Should a soon-to-be father get to say no if a woman wants an abortion?

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This is something I was debating with someone over the Internet recently, because I have nothing better to do with my time. In the event that two people have a one night stand and the woman gets pregnant but just decides to abort it, should the man be able to say "No, I'll take the baby myself, you can't abort it." ?

Personally I believe he should be able to, because maybe he wants to be a father. Hell if I could carry the baby myself I would but no that's a woman's job.

What do you guys think?

Also I understand I only have one side to the story but I'm not interested in the tired old talks.
 

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I think it should be obvious that he gets a say in it.
 

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No, her body her choice

but there are arguments for both sides
 

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I believe he has the right to, as it's his baby, his DNA, his sperm... whatever you call it. Cause as you said, what if he wants the baby. I'd never accept for a child to be aborted, I'll take him lel.

No, her body her choice

but there are arguments for both sides

His sperm, his baby.
 

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He gets a say in it, doesn't mean that she'll comply though.
 
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He should be allowed to, that unborn child is his as well regardless if its in the mother's body.
 

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Definitely. He helped create that child, he should absolutely have a say in whether it lives or dies.
 

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The man has EVERY RIGHT to say no. that is also his child.
 

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I don't think he should have a say in it, and for several reasons. One, it's not his vagina, and he's not gonna be the one that's going to carry it for nine months. Two, we have enough stupid people on the planet as it is, and one night stand babies are sure as hell not gonna figure out the cure for cancer.
 
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Yes.... He can choose to have the baby, but he can get a "transplanted ovarium" and have the kid, without having any damage in his body... while a woman's body is never the same after giving birth... I's almost as if it would start fading... mainly that's it...

PS: sorry for English errors
 

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He should get a say in it, but the choice relies more heavily on the mother because it' HER body that has to go through the whole tiring,painful process of having a baby and has to deal with more of the consequences due to that. Plus, if it's only a one night stand, I doubt the father has that much of an emotional connection to her or the baby anyways.
 

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I don't think he should have a say in it, and for several reasons. One, it's not his vagina, and he's not gonna be the one that's going to carry it for nine months. Two, we have enough stupid people on the planet as it is, and one night stand babies are sure as hell not gonna figure out the cure for cancer.

Oh? And you know this. . .how?

So to make this clear, no child that was born from poor circumstances can make a contribution to society. Got it.


He should get a say in it, but the choice relies more heavily on the mother because it' HER body that has to go through the whole tiring,painful process of having a baby and has to deal with more of the consequences due to that. Plus, if it's only a one night stand, I doubt the father has that much of an emotional connection to her or the baby anyways.

In this hypothetical, he would have an emotional connection.

As far as the other part, I understand that the woman has to go through the whole process of birthing the child and everything but if she was that worried she should keep her legs closed.
 
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I am against abortion so yeah he should be able to say no
 

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It's a group decision.

Though, even if it Is his creation; a woman shouldn't have to face the greatest pain she'll ever feel because her partner wants her to.
 
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Shouldn't have casually made a baby with someone that would change his/her mind later on. Make up your mind before you selfishly create a baby. Then again, this was probably a unexpected pregnancy.
 

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Oh? And you know this. . .how?

So to make this clear, no child that was born from poor circumstances can make a contribution to society. Got it.




In this hypothetical, he would have an emotional connection.

As far as the other part, I understand that the woman has to go through the whole process of birthing the child and everything but if she was that worried she should keep her legs closed.

Just because she acted immature once doesn't mean she should be forced through the pain of child birth and possibly ruin her body. I don't find that fair at all. If he really wanted a child, he should have done so in a committed relationship or at least with a woman that wants to go through it so the blame game goes both ways. U_U

Let's not forget, we are facing overpopulation and economic difficulties, having children should be something that is no longer encouraged anyways.
 

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Just because she acted immature once doesn't mean she should be forced through the pain of child birth and possibly ruin her body. I don't find that fair at all. If he really wanted a child, he should have done so in a committed relationship or at least with a woman that wants to go through it so the blame game goes both ways. U_U

Let's not forget, we are facing overpopulation and economic difficulties, having children should be something that is no longer encouraged anyways.

The cure for overpopulation is either war or plagues.
 
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While both parents contribute roughly equal quantities of DNA or genetic instructions to a conception, all the biological hardware, the natural nanotechnology responsible for carrying out those instructions, come from the woman’s ovum. And, after the built-in food resources of the ovum are used up, during the “morula” development stage, and the young human organism/blastocyst seeks more resources for further growth, via womb-implantation, all those additional resources will come from the woman, too.

Suppose a woman invested $100,000 of down-payment toward a boat, and some man invested $1. Also, the woman makes all other regular payments, plus extra payments for maintenance and insurance and improvements in the boat, while the man directly contributes nothing. If that man claimed half-ownership of the boat strictly on the basis of his investment, he would be laughed out of court. Therefore, since a man contributes so little to a pregnancy the man deserves equally-little say in whether or not a pregnancy should be carried to term.

In more practical terms, if a man deserves to be a father, it won’t be because he helped at the start of a pregnancy; it will be because he will be there to more-than-help, he will be there in a major supporting role, for many years afterward –and he will have found some ethical way to convince the woman of that. Why do some abortion opponents so often hypocritically focus on the woman, and not on the man, whose behavior is often a major factor in why the woman seeks an abortion? In other words, if abortion opponents want to really succeed at reducing the abortion rate, they need act more intelligently, and attack all the fundamental causes, not just only the simple fact that an unwanted pregnancy exists. Because that’s not the only factor involved, that leads to abortion, by far!
 
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