[Discussion] Sayan arc Vegeta or Namek arc Krillin

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Ah didn't notice, but you know, acts says more than talking especially concerning someone as cocky as Vegeta. But if it really is the case, then surely a Krillin with 4times his power level could as well :)

Yeah, Krillin still fodderizes no doubt.
But I'm just saying he could blast the Earth. Or could at least put it into critical state.
 

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Not canon.

Mate.

This is a compilation of several lists, including the one that the 7th Daizenshu gives, trying to be faithful to the supposedly "official levels" that occurred in this databook approved by Toriyama.
 

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i no krillin got a boost from guru, but he was still weaker than gohan after gohan got his boost, and it was stated that gohan was the same power lvl as vegeta when they were on earth after gohan got his boost... also krillin never got a boost after guru gave him a boost he got brave enough to attack freeza but that is not a boost in power just confidence... also vegeta's power lvl on earth was 18000.... and ginue didnt even come close to unlocking a small percent of goku's power, and it was mainly gohan and vegeta that brought goku/genyu down...
Never said Ginue came close to use Goku's power, but even the small power he was capable to use was still over 20.000 so over Vegeta's power level during the sayan arc(18.000 like you said yourself). And no, Krillin was beating the shit out of him during their fight and only reason Ginue was even still alive was because Krillin was hesitating to kill him because he was seeing Goku through him, something that Vegeta said himself. Also, where is it said Gohan had the same power as Vegeta's during the sayan arc? And you also missed my point where i said Krillin grew even much stronger after the boost during the same arc(noticed by Vegeta again)
 

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Mate.

This is a compilation of several lists, including the one that the 7th Daizenshu gives, trying to be faithful to the supposedly "official levels" that occurred in this databook approved by Toriyama.

Frieza Saga
~Gohan and Krillin vs Frieza's Henchmen~
Gohan: 14,000
Krillin: 13,000
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Krillin,after Guru’s power up: 19,000
Gohan, after Guru’s power up: 24,000
Vegeta: 30,000

This is the ''official'' one. Straight from Databook.
 

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Saiyan Arc Oozaru Vegeta = Ginyu, Krillin gets raped
 

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Saiyan Arc Oozaru Vegeta = Ginyu, Krillin gets raped
Tayouken:
Destructo disk:
Bye bye Oozaru Vegeta. Btw how strong was Oozaru Vegeta? I think i forgot
 

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Tayouken:
Destructo disk:
Bye bye Oozaru Vegeta. Btw how strong was Oozaru Vegeta? I think i forgot

180 000. As strong as Ginyu.
 

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Yeah, I did mix them. But spamming is still an option.
+ Krillin can still solo before that.

Not really... Krillin can't spam... hasn't shown this feat, hasn't shown tremendous speed, nor stamina... he is, and always has been the support character. Vegeta's entire mindset is totally different. He enjoys fighting and enjoys sadism... has more stamina and speed.

Plus Oozaru is GG... it was actually quite fast, remember? even Goku couldn't keep up. Goku kaio-ken times 4, a spirit bomb and ganging up on Vegeta proved already difficult... Plot won most of this battle...

A deathmatch between them would be in favor of Vegeta.
 

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Tayouken:
Destructo disk:
Bye bye Oozaru Vegeta. Btw how strong was Oozaru Vegeta? I think i forgot

Vegeta could sense the destructo disk. Something Freeza and his men never learned. They relied on scouters.

And wasn't vegeta blinded in the battle once?
 

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180 000. As strong as Ginyu.
Oh really? Hmm i guess he beats Krillin in this form then. But Krillin can surely kill him before that. He didn't really looked that much stronger in Ape form in the manga though, curious. Goku even managed to crush his eye with a ki attack when he was supposed to be far lower in strength

Vegeta could sense the destructo disk. Something Freeza and his men never learned. They relied on scouters.

And wasn't vegeta blinded in the battle once?
Didn't remember Vegeta could already sense attacks during the sayan arc? He needed his scouter for that
 

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Oh really? Hmm i guess he beats Krillin in this form then. But Krillin can surely kill him before that. He didn't really looked that much stronger in Ape form in the manga though, curious. Goku even managed to crush his eye with a ki attack when he was supposed to be far lower in strength

Didn't remember Vegeta could already sense attacks during the sayan arc? He needed his scouter for that

No, he learned it while on earth... want me to find scan?

EDIT: it's clearly in the series as well.. he contemplated on it while Goku was able to raise his hidden power level against Nappa.
 

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Not really... Krillin can't spam... hasn't shown this feat, hasn't shown tremendous speed, nor stamina... he is, and always has been the support character. Vegeta's entire mindset is totally different. He enjoys fighting and enjoys sadism... has more stamina and speed.
He sure as well can. Even almost killed second form Freezer form with it:



Concerning speed and agility, Krillin has been portrayed to be one of the best because of his size that makes him faster and more agile. Even with a power level far lower than Nappa's, he was capable to dodge and counter him, with Vegeta complimenting him from his swiftness
 

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He sure as well can. Even almost killed second form Freezer form with it:


OK. :D Agreed.
 

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No, he learned it while on earth... want me to find scan?

EDIT: it's clearly in the series as well.. he contemplated on it while Goku was able to raise his hidden power level against Nappa.
Yes i want the scan, cuz so far i remember he was always relying on his scounter. He never calculated Goku's hidden power, he was only supposing judging by the fact he noticed earthlings were capable to hide their power
 
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