HxH may compare, but AoT is shit and nowhere near even Naruto's level. The MC is shitty and the plot is just as shitty. The concept was alright, but they only screwed an already boring anime over even more. I haven't watched HxH myself, so I can't defend Naruto there.
I can't argue with someones opinion but what you said about random powerups in HxH is not true.
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With random powerups you probably mean Gons transformation. Gon learnt from Kurapika that nen users can enforce their hatsu by vows and limitation. And on top of that, Gon is a enhancer it makes sense that he would be able to age his body and his transformation was hinted when Morel asked him to attack him like he would if he were to fight Neferpitou but Killua stopped him. You can't even call Gons transformation a powerup since he can't use it when ever he wants, he would have died if Kil didn't bring Alluka.
You made me laugh thou, Naruto fan complaining about random powerups
I know that he risked his life by mading a commitment similar to Kurapika but he didn't face any consequences eventually. This means that as long as Alluka is available, he can use that power whenever he is in a bind. Also, the power he got was greater than Netero which was absurd IMO. Netero said that Pitou was stronger than him. He was planning to sacrifice his life to kill Meruem but didn't get a similar power and only killed him because of the poison
If you don't call that random power ups then why do you say Naruto has random power ups?
I'm not saying that I didn't like the manga. I obviously enjoyed it a lot since I read all of it but the story isn't better than Naruto's. Also, while it's true that the Naruto anime is very bad right now and HxH is better, when I compare the two, I'm including part 1 Naruto. When I compare the manga only, Naruto is better.
I know that he risked his life by mading a commitment similar to Kurapika but he didn't face any consequences eventually. This means that as long as Alluka is available, he can use that power whenever he is in a bind. Also, the power he got was greater than Netero which was absurd IMO. Netero said that Pitou was stronger than him. He was planning to sacrifice his life to kill Meruem but didn't get a similar power and only killed him because of the poison
If you don't call that random power ups then why do you say Naruto has random power ups?
I'm not saying that I didn't like the manga. I obviously enjoyed it a lot since I read all of it but the story isn't better than Naruto's. Also, while it's true that the Naruto anime is very bad right now and HxH is better, when I compare the two, I'm including part 1 Naruto. When I compare the manga only, Naruto is better.
You can't seriously think that he will use that mode ever again. It was a one time thing, if he were to use it again than he will die cuz Killua left with Alluka. To me it makes sense that an adult Gon would be stronger than an old Netero, Netero said that he was the strongest nen user 50 years ago.
I think that Netero was being modest when he said that pitou was stronger than him. But neither way the outcome of a nen battle isn't determined by aura alone. And pitou isn't as strong as the king.
Enjoyment is one thing, quality is another. I enjoy Naruto or els I wouldn't be here but HxH is clearly written better. HxH is full of surprised, who thought that Killua would fail the exam, Hisoka would be in heaven's arena, Kurapika not having a fight to death with Chrollo ect. Naruto isnt like that, even good arcs like chunin exam didn't have twists, Naruto and Sasuke pretty much won every battle. The only time Kishi surprised me in a good way is Sasuke winning against Naruto in part 1 and Itachi being a hero. I don't like how he trolls villains, Akatsuki member committing suicide, I don't get why deidera killed himself just to win from Sasuke who he never met before, Naruo tnj a villain like Nagato. And I don't like this whole notion of the mc always defeating his opponent, I like Gon more than Naruto because of that.
You don't call Sasuke hawk and Sakura chakra diamond thing a random power up
? Pain invasion was just few weeks ago in Naruto time, she couldn't use it back than but now she can lmao
And Sasuke finding hawk contract out of nowhere, even Obito was confused.
It's clear that you don't like Togashi for some reason but I do not feel the need to defend your personal insults towards him but let me say this, he is a mangaka and not a charity, he writes stories and fans of his work can buy a good drawn volumes.
Really I don't understand why your stepping in his shoes and making predictions of how he will handle future, you cant say a thing about future arcs unless you have some inside information or crystal ball lmao.
