BM Minato is stronger than Healthy Nagato

[thatgirl]

Minato has said he can teleport people who directly have his chakra:
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you seem to forget Minato also gave Naruto some chakra:
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Minato cannot use FTG in BM (manga fact).

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if you dont know how ftg is used offensively then just tell, no need to embarrass yourself

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Not a chance only people beating healthy Nagato are :

Kaguya
Sage
Anyone with the Juubi
Madara if he gains the ability to use all rinnegan techniques like Nagato otherwise no

I have a feeling naruto will be on Kaguya and Ōtsutsuki Hagoromo so obviously he will be far stronger then Nagato then

 

[Mitarashi]

Not a chance only people beating healthy Nagato are :

Kaguya
Sage
Anyone with the Juubi
Madara if he gains the ability to use all rinnegan techniques like Nagato otherwise naruto

I have a feeling naruto will be on Kaguya and Ōtsutsuki Bagoromo so obviously he will be far stronger then Nagato then

Not sure if Kaguya could beat him TBH.
She has Hella chakra, But it's all stolen like KCM, + She doesn't know any Jutsu + no rinnegan.

She probably just had basic jutsu.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Almost 80% of your arguments are invalid
You're saying "Healthy Nagato' not SPOP, so he can't just beat 1 path at a time.
You can't use a Spacetime barrier on CT, it's pure gravitational pull, it doesn't have a form, but let's assume he can.
As soon as Minato tries to use a contract seal, he's touching Nagato, Nagato then Holds him in place with a few arms ( stronger than Bee+Naruto ) Drains his chakra and or pulls his soul out, so Contract seals won't work.

Nagato VS Naruto was kind of biased, As soon as Nagato had Naruto it was over, he could have drained him clean right then if he wanted to, or stabbed him, immobilizing him.

Nagato Counters FTG with ST/CT, he can send all his kunai to where ever he likes, and if CT would destroy any seals on things. Space time takes handsigns, and a small prep time, easily interrupted by Summons,Rockets, Deva abilities or just the CT itself.

ST isn't a great choice here, but he can use the other one that drags minato towards him, Then drain his chakra, his soul or just stab him....


It took Nagato seconds to drain 8tail cloak from bee.

Nagato wins mid dif.

yea, you clearly didnt read it right or something

nagato CANT hold minato because minato can still use FTG to get out of nagato's hold. (naruto used rasengan while nagato was clearly holding him, this proves that minato can still use his jutsu while nagato is holding him.) And have you forgotten that minato is faster than nagato?? and nagato vs naruto wasn't based it was manga fact and minato can easily counter it because he has s/t jutsu unlike naruto and killer bee

why cant s/t barrier work??? you just made up an excuse, chibaku is literally nothing but a bunch of rock being pulled together, minato CAN use space time barrier to warp this away from nagato

how does nagato counter minato during the 5 second interval?????

I just told you chibaku tensei is useless against s/t barrier, and naruto broke it with just his tails

draining minato's cloak wont stop minato from touching nagato's arm and the fight will be over after that

Minato has said he can teleport people who directly have his chakra:
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you seem to forget Minato also gave Naruto some chakra:
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Minato cannot use FTG in BM (manga fact).

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what?? lol

minato said he can only teleport people when his chakra is touching them,

 

[~Sovereign~]

Not a chance only people beating healthy Nagato are :

Kaguya
Sage
Anyone with the Juubi
Madara if he gains the ability to use all rinnegan techniques like Nagato otherwise naruto

I have a feeling naruto will be on Kaguya and Ōtsutsuki Hagoromo so obviously he will be far stronger then Nagato then

no explanation??

 

[Mitarashi]

yea, you clearly didnt read it right or something

nagato CANT hold minato because minato can still use FTG to get out of nagato's hold. (naruto used rasengan while nagato was clearly holding him, this proves that minato can still use his jutsu while nagato is holding him.) And have you forgotten that minato is faster than nagato?? and nagato vs naruto wasn't based it was manga fact and minato can easily counter it because he has s/t jutsu unlike naruto and killer bee

why cant s/t barrier work??? you just made up an excuse, chibaku is literally nothing but a bunch of rock being pulled together, minato CAN use space time barrier to warp this away from nagato

how does nagato counter minato during the 5 second interval?????

I just told you chibaku tensei is useless against s/t barrier, and naruto broke it with just his tails

draining minato's cloak wont stop minato from touching nagato's arm and the fight will be over after that
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FTG?
FTG to where?
If he throws Kunai, Nagato just brings them all to him using deva, or buries them under rubble with ST.
So FTG won't work, period, unless he marks Nagato, to mark Nagato he needs to touch nagato, Touching Nagato = GG.
His chakra is all drained by Preta path while his soul is ripped out with no-where to FTG to.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Not sure if Kaguya could beat him TBH.
She has Hella chakra, But it's all stolen like KCM, + She doesn't know any Jutsu + no rinnegan.

