Let's be realistic here.. How would rinnegan help sasuke against Naruto? #im turnt up

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Absorbing senjutsu powered techniques will not cause Sasuke any petrification [Preta absorbing: Senpou Goemon, Senjutsu infused Fuuton: Rasenshuriken's], meaning that all Bijuu Dama and Rasengan type techniques would be absorbed and the said chakra could be added Sasuke's existing chakra pools. Ay's speed and Taijutsu while in Raiton V1 is almost on Par with Naruto's in Kyuubi Mode [ ] yet the sharingan easily anticipated his attacks [ ] and the same goes for him anticipating and reacting by setting up defences against V2 as well [something Naruto barely evaded] [ ]. The Mangekyou has also been shown to effortlessly anticipate Raiton V2 via Madara. Bijuu mode was also anticipated by the Mangekyou [ ] and it really hasn't done any better against the Sharingan. Simply: Sasuke should be able to anticipate Naruto's movements. Chakra arms aren't breaching the defences of the Kanzentai Susano'o' nor are they getting beneath Sasuke's standing point as the Sharingan provides coverage on chakra colour even beneath the surface. Now Naruto would naturally resort to the use of Kage bunshin but they are to little help against the Rin'negan as not only do they possesses the same offences as the original Naruto but operate similarly----that is to say that they would be taking the same course of action as the original Naruto against Sasuke and would eventually be dispersed by something such as Shinra Tensei shock-waves. Sasuke also has Kirin to his aid which could be followed jointly by the Rain trigger technique which the Rin'negan offers to accurately pinpoint Naruto or his Kage-bunshin's locations at any given time. Physical contact with the Kyuubi's Cloak is sufficient for Ningendo's soul removal technique; Rikudo's Doujutsu offers so many possibilities, though I am more inclined to think that Chakra pools may be the determining factor of this match and even in that case, the Kyuubi's Yoton has it's limits.
 

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Seems legit.
All these insane boosts ar giving me headache.
A nerf down for equal footing would be better.

Naruto would be weaker than sasuke without kurama. So I doubt that kind of nerf would work.
 

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PS is his full strength he said it himself. So this means that even though he has rinnegan techniques his PS is his best technique. If he could use the techniques you mentioned so efficiently he would have easily defeated hashirama by now.

I do agree with the edit part though.

I'm not even going to go into that PS discussion... Anyway @bold.

. Hashirama is the only one in that fight . Next week we'll see whether or not madara .
 

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In the very very remote possibility that Sasuke obtains the Rinnegan, the bigger question is: will he be able to use it efficiently since he has no more time to train.


The Rin'negan grants the user varying abilities derived from it's six segments and 7th ability. These abilities thus far do not require 'training' of any sort but rather that the desired user is in possession of the Dōjutsu itself. Nagato having access to and utilizing it's power before having trained in basic Ninjutsu highlights that fact.

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In terms of inefficiency there is little pointing towards that.
 
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I'm not even going to go into that PS discussion... Anyway @bold.

. Hashirama is the only one in that fight . Next week we'll see whether or not madara .

Hashirama wanted to quickly dash there to help the SA. Obviously hashirama isn't strong enough to defeat madara in an instant and aid the SA. this is the reason he was begging madara to move. hashirama never mentioned anything about ending the fight especially given the fact that he has not used his strongest technique.
 

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Absorbing senjutsu powered techniques will not cause Sasuke any petrification [Preta absorbing: Senpou Goemon, Senjutsu infused Fuuton: Rasenshuriken's], meaning that all Bijuu Dama and Rasengan type techniques would be absorbed and the said chakra could be added Sasuke's existing chakra pools. Ay's speed and Taijutsu while in Raiton V1 is almost on Par with Naruto's in Kyuubi Mode [ ] yet the sharingan easily anticipated his attacks [ ] and the same goes for him anticipating and reacting by setting up defences against V2 as well [something Naruto barely evaded] [ ]. The Mangekyou has also been shown to effortlessly anticipate Raiton V2 via Madara. Bijuu mode was also anticipated by the Mangekyou [ ] and it really hasn't done any better against the Sharingan. Simply: Sasuke should be able to anticipate Naruto's movements. Chakra arms aren't breaching the defences of the Kanzentai Susano'o' nor are they getting beneath Sasuke's standing point as the Sharingan provides coverage on chakra colour even beneath the surface. Now Naruto would naturally resort to the use of Kage bunshin but they are to little help against the Rin'negan as not only do they possesses the same offences as the original Naruto but operate similarly----that is to say that they would be taking the same course of action as the original Naruto against Sasuke and would eventually be dispersed by something such as Shinra Tensei shock-waves. Sasuke also has Kirin to his aid which could be followed jointly by the Rain trigger technique which the Rin'negan offers to accurately pinpoint Naruto or his Kage-bunshin's locations at any given time. Physical contact with the Kyuubi's Cloak is sufficient for Ningendo's soul removal technique; Rikudo's Doujutsu offers so many possibilities, though I am more inclined to think that Chakra pools may be the determining factor of this match and even in that case, the Kyuubi's Yoton has it's limits.


