[VS] Tobirama vs Itachi. Beautiful match-up.

[Prince Charles]

I think the deciding factor would be genjutsu on Itachis part.

 

[deidara senpai]

You definitely proved it would be close

Tobirama can potentially take this if he was able to touch itachi, if so while in V3 form of Susano, he can teleport their and thunder slash him

 

[Made in Heaven]

This is nice and all, but I say Itachi wins, but only barely. The counters make plenty of sense though

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I think the deciding factor would be genjutsu on Itachis part.

Already countered that.

Genjutsu is avoided by:

1. Sensing

2. Speed

3. Clones

Choose your pick, any of the 3 work.

 

[Kaede]

Oh dear Tobirama [see what I did there?] this is going to turn into a flame fest. :|

No! No! NO! What are you doing?!

Oh dear Deidara [see what I did there?] this is going to turn into a flame fest. :|

That's better.

 

[Prince Charles]

Already countered that.

Genjutsu is avoided by:

1. Sensing

2. Speed

3. Clones

Choose your pick, any of the 3 work.

You must be registered for see images

 

[Made in Heaven]

call me when he can fodderize Oro no diff and beat Kabuto without killing him (like a certain person did)

ABC logic from an Itachi fapboy? Well, what do you know.

 

[Fodder#4]

call me when he can fodderize Oro no diff and beat Kabuto without killing him (like a certain person did)

Tobirama's cheap combo that actually allows him to defeat a plethora of opponents is his insane paper bomb explosion. While some might argue that it's only suppose to be used with Edo Tensei; it works just like a normal summoning. Nothing prevents Tobirama from deploying the strategy below on MOST opponents. It won't work on all.

Tobirama conjures up two shadow clones. One he marks with the FTG seal. This shadow clone now uses the somewhat impressive shushin in the opposite direction of the opponent.

Next, both the Shadow Clone and Tobirama head in to fight this opponent. Last minute, Tobirama uses the paper bomb seal on his clone [Honestly, it could be the ground or anything. A clone just seems more likely to me] and then warps back to his fleeing Shadow Clone. Leaving his foe facing a large explosion.

 

[Bogard]

Tobirama would win low-mid difficulty. He is a tier above Itachi imo

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Paper bomb ain't needed.

Kage Bunshin + Edos + FTG is OP as fu ck already.

 

[Fodder#4]

Tobirama would win low-mid difficulty. He is a tier above Itachi imo

Now you're just trying to rustle jimmies....

 

[Penguin]

Tobirama would win low-mid difficulty. He is a tier above Itachi imo

Damn. Just damn.

No! No! NO! What are you doing?!



That's better.

I was going to say "Oh dear god" but switched it with Tobirama! :x3:

You definitely proved it would be close

Tobirama can potentially take this if he was able to touch itachi, if so while in V3 form of Susano, he can teleport their and thunder slash him

Thanks!

I think the deciding factor would be genjutsu on Itachis part.

I kind of see where your coming from. Just them clones, FTG, sensing, and Kai. I thought Susano'o would be the thing to screw Tobirama.

This is nice and all, but I say Itachi wins, but only barely. The counters make plenty of sense though

I can see that.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Already countered that.

Genjutsu is avoided by:

1. Sensing

2. Speed

3. Clones

Choose your pick, any of the 3 work.

considering that Hiruzen who normally can make 2 clones made 0 Tobirma can make 4 clones (simply math) (isn't a huge amount even a dying Itachi can make 2 or even 3)

if you have to avoid looking into the opponents eye your speed will decrease this is totally logical

sensing is ok but what can he do when he senses that Itachi's gonna use Amaterasu?
use a suiton jutsu?
won't work because the Black Flames can burn anything including water
ftg?
Itachi has a sharingan he will see where are the markings and he will know where Tobirama teleports so it won't save him a crow clone can prepare a second amaterasu or a katon jutsu or a genjutsu or the totsuka to seal Tobirama

Itachi takes this

 

[Zexion~]

Lol Itachi wins my man, people always say Genjutsu kai can break out of his lesser ones, yet Oro who has a 5 in Genjutsu could not break out of it without getting his arm chopped off, same could happen to tobirama,

And the Amertarasu counter is a little shaky but all in all Good thread

 

[Bogard]

Now you're just trying to rustle jimmies....

Not really. Itachi's main problem is stamina. He would need Susanoo in order to have a chance to survive against Tobirama's speed and panel of jutsu(multiple shadow clones, hiraishin and so on), and one marking on his body and it's over for him.