You see I've been following HXH since 1999 when the 1st anime was made, its maybe hard for you to understand but Togashi is just fooling around with this Hiatus, this series should have ended a long time a go, it could have been so much better if he dedicated more effort into his character, like wha he did with Yu Yu Hakusho, YYH is similar with HXH it also have 4 main character and everyone got their time to shine, no one was favored,
and yeah he is a Mangaka but that doesn't mean he can just give such chapter to a Magazine like WSJ, they payed him /page for that you know the only thing that allow him to keep doing that is he's a legendary mangaka who wrote YYH one of WSJ top 10 sales of all time....., lots of Mangaka also have some difficulties like illness, like Eiichiro Oda the author of one piece, recently he fell ill and get hospitalized for 2 weeks and you know what he did in the hospital ? he continue his work without decreasing his art quality,
and really it don't take a genius to figure out what Togashi's trying to do with the Dark Continent Arc, looking at the fact that Gon has completed his goal by meeting Gin and finds out why he become a hunter, there will be a lot of fighting and new move/characters in this arc considering how strong the Chimera, imagine what kind of creature that lurking in that unexplored land, just like in YYH when MC storm into the yokai world to kick some major ass...
Heavens arena - Gon got his ass handed to him by Hisoka after months of training and Hisoka wasn't even trying to kill him.
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Yorknew city - Gon got captured not ones but twice and thats all he did in the whole arc. Phinks could have broken his neck, Feitan was about the break his arm and he couldn't do jackshit about it O_O
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Greed Island - A very long training arc and at the end of the arc Gon still got his ass handed to him by Genthru, he only won thanks to Killua's plan. And we also have the dodgeball game where Killua was prised like no other and Hisoka won the match for the team. Normally that is the MC job.
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Gon and Killua are not strong enough and Kite lost an arm while he was protecting them. He couldn't save Kite, He stand no chance against the royal guards let alone the king who is the main villain of the arc. Because of frustration and pain he almost give up his life to kill Pitou, he would have died if Killua didn't get Alluka.
So when did HxH use this format? ''Bad Guy Appear > MC Training> Victory''
*sigh* why do you think i wrote "so what if he lose countless battle ?" you really failed to understand what's the meaning of Typical Shounen Series huh ?
VICTORY doesn't mean that MC need to win his battles..... what i mean by that is their Goal was accomplished and the bad guy failed that's all there is to it, and you can't really include the heavens arena arc cause it was considered as training arc for Gon and Kil
Dude Kurapika got a whole arc (50+ chapters) just for his back story and goals, the dude is one of the best developed characters of HxH. Even Lelorio got a arc where he did his thing and his goal is to become a doctor not a hunter. What is Sakura's goal? and what arc did she get? Kage summit where she foolishly tried to kill Sasuke?
I'm sorry but HxH got better developed main cast, a creative and complex power system, better villains and most important of all better story telling.
Kakashi got a spin off of his past and ever since that time Kishimoto has been giving him a spot light almost in every arc, compared to Kurapika Kakashi has better development,
and oh please i don't like Sakura but she got more character development than Leorio, what did Leorio do after the Zoldyack mansion arc ? even in the hunter exam arc he just there for the sake comedy he don't even fight to pass the exam... and now where is he ?
You see I've been following HXH since 1999 when the 1st anime was made, its maybe hard for you to understand but Togashi is just fooling around with this Hiatus, this series should have ended a long time a go, it could have been so much better if he dedicated more effort into his character, like wha he did with Yu Yu Hakusho, YYH is similar with HXH it also have 4 main character and everyone got their time to shine, no one was favored,
and yeah he is a Mangaka but that doesn't mean he can just give such chapter to a Magazine like WSJ, they payed him /page for that you know the only thing that allow him to keep doing that is he's a legendary mangaka who wrote YYH one of WSJ top 10 sales of all time....., lots of Mangaka also have some difficulties like illness, like Eiichiro Oda the author of one piece, recently he fell ill and get hospitalized for 2 weeks and you know what he did in the hospital ? he continue his work without decreasing his art quality,
and really it don't take a genius to figure out what Togashi's trying to do with the Dark Continent Arc, looking at the fact that Gon has completed his goal by meeting Gin and finds out why he become a hunter, there will be a lot of fighting and new move/characters in this arc considering how strong the Chimera, imagine what kind of creature that lurking in that unexplored land, just like in YYH when MC storm into the yokai world to kick some major ass...
So your following HxH since 1999, good for you and I understand that the wait for new chapters is frustrating, as I said earlier, I would perfer HxH to become a monthly manga. You really take the drawing WSJ gets to heart, I would almost think that you got a business interest here. But it's non of my business what goes down between WSJ and Togashi, I got no interest in WSJ, I'm satisfied as long as I can buy good drawn manga volumes. I haven't seen YYH so can't say anythin on those comments but I will tell you this, HxH still got 3/4 arcs left so it's to early to make that kind of conclusions.