Don't see how you came to the conclusion that the possibility of the senjutsu back lashes
( regarding turning into a frog ) is of no worry to sasuke. Even when we saw Preta Path absorb the FRS we clearly see it being capable of breathing the barrier for a moment[ ]. Not even taking into consideration of Naruto pouring more senjutsu chakra into his FRS and making it stronger[ ] means the more senjutsu chakra sasuke is taking in which means absorbing much more than usual and the fact that the power is amplified thus making it possibly for FRS as we saw against Preta path breach the Preta barrier that sasuke will use. You bring up Kcm naruto and compare Ay's taijutsu and speed to Kcm naruto which is pointless here considering Naruto is combining Sage mode + Bm which puts him way in another league from way back then when we compare him to Kcm naruto and when he fought Ay. Your problem is your not taking the sage mode enhancement's into considering but sole the kyuubi's effect here which isnt the case. Anyway's sasuke was able to keep up with Ay's v1 speed but it was't permanent either. Sasuke never reacted nor anticipated v2.. The reason why he put up Amaterasu was because he couldnt keep up with Ay's v2 speed thus why kirin saids in that same scan ''Raikage's are impossibly fast! but this way sasuek is protected even IF he cant follow the raikages movements! Again what is the point of bring up kcm naruto barely able to evade Ay's v2? This is BM naruto combined with Sage mode. Your argument is futile as this is a new naruto. The kcm naruto that confronted Ay is petty compared to the naruto currently. yet you dont even take into account of the scan before that which clearly which logically should had given Madara enough to pull up his face since naruto was coming in a different formation and not on the ground. Even so I guess you have a point but you left out the part where . I would R.I.P the rest of your petty post but I just killed you and now im going to close the casket. Clown.
 

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Naruto would be weaker than sasuke without kurama. So I doubt that kind of nerf would work.
Then Naruto could get something related to his elemental affinity or Uzumaki heritage (efficient usage of life force, sealing techs, chakra chains etc.)
 

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Then Naruto could get something related to his elemental affinity or Uzumaki heritage (efficient usage of life force, sealing techs, chakra chains etc.)

No basic element can deal with amaterasu. Chakra chains can restrain susanoo but naruto must remain stationary, which means he will be vulnerable to amaterasu. Only OP sealing techniques will be of any use. And if naruto gets that it will be back to stage one.
 

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Lol I knew this was your thread instantly when I saw turn up. Why are you always so cool? :shy:

OT: I concur with you lad.
 