She probably just had basic jutsu.

I have to disagree with you Kaguya defeated every army by herself subduing all wars , had holy powes and was worshipped like a god by shinobi. The only people wee see these type of feats from are rinnegan users like Nagato with konoha worshipped by his people and Madara with the shinobi alliance. She would have been very powerful.

 

[~Sovereign~]

FTG?
FTG to where?
If he throws Kunai, Nagato just brings them all to him using deva, or buries them under rubble with ST.
So FTG won't work, period, unless he marks Nagato, to mark Nagato he needs to touch nagato, Touching Nagato = GG.
His chakra is all drained by Preta path while his soul is ripped out with no-where to FTG to.

minato has FTG markings everywhere in konoha and at the battle field now

don't try to tell me that minato needs prep for that because nagato needs prep to use shinra tensei ( the big one)

and I said in the OP, minato can do this

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BM mode >> regular fox tails

 

[Mitarashi]

I have to disagree with you Kaguya defeated every army by herself subduing all wars , had holy powes and was worshipped like a god by shinobi. The only people wee see these type of feats from are rinnegan users like Nagato with konoha worshipped by his people and Madara with the shinobi alliance. She would have been very powerful.

But at the time EVERYONE in the war was waving around Swords, axes, that sort of stuff.
Keep in mind they didn't have 'Super naruto power' either, Like 15foot standing jumps, eyes that shot fire and punches that shattered rocks.

It'd be like a small roman army VS Someone that could fly, punch through a boulder and tank pretty much anything they had.

minato has FTG markings everywhere in konoha and at the battle field now

don't try to tell me that minato needs prep for that because nagato needs prep to use shinra tensei ( the big one)

and I said in the OP, minato can do this

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BM mode >> regular fox tails

So you're assuming that Minato is going to start his Shinra tensi counter before he uses Shinra tensi?
Loooooool


That CT was a weakened deva path one, and even he said "I'll just make it bigger'

A healthy Nagato would trap the Fox easily.


You're forgetting that Healthy Nagato's Jutsu would all be atleast 6 times stronger than the ones Deva showed us, ATLEAST.

 

[Bronze]

this guy is using pain feats and try to say they equal to nagato when manga said nagato are much much much much much much much much much much much stronger and much much much faster.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

no explanation??

Nagato can fly in the air like a dragonballz character and could just spam techniques like celestial tera blast and shinra tensei with preta path enabled taking away plot barriers.If we restrict him to the ground he can absorb all ninjutsu , stop all taijutsu with asura and shinra tensei and counter most genjutsu seeing as hes a master of genjutsu himself(yin release), excellent chakra sensor and rinnegan user.A lot of people don't know a lot about Nagatos techniques but together they make him as close to as invincible you can be not counting Kaguya or Hagoromo or the tree.

 

[~Sovereign~]

this guy is using pain feats and try to say they equal to nagato when manga said nagato are much much much much much much much much much much much stronger and much much much faster.

are you stupid??

I mean seriously, nagato's ABILITIES are the same, he just gets physically stronger

BUT the same can be said about minato because BM mode will boost all of his abilities

all you're doing is making excuses, I have listed a way for minato to counter everything nagato has

you don't even read the manga, you think minato cant use FTG because he didn't have a mark on obito....wtf

 

[LegendaryAce]

Not a chance only people beating healthy Nagato are :

Kaguya
Sage
Anyone with the Juubi
Madara if he gains the ability to use all rinnegan techniques like Nagato otherwise naruto

I have a feeling naruto will be on Kaguya and Ōtsutsuki Hagoromo so obviously he will be far stronger then Nagato then

Pretty sure madara and hashirama can beat him aswell.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Nagato can fly in the air like a dragonballz character and could just spam techniques like celestial tera blast and shinra tensei with preta path enabled taking away plot barriers.If we restrict him to the ground he can absorb all ninjutsu , stop all taijutsu with asura and shinra tensei and counter most genjutsu seeing as hes a master of genjutsu himself(yin release), excellent chakra sensor and rinnegan user.A lot of people don't know a lot about Nagatos techniques but together they make him as close to as invincible you can be not counting Kaguya or Hagoromo or the tree.

nagato can only fly when he use shinra tensei, which minato can tank

and if nagato uses summons to fly, minto has toads that can jump high and minato can attack then, or minato can use tbb on the summoning, then nagato will fall

and on the ground minato is waaay more faster than nagato, and if nagato touches minato, minato can touch nagato's arm and put a FTG mark on him and the fight will be over soon afterwards.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

But at the time EVERYONE in the war was waving around Swords, axes, that sort of stuff.
Keep in mind they didn't have 'Super naruto power' either, Like 15foot standing jumps, eyes that shot fire and punches that shattered rocks.

