Onmyoudon: The Single Most Important Thing in Naruto

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As the title says. Onmyoudon is the most important thing in Naruto's world. Onmyoudon is the reason people are able to use Ninjutsu. Allow me to explain.



Now, in order to fully understand what I am going to say you need to know what exactly I think the Juubi, the Tailed Beasts, and the Sage to be.


I have written threads on these topics.

The Tailed Beasts


The Juubi


The Sage


If you would like to read them, please go ahead, but for those who didn't I will summarize. The premise of those threads was to show why all Ninjutsu(including KG) stem from the Juubi and why the So6P's was not able to utilize Ninjutsu (not Senjutsu or Fuinjutsu, I mean elemental ninjutsu) until after his fight with the Juubi.



So let's get into it...​


PART 1: Onmyoudon​


First: What is Onmyoudon?

It is a way of thought incorporating the yin-yang balance and balance through five elements (earth, water, fire, metal and wood) using prevalent Taoist practices. It was brought to Japan by Buddhist monks.

Of course in our story, metal and wood are replaced by lightning and wind, and wood is made into a KG, but the 5 element concept is the same.


Second: What is Onmyoudon in relation to Naruto?

Well there are two things we know.

One, we have this. Onmyoudon makes Ninjutsu useless.
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Two, the Onmyoudon stems from the Juubi. How can we know that? Well, Obito was not impervious to Ninjutsu before sealing the Juubi within himself and now he is; interestingly though, he is not impervious to Senjutsu, but I will get into that later.


So why is this so important you may ask? Well, if we can assume Onmyoudon stems from the Juubi, then...

A. The Sage MUST have used Senjutsu to weaken and seal the Juubi, otherwise he could not have damaged it. I am under the belief that not only did he use Senjutsu to beat the Juubi, but he HAD to because he could not use Ninjutsu yet. This was explained in my thread "The Sage" at the top so I will not go into too much detail.

B. Upon sealing the Juubi, the Sage himself would have unlocked this Onmyoudon.




Part 'B' brings up a very interesting point and I will tell you why.. If we can accept the fact that the source of making Ninjutsu obsolete, Onmyoudon, stems from the Juubi, then do you think it is merely a coincidence that Ninjutsu was born after it was sealed? Of course not..

Sage defeating the source of what is the Onmyoudon
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Sage going on to teach the world Ninshu
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Onmyoudon is the "knowledge" granted from the Juubi or Nature itself. It is the "knowledge" on how to control Nature, or the elements, in one's self. That is the reason it can make Ninjutsu obsolete. Because it is the foundation of Ninjutsu. It can create or destroy it. YIN and YANG.



PART 2: THE THEORY

The Sage...
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...being of Uzumaki heritage, excelled in the Fuinjutsu his clan specializes in..
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...and sought to find balance in his war-torn era.
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He found his answer through meditation or collecting Natural Chakra (Remember at this point ELEMENTAL techniques are still unbeknownst to him). How he came to find this truth is still a mystery to me. There are of course places in which one can learn to harness the power of Nature...but I digress. Studying and practicing this new path he realized (or sensed) that the very Nature he was using to elevate himself had been manifesting into a sentient being...The Juubi.
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POINTS TO SUPPORT MY POINTS: FACT INTERJECTION

In fact, the very idea of the Juubi having multiple forms suggests that it was 'spawned' rather than always existing as a final form.

When it began manifesting it of course looked like this..
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Then as the Natural Chakra keeps manifesting it began to look like this..
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Then of course it collects more..
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...until it MANIFESTS completely into a final form. Meaning it wasn't always walking around in its final form or there would be no point in having transformations at all.


When they Kyuubi says this...
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...he is literally referring to what Nature does, not necessarily the formed Juubi. Nature and the Juubi are one in the same.

It was obvious why the Juubi had begun to form. "Man" had ravaged the land with its constant wars and extended its borders beyond what it needed to survive...

FACT INTERJECTION- Onmyoudon's (remember this represents the Juubi) views on "the Natural World"

"However, in many cases habitations are not occurrences of nature itself but instead attempts to control nature and bend it to the will of whomever might wish to be shielded. This is true for all animals, humans included, and too widespread a habitation often intrudes upon others. Humans are most guilty of extending their cities, towns, and villages far outside of their need, which can make it difficult to live for both humans and any other creatures who happen to be near."

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...so Nature sought to defend itself. The Sage knew what the Juubi was and what it intended to do (whipe out man to protect itself). However, he felt that Man just needed more time to live in harmony with eachother and by extention with the land. So, buying time for mankind, he sealed the Juubi, knowing that someday it would be pieced back together...
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...and by that time man would have learned to cease the constant wars and bloodshed. The Sage, using his understanding of Senjutsu and Fuinjutsu defeated and sealed the Juubi within himself granting him a new power, the Rinnengan.
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He had now defeated and sealed the source of the Onmyoudon and realized he had the ability to use chakra as he pleased without having to gather Natural chakra from the Earth...it was now inside of him at his disposal.

