Tobirama's FTG compared to Minato's FTG

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- Minato has compatible reflexes to such high speed movement...
- Minato has multiple variants of FTG...
- Minato can apply tags to objects for better usage of FTG...

- Tobirama hasn't shown enough godly reflexes...
- Tobirama needs a tagged destination...
- Tobirama needs a direct contact for the jump...

And Tobirama reacting to an unexpected 'blitz' from Obito and placing a tag on him before his right side was affected by Obito's technique isn't a "godly reflex feat"? Obito - who is now the fastest being in the whole series.
 

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well i can show manga scans of both minato and tobirama teleporting where we were not shown their markings so ..u know what i'm saying
 

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Tobiramas ftg is better than that of minato but minato is has more speed(shunshin) than tobirama.

Tobirama can teleport to short distance without marking them. He can only teleport to far places which h has marked.

About using hiraishin without touchin is not possible because when minato wanted to teleport the whole SA he teleported through coming in contact with naruto and kyubi chakra that was in the whole shinobi alliance and that way he came in contact.

What made tobirama better than minato in ftg is him being able to teleport himself to short distances without a need to mark the place.

kill me now...! lol at this dude...! how the hell can tobirama teleport to short distances without marking???
 

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And Tobirama reacting to an unexpected 'blitz' from Obito and placing a tag on him before his right side was affected by Obito's technique isn't a "godly reflex feat"? Obito - who is now the fastest being in the whole series.

that was before sage obito...! minato was confident of defeating that obito and was keeping up with him...! so your point...?
 

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Tobirama asked in latest chapter if Minato could teleport directly to Naruto despite the fact he never marked him at all and Tobirama himself being capable to use FTG, which means himself couldn't but apparently Minato's version of FTG could, only that he was apparently out of chakra
 

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Tobirama asked in latest chapter if Minato could teleport directly to Naruto despite the fact he never marked him at all and Tobirama himself being capable to use FTG, which means himself couldn't but apparently Minato's version of FTG could, only that he was apparently out of chakra


Nah it is not that Minato run out of chakra ....he escaped from Tree and has KCM which means that he has more than Enough chakra to teleport and Minato is the one that teleported all of them ....

Minato said that Bcoz the chakra link B/W Naruto and Minato was Broken since Juubi absorbed all of Naruto's chakra....
 

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Nah it is not that Minato run out of chakra ....he escaped from Tree and has KCM which means that he has more than Enough chakra to teleport and Minato is the one that teleported all of them ....

Minato said that Bcoz the chakra link B/W Naruto and Minato was Broken since Juubi absorbed all of Naruto's chakra....
I thought so as well, but according to the japanese script translated by TakL, Minato was talking about his chakra

TakL said:
tobirama: 4th..can you fly directly to Naruto !?
minato: i can't.
not at the moment because I have my chakra squeezed out of me by this creeper/bine and (using) that hiraisin earlier.......
 

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1.Minato is more proficient than Tobirama with FTG
2.Minato has better reflexes
3.Better Shunshin
4.Advantage with Kunai
5.Level 2

I dnt knw wether FTG V1 is faster than Tobirama's FTG or not but V2 is dfntly abovt Tobirama..

Tobirama is not overrated (only his fans overrate him)

I think Tobirama can teleport through his chakra link just like Minato...

I thought so as well, but according to the japanese script translated by TakL, Minato was talking about his chakra

Yes, I knw that he is talking abt his chakra ...

Juubi got the chakra that link's Minato with Naruto(from Minato) so that he can't teleport to Naruto...

Minato is the one that teleported all of them(Tobirama,Minato,Naruto & Sarutobi) at last....
 
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yeah Minato's is more versatile, and MInato has better base speed, but idk about the whole link thing.

Tobirama has not been shown to teleport ppl with only chakra links, bcoz there's been no need to, you can't make this assumption really, the only reason Minato is able to pull it off is bcoz he has KCM, which enables him to share chakra. Tobirama doesn't
 

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The differences IMO.

1-Minato's is faster than Tobirama's
2- Minato has level 1, 2 and 3
3- The Kunais which make its rang much larger
4- as you said Minato can teleport anyone has his chakra even without touching them
5- Minato can teleport more things/people than Tobirama

1) They're both the same, you can't go faster when the jutsu is instantaneous.
2) There is no such thing, that was a mistranslation, Minato actually said "That was the two step Hiraishin!"
3) If Tobirama wanted to mark kunais he could, it's not a case of if he could but if he wanted to.
4) He could teleport them because Naruto had already linked his chakra, and he had to to fist bump with Naruto to do it. Contactless Hiraishin is featless.
5) Tobirama teleported the Kyuubi and a giant, Senjutsu fused Rasengan simultaneously, whereas Minato could only do something similar but not as powerful in separate instances.
 

