's. Tsunade would have been helpless against the 1st and 2nd edos. She can pulverize them all day long, but they'll just keep coming back. She lacks the necessary skills and knowledge to defeat Oro, much less Hiruzen.

Part 1 edos =/= part 2 edos of hashi and tobi. Besides she wouldn't be fighting oro so calling her out on that is irrelevant. Hiruzen took them becos RDS but that is a non factor for her

 

[EZQ]

tsunade low-med diff

 

[Misconception]

MY logic is terrible, huh ? How about yours ? That barrier was meant to restrict Hiruzen's movements, not Oro's. Tsunade would have been helpless against the 1st and 2nd edos. She can pulverize them all day long, but they'll just keep coming back. She lacks the necessary skills and knowledge to defeat Oro, much less Hiruzen.

Orochimaru couldn't used Manda because of that barrier... The barrier was there so the Leaf Ninja couldn't jump in... Hiruzen lacks the feats to get rid of a Summoning... Why are you bring Orochimaru in this anyways and your talking like Hiruzen beat Orochimaru when Orochimaru was the clear winner...