Again, your just speculating how Togashi will handle future arcs to make your point and it's pathetic.
*sigh* why do you think i wrote "so what if he lose countless battle ?" you really failed to understand what's the meaning of Typical Shounen Series huh ?
VICTORY doesn't mean that MC need to win his battles..... what i mean by that is their Goal was accomplished and the bad guy failed that's all there is to it, and you can't really include the heavens arena arc cause it was considered as training arc for Gon and Kil
Dude what are you waffling about? Are you trying to tell me that VICTORY doesn't mean winning a battle in a shounen battle manga? Because that is what HxH is and it's the only manga that I know of that makes the MC lose almost every battle, Naruto usually wins, same for Luffy, Ichigo, Goku, Natsuu and Yusuke (I have only seen 23 episodes of YYH).
Your whole ''they accomplished their goals'' argument is not even valid and I will not even use Heavens Arena arc as proof ( even thou your reason for not including this arc makes no sense)
- Kurapika goals in Yorknew city arc was to crush the Spiders but he failed miserably, he got more than 2000 mafia members killed and the Spiders are still active and functioning.
- Gon wanted to go back to NGL and save Kite but he failed to defeat Knuckle and couldn't go to NGL and saving Kite was mission impossible from the start.
And it's quite foolish to say that HxH is a typical shounen manga because the MC got goals, every story ever made have a MC with goals, are they all the same because of that? It's clear that your looking for excuses for your false claims but you need to try harder man...your making it way to easy for me
But than again, your in a tough position. HxH is clearly better than Naruto even you admitted that in your first post
Kakashi got a spin off of his past and ever since that time Kishimoto has been giving him a spot light almost in every arc, compared to Kurapika Kakashi has better development,
and oh please i don't like Sakura but she got more character development than Leorio, what did Leorio do after the Zoldyack mansion arc ? even in the hunter exam arc he just there for the sake comedy he don't even fight to pass the exam... and now where is he ?
Kakashi didn't get more development/panel time that Kurapika got but I think that they are close. The big difference is that Kurapika got that much delevopment in just 340 chapters and Naruto got 642 chapters out now. And I'm sure that Kurapika got more development in those 340 chapters than Kakashi got in the first 340 chapters of Naruto. But if you doubt me , we can compare the chapters...lets see if you can put money where your mouth is.
Lmao of at Sakura getting more character development than Lelorio, she cries and screamed for help more than Lelorio...I give you that much. Lelorio almost became
chairman hunter association
and he got a decent development during the exam. But I agree that Lelorio is the least developed character of the HxH main cast.
So your following HxH since 1999, good for you and I understand that the wait for new chapters is frustrating, as I said earlier, I would perfer HxH to become a monthly manga. You really take the drawing WSJ gets to heart, I would almost think that you got a business interest here. But it's non of my business what goes down between WSJ and Togashi, I got no interest in WSJ, I'm satisfied as long as I can buy good drawn manga volumes. I haven't seen YYH so can't say anythin on those comments but I will tell you this, HxH still got 3/4 arcs left so it's to early to make that kind of conclusions.
Again, your just speculating how Togashi will handle future arcs to make your point and it's pathetic.
Listen now, Tankobon release only occurred for 1 or 2 month unlike the weekly chapters let alone the fact that the chapters need to be redrawn HXH volume release will take longer than how it supposed to be, that's why people complain about the art in each chapter.....
that 3/4 arc is just you speculation, and my speculation about how Togashi will handled the future arc is understandable due to my experience with tons of similar manga, that's why i take YYH into account but since you never read YYH then you have nothing let alone claiming it pathetic to begin with idk why are you aggressive LOL
Dude what are you waffling about? Are you trying to tell me that VICTORY doesn't mean winning a battle in a shounen battle manga? Because that is what HxH is and it's the only manga that I know of that makes the MC lose almost every battle, Naruto usually wins, same for Luffy, Ichigo, Goku, Natsuu and Yusuke (I have only seen 23 episodes of YYH).
Your whole ''they accomplished their goals'' argument is not even valid and I will not even use Heavens Arena arc as proof ( even thou your reason for not including this arc makes no sense)
HXH is shounen battle manga ok ? and yes victory doesn't mean the MC need to win battles, because he don't have to win to acquired his goal to begin with, the main point is the arc ended with the MC team advantage that's what you called victory, i haven't seen an arc when the MC completely devastated and failed to achieve his goal like in One Piece where luffy failed to save his crew and his brother was killed when he tried to saved him, now that's what you called non typical shounen manga because everything goes against the MC will
and yup the heavens arena arc is just traning arc what else ? that's where Gon and Kil learn how to use nen the match with Hisoka is just a cameo fight to see how much Gon have grown, you don't actually think that Gon can beat him are you ?