FACT INTERJECTION: Why the Rinnengan is the Rinnengan.

Remember the Juubi is nature.

And nature is nothing more than the elements; earth, water, wind, fire and lightning.

And what is Onmyoudon? It is the balancing of the 5 elements.

And what does the Rinnengan do? It gives one power of the five elements.

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The Rinnengan comes from the Juubi, nature, whatever you want to call it. It is the eye of the Onmyouji.

FACT INSIDE A FACT: The Sharingan

There is a reason the Sharingan can master all types of Jutsu.
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If you haven't noticed by now, the Sharingan comes from the Juubi and the reason it can read through all Ninjutsu is simple. Ninjutsu comes from the Juubi.

The Sage had now become a god and the first onmyouji or one who practices onmyoudou (I implore all of you to read up on the subject, particularly about Abe no Seimei who was interestingly birthed by a demon fox mother). Now that he was the master of yin-yang balance, chakra and the 5 elements he could now teach others the secrets of harnessing their own power. And now, with this easier method of chakra control, and without the crux of the Juubi's Onmyoudon, Sage Art or Senjutsu had become unnecessary and a rare and unpracticed art lost to the ages. The rest as they say, is history....

If you were able to finish the thanks for reading*_*
 
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Good thread and a even better username.
 

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ok, I have no idea why anyone would go to such length just to bring this up, but it seems quite plausible
 

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Not bad, but I would like to say that the juubi is not immune to ninjutsu. I still also believe the sage was not an uzumaki because simply: Uzumaki, Senju, and Uchiha did not exist at his time.

Anyways, ninjutsu does affect the juubi. Madara, Obito and Sasuke along with naruto where able to control and or harm the juubi with ninjutsu.
 

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Not bad, but I would like to say that the juubi is not immune to ninjutsu. I still also believe the sage was not an uzumaki because simply: Uzumaki, Senju, and Uchiha did not exist at his time.

Anyways, ninjutsu does affect the juubi. Madara, Obito and Sasuke along with naruto where able to control and or harm the juubi with ninjutsu.

Hey thanks for the read..and replying.

To your point. I don't think Madara or Obito used any elemental ninjutsu techniques against the Juubi. They simply were able to control it in its most weakend form. Naruto I can't remember using anything directly against it and Sasuke's Amaterasu hit the Juubi when he was sealed with the Hokages techniques. However, he was easily able to shed it. I don't think that means it would have burned. Look how easily Obito was able to dust off those flames.

In order to show the Juubi is impervious to Ninjutsu I need only to show this page
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One things debunks this though. Why is it that a senju needs uchiha DNA to get the rinnegan or vice versa? Surely the only way going by your theory is to be a juubi Jin. Madara's way of getting rinnegan goes against it. Furthermore, Obito who is currently the juubi Jin still has a sharingan, why? If we go by your theory he should now have the juubi's power also in the form of the rinnegan but we see he still has te sharingan.
 

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One things debunks this though. Why is it that a senju needs uchiha DNA to get the rinnegan or vice versa? Surely the only way going by your theory is to be a juubi Jin. Madara's way of getting rinnegan goes against it. Furthermore, Obito who is currently the juubi Jin still has a sharingan, why? If we go by your theory he should now have the juubi's power also in the form of the rinnegan but we see he still has te sharingan.

Well I explained this in a lot more detail in my "Sage" thread but I will do my best to summarize. Once the Sage obtained the Rinnengan, through becoming the Juubi's JIN and having Uzumaki blood, he then passed down the "ingredients" for duplicating this feat through the blood of his sons (or creations as some would tell you). The Uchiha and Senju are both pieces of what is the complete Sage with the Juubi; separated they don't have the Rinnengan, but combined, as the tablet says, they become 2 parts of a whole...or the completed Sage.

To your other point. There could be several reasons both of Obito's eyes haven't changed. First, if you look at him, you will see the two sides of his body look different indicating he is not yet done transforming. When he is complete we will see. However, the other reason may be due to his blood. He comes from a part of the Juubi. It is possible that his Sharingan will never evolve to Rinnengan (although I doubt this) because he is not the same as the Sage, a pure Uzumaki.
 
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Excellent work and great theory. What are your thoughts on Fuinjutsu? What you say about Senjutsu sounds plausible and one could theorize that Genjutsu operates outside the realm of nature and would have effect, but why would the Juubi be subject to Fuinjutsu? Spirit trumps nature?
 
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One things debunks this though. Why is it that a senju needs uchiha DNA to get the rinnegan or vice versa?

Because the Uchiha and Senju Ancestors are literally the Yin and Yang of the Jūbi created with Banbutsu Sozō

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Combine the Yin and Yang and one is able to awaken the Rinnegan like Madara did.
 
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Excellent work and great theory. What are your thoughts on Fuinjutsu? What you say about Senjutsu sounds plausible and one could theorize that Genjutsu operates outside the realm of nature and would have effect, but why would the Juubi be subject to Fuinjutsu?