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1) They're both the same, you can't go faster when the jutsu is instantaneous.
2) There is no such thing, that was a mistranslation, Minato actually said "That was the two step Hiraishin!"
3) If Tobirama wanted to mark kunais he could, it's not a case of if he could but if he wanted to.
4) He could teleport them because Naruto had already linked his chakra, and he had to to fist bump with Naruto to do it. Contactless Hiraishin is featless.
5) Tobirama teleported the Kyuubi and a giant, Senjutsu fused Rasengan simultaneously, whereas Minato could only do something similar but not as powerful in separate instances.
Half Kyubi is comparable to Hachibi in size
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Yet he looks like shit compared to Jubi's Bijudama
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Said Bijudama that was warped by Base Minato. Teleporting half Kyubi is fodder level compared to what Base Minato accomplished let alone with Kyubi's chakra. Also, there is a level2. Level2 is the teleporting on a moving marking. He also even talked about a level 3 lately with his Rasen chourinbu kousan shiki. He also has space-time barrier something Tobirama doesn't have.
 

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Tobirama can practically do everything minato can.

Minato's is better because he can to an extent nullify one of the limitations of the technique by having transportable tags.
Thats more or less it.
 

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Tobirama can practically do everything minato can.

Minato's is better because he can to an extent nullify one of the limitations of the technique by having transportable tags.
Thats more or less it.
Like i've said, Tobirama asked Minato if he could teleport directly to Naruto in latest chapter despite the fact Minato didn't mark him at all. The fact he asked means himself couldn't. Only reason Minato couldn't was because he was out of chakra, but tbh i personally think there are certain workings of FTG that remain unclear
 

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Half Kyubi is comparable to Hachibi in size
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Yet he looks like shit compared to Jubi's Bijudama
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Said Bijudama that was warped by Base Minato. Teleporting half Kyubi is fodder level compared to what Base Minato accomplished let alone with Kyubi's chakra. Also, there is a level2. Level2 is the teleporting on a moving marking. He also even talked about a level 3 lately with his Rasen chourinbu kousan shiki. He also has space-time barrier something Tobirama doesn't have.

Nope, Tobirama teleported the full Kyuubi in two halves plus a giant Senjutsu fused Rasengan that was even powerful enough to crack Obito's black Juubi chakra.

Try harder.
 

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1) They're both the same, you can't go faster when the jutsu is instantaneous.
2) There is no such thing, that was a mistranslation, Minato actually said "That was the two step Hiraishin!"
3) If Tobirama wanted to mark kunais he could, it's not a case of if he could but if he wanted to.
4) He could teleport them because Naruto had already linked his chakra, and he had to to fist bump with Naruto to do it. Contactless Hiraishin is featless.
5) Tobirama teleported the Kyuubi and a giant, Senjutsu fused Rasengan simultaneously, whereas Minato could only do something similar but not as powerful in separate instances.
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This is manga ..U can't apply real world logics
 

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Like i've said, Tobirama asked Minato if he could teleport directly to Naruto in latest chapter despite the fact Minato didn't mark him at all. The fact he asked means himself couldn't. Only reason Minato couldn't was because he was out of chakra, but tbh i personally think there are certain workings of FTG that remain unclear

I hope you are not saying that minato can teleport without seals because i have heard the same thing from tobirama, because though he teleported them in the latest chapter and admittedly i do not know whether he has a seal near sasuke/jugo, going by the principle of the technique he has a seal there, its just hasn't been revealed yet.

Anyway it i remember correctly in order for him to teleport something his chakra or himself has to be connected or something like that (its the morning my head ain't functioning right =D). The reason he couldn't is because though he has the link with naruto as you said he was running low on reserve
 

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Nope, Tobirama teleported the full Kyuubi in two halves plus a giant Senjutsu fused Rasengan that was even powerful enough to crack Obito's black Juubi chakra.

Try harder.
The Rasengan isn't even as big as half Kyubi, but just to give you the benefit of doubt, let's say it's as big. Which means he basically teleported something 3times bigger than half Kyubi, which is still not even close to this
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And that was teleported by Base Minato
Try harder
 

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Nope, Tobirama teleported the full Kyuubi in two halves plus a giant Senjutsu fused Rasengan that was even powerful enough to crack Obito's black Juubi chakra.

Try harder.

R U sayng teleporting Kyubi >>> Juubi's TBB....?

I think teleporting chakra cloak is dif from physical form and it requires less amount of chakra (my Opinion)...

Minato teleported Kyubi's TBB (as big as Kyubi) like it was nothing but it took almost all of his chakra to teleport Kyubi's physical form...
 

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Don't downplay Tobirama's Hiraishin. The only reason that Minato was able to teleport the SA is because his chakra was connected to their's via Naruto. Thus fulfilling the teleporting anything my chakra is contact with rule.

Tobirama has never been in a position where he could teleport someone who was touching his chakra. Not once, so you can't say that he can't do it just cause he hasn't shown it when its obvious that he has it. The only difference between Minato and Tobirama's Hiraishin is that Minato attached his mark to Kunai.

In fact I'm pretty sure that the bold principle is why they can teleport to their makings (Which are made of their chakra)
 

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So someone explain, when Minato used food cart destroyer on the kyuubi, how did he teleport it plus the tailed beast bomb in its mouth when Minato was not in contact with them?
 
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