- Kurapika goals in Yorknew city arc was to crush the Spiders but he failed miserably, he got more than 2000 mafia members killed and the Spiders are still active and functioning.
you don't actually think that Kurapica can wipe out the entire spider aren't you ? if yes then you're beyond help LOL,
its clear that from the beginning Kurapica will have to wait to achieve his goal, that arc only served as in introduction for the spider for them to demonstrated their ability, but nonetheless kurapica make some progression by killing 2 spiders and manage to stop the spider temporarily, if you;re smart enough you should know that arc ended with Kurapica advantage, because he's not strong enough to beat them and now he will gain more time to train and strengthened his ability.....
- Gon wanted to go back to NGL and save Kite but he failed to defeat Knuckle and couldn't go to NGL and saving Kite was mission impossible from the start.
And it's quite foolish to say that HxH is a typical shounen manga because the MC got goals, every story ever made have a MC with goals, are they all the same because of that? It's clear that your looking for excuses for your false claims but you need to try harder man...your making it way to easy for me
But than again, your in a tough position. HxH is clearly better than Naruto even you admitted that in your first post
not foolish i have my reason lots of it, and you keep repeating Gon loses battle jajajajajaja huh ?
its typical because it follows the same pattern like everyone else,
well of course HXH is better than Naruto but then again why is that matter ? am not trying tell you which one is the best am just saying that both manga has it up and down and they;re not miles away to each other, you're making HXH looks like a perpect manga ( well that belong to One Piece heck even One Piece is not perfect ) with no flaw at all frankly that stupid...
Kakashi didn't get more development/panel time that Kurapika got but I think that they are close. The big difference is that Kurapika got that much delevopment in just 340 chapters and Naruto got 642 chapters out now. And I'm sure that Kurapika got more development in those 340 chapters than Kakashi got in the first 340 chapters of Naruto. But if you doubt me , we can compare the chapters...lets see if you can put money where your mouth is.
nah Kakashi certainly got involved more in his manga than Kurapika, just count yourself how many times kakashi was involved in important battles, you can't just say kurapika got more because HXH have less chapter than Naruto when in Naruto the story revolves only for the 2 main character, its impressive enough that he made this far,
Lmao of at Sakura getting more character development than Lelorio, she cries and screamed for help more than Lelorio...I give you that much. Lelorio almost became
chairman hunter association
and he got a decent development during the exam. But I agree that Lelorio is the least developed character of the HxH main cast.
this is a serious problem, did you really hate Naruto that much ? or its just sakura ?
even an infant should know that Sakura got development than Leorio, and why would take that him becoming chairman hunter association in account ? it only serve as comedy service for the manga, you don't actually think he's gonna win are you ?
while Sakura has been upgrade more than Leorio in every way, Fighting styles,Technique etc
Twisted those walls of text! You are very astute when you do something. Well imho HxH is atm far superior it's magnificent at keeping you interested and your eyes peeled. Also...Twisted is probably the smartest person on NB imho. When she knows something understand that she indeed knows!:yayy:
Listen now, Tankobon release only occurred for 1 or 2 month unlike the weekly chapters let alone the fact that the chapters need to be redrawn HXH volume release will take longer than how it supposed to be, that's why people complain about the art in each chapter.....
that 3/4 arc is just you speculation, and my speculation about how Togashi will handled the future arc is understandable due to my experience with tons of similar manga, that's why i take YYH into account but since you never read YYH then you have nothing let alone claiming it pathetic to begin with idk why are you aggressive LOL
Did I sounded aggressive? my bad I should have used a smiley.