It'd be like a small roman army VS Someone that could fly, punch through a boulder and tank pretty much anything they had.



So you're assuming that Minato is going to start his Shinra tensi counter before he uses Shinra tensi?
Loooooool


That CT was a weakened deva path one, and even he said "I'll just make it bigger'

A healthy Nagato would trap the Fox easily.


You're forgetting that Healthy Nagato's Jutsu would all be atleast 6 times stronger than the ones Deva showed us, ATLEAST.

Good point i was thinking about that as well but i don't see it as simply as that stopping an entire war( implied to be war of all humans as they was no peace anywhere) by yourself regardless of whether they could just use taijutsu is still very impressive imo no one else apart from Hagoromo could do that due to the sheer numbers bare in mind taijutsu isn't weak in the narutoverse look at rock lee.

Yeah Nagato could beat Kuruma he already basically did through a weaker ct even though you didn't ask me

 

[~Sovereign~]

So you're assuming that Minato is going to start his Shinra tensi counter before he uses Shinra tensi?
Loooooool


That CT was a weakened deva path one, and even he said "I'll just make it bigger'

A healthy Nagato would trap the Fox easily.


You're forgetting that Healthy Nagato's Jutsu would all be atleast 6 times stronger than the ones Deva showed us, ATLEAST.

what are you talking about?? minato's counter to shinra tensei is the cloak itself

healthy nagato's chibaku sensei got destroyed by 8 tails tbb, rasenshuriken, and yasaka magatama. Have you forgotten that KYUUBI's tbb can match 5 tailed beast??

and like I said BM mode> regular fox tails, nagato is healthy now but minato can use stronger tails than what naruto used on nagato



"at least 6x stronger" this is speculation to the max LMAO

 

[~Sovereign~]

Yeah Nagato could beat Kuruma he already basically did through a weaker ct even though you didn't ask me

kurama stomped weakened nagato in 6 tails mode, broke CT, and tanked ST. what are you talking about??

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Pretty sure madara and hashirama can beat him aswell.

Not when the vast majority of their techniques are ninjutsu and not when they cant fly. Madara could beat Nagato if he has mastered deva as thats a major advantage Nagato has over him and Hashirama only has a statue to threaten him which can be taken care of summons like gedo, ceberus etc.

Just my opinion if you disagree with me its understandable.

kurama stomped weakened nagato in 6 tails mode, broke CT, and tanked ST. what are you talking about??

Deva captured the kyubbi tired from defeating konoha and was still confident on the verge of chakra exhaustion he could just make it bigger now saying Nagato at full power in his actual body wouldn't beat it is wrong in my opinion

 

[Mitarashi]

what are you talking about?? minato's counter to shinra tensei is the cloak itself

healthy nagato's chibaku sensei got destroyed by 8 tails tbb, rasenshuriken, and yasaka magatama. Have you forgotten that KYUUBI's tbb can match 5 tailed beast??

and like I said BM mode> regular fox tails, nagato is healthy now but minato can use stronger tails than what naruto used on nagato



"at least 6x stronger" this is speculation to the max LMAO

Speculation?
He was in a crippled, weakened state, that both you and I know was less than half power.
he split his chakra into 6 people, 6 paths of pain.

I disagree, Naruto's Blinded Kyuubi rage was more powerful than Minato's cloak, the reason being is that when the Ninetails completly takes over, like at the ninth tail, he would be re-born, yes? I CBA Finding the scan but we both know that, A reborn nine tails = 100%, not half, so that nine tails mode in your scan > BM Minato.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Speculation?
He was in a crippled, weakened state, that both you and I know was less than half power.
he split his chakra into 6 people, 6 paths of pain.

I disagree, Naruto's Blinded Kyuubi rage was more powerful than Minato's cloak, the reason being is that when the Ninetails completly takes over, like at the ninth tail, he would be re-born, yes? I CBA Finding the scan but we both know that, A reborn nine tails = 100%, not half, so that nine tails mode in your scan > BM Minato.

Oh my god lol, I cant believe you're trying to troll me man

Healthy nagato aint NEVER gonna be 6x as stronger as he was when he was weakened. PERIOD

Just because nagato can be the 6 paths in one body doesn't mean he's gonna be 6x stronger lol

That's like saying if naruto made 1000 clones, whenever he disperse the clones, he'll be 1000 times stronger lol no

Nagato will def be stronger but you're completely overrating him at this point man

WHAT???? lol kyuubi can NEVER get it's other half of chakra back, you must be losing it lol, and if you think bm mode is WEAKER than kurama in the pain fight then I honestly don't know what to tell you at this point.