Tobirama has practically no stamina problem because of his Senju DNA and his incredible life force. He could easily outlast Itachi.

Genjutsu is useless against a sensor because they can sense where the chakra is focus(he was even able to notice the chakra responsible of the sharingan activation on Uchihas in order to explain it to Sasuke), so he would know beforehand when Itachi would even try sharingan genjutsu. It's also useless on clones. Not even mentioning explosive edos that dwarfed even Bijuu size summons like Gamakichi. Tbh Itachi has no hope at winning the way i see it

 

[Fodder#4]

Lol Itachi wins my man, people always say Genjutsu kai can break out of his lesser ones, yet Oro who has a 5 in Genjutsu could not break out of it without getting his arm chopped off, same could happen to tobirama,

And the Amertarasu counter is a little shaky but all in all Good thread

Orochimaru was a bit close, don't you say? If he was a few feet back he would have broken out of it in time to not lose a limb

Not really. Itachi's main problem is stamina. He would need Susanoo in order to have a chance to survive against Tobirama's speed and panel of jutsu(multiple shadow clones, hiraishin and so on), and one marking on his body and it's over for him.

Tobirama has practically no stamina problem because of his Senju DNA and his incredible life force. He could easily outlast Itachi.

Genjutsu is useless against a sensor because they can sense where the chakra is focus(he was even able to notice the chakra responsible of the sharingan activation on Uchihas in order to explain it to Sasuke), so he would know beforehand when Itachi would even try sharingan genjutsu. It's also useless on clones. Not even mentioning explosive edos that dwarfed even Bijuu size summons like Gamakichi. Tbh Itachi has no hope at winning the way i see it

Well.. Not gonna argue with that...

 

[Kaede]

I was going to say "Oh dear god" but switched it with Tobirama! :x3:

Deidara IS a God.

He can make fireworks out of his hands:

You must be registered for see images

And look at 'dat hair. Simply magnificent.

 

[Penguin]

Lol Itachi wins my man, people always say Genjutsu kai can break out of his lesser ones, yet Oro who has a 5 in Genjutsu could not break out of it without getting his arm chopped off, same could happen to tobirama,

And the Amertarasu counter is a little shaky but all in all Good thread

Ya. The only counter I could think of was FTG, but thought maybe a Suiton could stall it enough for Tobirama to move.

Tobirama has stronger chakra than Orochimaru though. I think Tobirama's is strong enough to break out of any genjutsu Itachi has bar Tsukuyomi and Izanami.

Thanks for le feedback.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

How can Susanoo screw Tobirama when it can't even touch him?

Tobirama has a mini army.

He's a senju. He already showed MASSIVE chakra levels based on the fact that he could make 2 clones even with that barrier, which is shown to reduce the chakra levels of the user -DRAMATICALLY-. A Sage Mode Hashirama whose chakra is comparable to a bijuu's ( his own words ) could only make 5 Mokubunshins whereas Madara could make 25 + 25 Susanoos. That's 25 kage level clones whereas Hashirama could only make 5, even though wood is -HIS- element and he has much -HIGHER- chakras than Madara.

This mini army of Tobirama's is touched by his chakra at all times, meaning he can move anywhere. He controls the battlefield- but wait, that's not all. Everyone in this mini army bar his edos ( but he can warp to them and do it himself ) can tag a piece of rock, wood, ground and further create even -MORE- places for Tobirama to warp. It's like Itachi will be swarmed by 20 flies which he can't hit.

What can Itachi do? Not using Susanoo means he gets killed by paperbomb jutsu or tagged.

Using Susanoo simply prolongs the inevitable as he can't hit anyone. He goes for someone, that someone warps to someone else. Susanoo is too slow to match FTG's speed.

Genjutsu? Not only will Tobirama sense it coming ( leaving Itachi with only his finger genjutsu which is featless since it was used on one of the worst genjutsu users ), but he can also purely dodge it via speed. But wait, there's even more. How will Itachi distinguish between the clones? He won't.

The only reason Tobirama wins this with mid diff is because it will take a while for Itachi to run out of juice. But itachi can't hit him, so no way in hell this is high diff.

Tobirama is a tier above Itachi.

 

[Prince Charles]

Lol at people taking that clown BoLame seriously :leaf: His main argument for Tobirama winning is itachis so called stamina problem which is false.