Hey thanks for reading.

This is a good point, and its tough to say. Since I believe the Uzumaki are the eldest clan (at least of the clans we know) and they specialize in Fuinjutsu, that would lead me to believe that Fuinjutsu outdates Ninjutsu. Now, I'm not sure why it falls out of the Juubi's realm or why it usurps Onmyoudou (if it even does). It's possible the Juubi was simply to weakened to resist the Sage after a fight. Another thing that's interesting is that the Hokages seemed to have no problem holding the Juubi down, so that does speak to the fact that seals seem to be on another plane. I would really like to see what happens if they try to seal Juubito, will he be able to shake it off like hes done with their Ninjutsu so far?

So I guess it boils down to this. Senjutsu outdates Ninjutsu, so it is able to harm the Juubi. Fuinjutsu (as it was created by the Uzumaki) outdates Ninjutsu, so it is able to harm the Juubi. Since the Juubi isn't the source of it, it can affect him. Why FUIN is older then NINJU...I still don't know.
 

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May I also add that Kishimoto took direct inspiration from the Onmyōdo/Onmyōji in modeling Rikūdo Sennin and the Uzumaki Clan:


I believe Kishimoto took the Onmyōdō as inspiration in writing the Uzumaki Clan and the Onmyōji Abe no Seimei as inspirations for Naruto, The Uzumakis and Rikudou Sennin, they may not be exact copies of each other but they have many similarities:


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The Onmyōdō literally translates as "The Way of Yin and Yang" is an occult system that is an amalgamation of Shintoism, Buddhism and Taoism.

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Rikudou Sennin had such mastery over the Yin–Yang Release that he used Yin to make his dreams take form, and then used Yang to make his fantasies real. He could even make them come to life.

The Onmyōji were the practitioners of Onmyōdō, The Onmyōji were specialists in magic and divination. Their court responsibilities ranged from tasks such as keeping track of the calendar, to mystical duties such as divination and protection of the capital from evil spirits. They could divine auspicious or harmful influences in the earth, and were instrumental in the moving of capitals.

The main powers of the Onmyōji are the exorcism and warding off of evil spirits, and commanding the Shikigami (Kami-like spirits)

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Just like the Uzumaki technique which summons the Shinigami: Shiki Fuujin

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Like the Shiki Fuujin, the Shikigami is summoned through a complex mystical ritual, and like the Shiki Fuujin, the Onmyōji's life and spiritual force is connected to the "Shiki" if the summoner is careless, his shikigami may get out of control in time, gaining its own will and consciousness. In this case the shikigami will raid its own master and kill him in revenge.

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The Shiki Fuujin in Naruto however kills the caster automatically:

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The powers of the Onmyōjis over demons and spirits are very similar to the Uzumaki's Fuuinjutsus

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Rikudou Sennin who is probably an Uzumaki himself vanished the most powerful demon in Narutoverse: The Juubi

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The Onmyōjis were said to possess extremely long lives and good health like the most famous Onmyōji Abe no Seimei

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Like the Uzumakis who were said to possess extremely long lives and vitality/chakra

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The most famous Onmyōji Abe no Seimei, is the son of the fox spirit (kitsune) Kuzunoha

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Naruto on the other hand is the son of Kushina, who has the nine-tailed fox sealed inside him, Kurama

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Also:

Here is an example of an Onmyōdō Spell in action, the Priest (called an Onmyōji) uses his Onmyōton to summon the Yūrei (幽霊) or ghost of a woman who continually haunts a young samurai who was her former lover. The Onmyōji then tries to perform Shōkan Fūin (召喚封印) or the sealing and banishment of the Yūrei but his client's emotions "got out of hand" and disrupted the ritual.

[video=youtube;1gpcrO43zL0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpcrO43zL0&feature=youtu.be[/video]

The Five Elements of Onmyōdō:

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I would also like to add why it is a logical certainty that the Rinnegan came from the Juubi:


This is the Viz Translation of Tobi's statement regarding the Sage, the Juubi, the Bijuus and the Moon:

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1st: The Sage divided the Chakra of the Juubi into Nine Bijuus

2nd: The Chakraless Body of the Juubi was hurled into the Sky

3rd: The Sealing Stone became the Moon

4th: The Rinnegan's Chibaku Tensei created the Moon

5th: Darui questions how a human can accomplish such a feat

6th: Tobi replies that as Juubi's Jinchuuriki, Rikudou had advanced beyond the realm of humanity.

So base on the logic of the statements, it means that Rikudou kept a remainder power of the Juubi even without the Chakra of the Juubi (which became the Nine Bijuus), and that power was used to create the Moon even when he was no longer the Jinchuuriki, the Rinnegan created the Moon through Chibaku Tensei, ergo, the remainder power of the Juubi being referred to is the Rinnegan.

Conclusion: Rinnegan came from the Juubi.
 
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