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Don't see how you came to the conclusion that the possibility of the senjutsu back lashes
( regarding turning into a frog ) is of no worry to sasuke. Even when we saw Preta Path absorb the FRS we clearly see it being capable of breathing the barrier for a moment[ ]. Not even taking into consideration of Naruto pouring more senjutsu chakra into his FRS and making it stronger[ ] means the more senjutsu chakra sasuke is taking in which means absorbing much more than usual and the fact that the power is amplified thus making it possibly for FRS as we saw against Preta path breach the Preta barrier that sasuke will use. You bring up Kcm naruto and compare Ay's taijutsu and speed to Kcm naruto which is pointless here considering Naruto is combining Sage mode + Bm which puts him way in another league from way back then when we compare him to Kcm naruto and when he fought Ay. Your problem is your not taking the sage mode enhancement's into considering but sole the kyuubi's effect here which isnt the case. Anyway's sasuke was able to keep up with Ay's v1 speed but it was't permanent either. Sasuke never reacted nor anticipated v2.. The reason why he put up Amaterasu was because he couldnt keep up with Ay's v2 speed thus why kirin saids in that same scan ''Raikage's are impossibly fast! but this way sasuek is protected even IF he cant follow the raikages movements! Again what is the point of bring up kcm naruto barely able to evade Ay's v2? This is BM naruto combined with Sage mode. Your argument is futile as this is a new naruto. The kcm naruto that confronted Ay is petty compared to the naruto currently. yet you dont even take into account of the scan before that which clearly which logically should had given Madara enough to pull up his face since naruto was coming in a different formation and not on the ground. Even so I guess you have a point but you left out the part where . I would R.I.P the rest of your petty post but I just killed you and now im going to close the casket. Clown.

Naruto still doesn't have minato's half of the kyuubi. When minato gives this to naruto, i think he will be on hashirama/madara level if not above them because his power SHOULD literally double and he will still be able to fuse sage mode with this too.

Naruto is getting more and more OP right now, and eventually he will get minato's half and I hope we get to see a new design for naruto when he finally uses the fully complete kyuubi version.

Naruto's main abilities/forms so far:

SM enhance all naruto's abilities and stops his opponents from taking his chakra unless they can control natural chakra

- BSM/BM/KCM/SM
- Tbb in BSM form
- Giant rasengan in BSM form
- Tbb
- Tailed Beast Reasengan (KCM mode)
- Rasenshuriken
- Giant/oodama rasengan
- Frog summons
- KM/SM clones
- Frog song - genjutsu
- Frog kata
- Immune to genjutsu
- 2nd fastest foot speed (3rd/4th fastest speed overall)
- Sensor
- Healing somewhat

And like I said when naruto gets minato's half, he SHOULD be twice as strong and his chakra will double for sure.

Where do you think naruto will stand when he gets minato's half of kyuubi?
 

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Be turnt up as much as you like. Chibaku Tensei solos.
 

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Hashirama wanted to quickly dash there to help the SA. Obviously hashirama isn't strong enough to defeat madara in an instant and aid the SA. this is the reason he was begging madara to move. hashirama never mentioned anything about ending the fight especially given the fact that he has not used his strongest technique.

No. . If he could've beat madara he would have. Shinshuu is his strongest tech but it , let alone EDO - especially when it . Hashi has nothing to take out EDO madara right now, he'd more than likely kill SA with Shinshuu before ever incapacitating Mads. Believe it or not, but EDO hashirama is camping his second strongest tech right now. It's highly unlikely he can ever get past MAdara considering he was near death the last time they fought...
 

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@ Prince Charles: It will obviously breach as the absorption takes place within the barrier [ -> ] it is the same thing taking place in your scan. 'Senjutsu' isn't the pure Shizen Enerugi responsible for petrification but rather a blend of the individuals Yoton and Inton with the said energy, thus, strengthening their ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. This is why Gakido was able to able to absorb Jiraiya's Goemon and SM Naruto's Rasen-Shuriken without turning toad. I am aware of the advantages of Sennin Modo...My Issue is: Sage mode doesn't make Naruto any 'faster'----was simply establishing the fact that Sasuke should be able to anticipate his movements.

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The reason why he put up Amaterasu was because he couldnt keep up with Ay's v2 speed thus why kirin saids in that same scan ''Raikage's are impossibly fast! but this way sasuek is protected even IF he cant follow the raikages movements!

Nope, with careful observation you would have realized that Sasuke saw Ay before he actually landed the attack. Naruto has utilized Shunshin in the air against both Kisame and Ay so the latter part of your post is really speculation. xd
 
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I actually am. Continuous Jutsu absorption > TBB and pretty much anything else Naruto has got.

So your saying preta path will comfortably absorb multiple bijuu damas and naruto will just stand their :|. Preta path took it's sweet time absorbing FRS.



same goes for when edo nagato used preta



yet you think sasuke will be capable of absorbing multiple bijuu dama's with preta path lol. TBB obliterates chibaku tensei. preta path isnt that fast to absorb all incoming continuous bijuu damas. slap yourself.
 
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