Again, I understand that the fans have frustration because of all the waiting. Don't understand why you keep bringin this up. About the 3/4 arcs, I found a part of the supposed
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on HxH wikia if you can the same thing for your claim than we can call it even. Until than
HXH is shounen battle manga ok ? and yes victory doesn't mean the MC need to win battles, because he don't have to win to acquired his goal to begin with, the main point is the arc ended with the MC team advantage that's what you called victory, i haven't seen an arc when the MC completely devastated and failed to achieve his goal like in One Piece where luffy failed to save his crew and his brother was killed when he tried to saved him, now that's what you called non typical shounen manga because everything goes against the MC will
and yup the heavens arena arc is just traning arc what else ? that's where Gon and Kil learn how to use nen the match with Hisoka is just a cameo fight to see how much Gon have grown, you don't actually think that Gon can beat him are you ?
you don't actually think that Kurapica can wipe out the entire spider aren't you ? if yes then you're beyond help LOL,
its clear that from the beginning Kurapica will have to wait to achieve his goal, that arc only served as in introduction for the spider for them to demonstrated their ability, but nonetheless kurapica make some progression by killing 2 spiders and manage to stop the spider temporarily, if you;re smart enough you should know that arc ended with Kurapica advantage, because he's not strong enough to beat them and now he will gain more time to train and strengthened his ability.....
Your not getting it, I'm aware that a MC doesn't need to win his battles to achieve his goals, HxH is prime example of that. But most MC of battle shounen manga win majority of their battles, Naruto won every fight he had in part 1 untill he faced Sasuke. Ichigo defeated a experienced captain after 3 days of swinging a sword. I'm at episode 320 of one piece and Luffy is winning most of his battles of not all (can't remember everything so don't quote me on this one) I can list more but you get the drill.
I expected Ace to die but I haven't heard anything about crew members dying, but if that happend than kudos to one piece for not taking the typical shounen route.
Heavens arena was a training arc and I didn't want Gon to win against Hisoka after 5 months of training but hey I wasn't expecting Ichigo to defeat Kenpachi after few days of training.
I didn't expect Kurapika to kill off all the spiders but I did atleast expected him to have a battle to the death with Chrollo and Chrollo dying at the hands of Kurapika. Thats why im so glad that the arc didn't end like that. But you say that Yorknew city arc ended with an advantage for Kurapika? I wonder if your trolling me when I read stuff like that :erm:
Kurapika loses
more than half of his colleagues got killed because of him
the girl he was hired to protect lost her power
2000 mafia men died because of his beef with the spiders
Spiders got full intel on him and his power
He didn't get even one pair of his clan eyes
Spider is still active infact Feitan and Phinks stole another auction item 2 days after he was forced to release Chrollo lmao
Kurapika gains
Prominent place in his maffia family (money and info wise)
Could test chain jail on Uvo
Got rid one 1 spider (I know he killed 2 but the spiders gained Kalluto)
No Kite was killed and his body is used to make meatballs, meatballs the queen ate. Later a chimera ant girl was born who has some of Kites memories. But the pro hunter Kite is gone for good.
not foolish i have my reason lots of it, and you keep repeating Gon loses battle jajajajajaja huh ?
its typical because it follows the same pattern like everyone else,
well of course HXH is better than Naruto but then again why is that matter ? am not trying tell you which one is the best am just saying that both manga has it up and down and they;re not miles away to each other, you're making HXH looks like a perpect manga ( well that belong to One Piece heck even One Piece is not perfect ) with no flaw at all frankly that stupid...
You sounds irritated as hell, is this becoming to much for you?
Yeaah and you keep saying that HxH uses the same pattern as Naruto and thats not true. Yes Naruto usually wins but thats not the only thing. Villains get trolled badly, Akatsuki members are prime examples. Naruto's plotholes ect.
I'm not saying that HxH is perfect or best manga ever made but I can savely say that it's better than Naruto by leaps and bounds.
nah Kakashi certainly got involved more in his manga than Kurapika, just count yourself how many times kakashi was involved in important battles, you can't just say kurapika got more because HXH have less chapter than Naruto when in Naruto the story revolves only for the 2 main character, its impressive enough that he made this far.
Yeah Kakashi got more battles than Kurapika but when I talk about better developed characters I'm not just talking about fighting abillities, no i'm talking about story involvement. And you said it your self Kakashi doesn't have a goal on his own while Kurapika does.
This is a serious problem, did you really hate Naruto that much ? or its just sakura ?
even an infant should know that Sakura got development than Leorio, and why would take that him becoming chairman hunter association in account ? it only serve as comedy service for the manga, you don't actually think he's gonna win are you ?
while Sakura has been upgrade more than Leorio in every way, Fighting styles,Technique etc
Lmao at serious problem, don't stress I don't hate Naruto and I don't even hate Sakura, I strongly dislike how Kishi portraits all female characters xd . But seriously, how is she developed better than Lelorio (plotwise not fighting abillity) Al she does is think about Sasuke-kun. Atleast Lelorio got a goal and has dreams that doesn't involve romantic pairing.
Twisted those walls of text! You are very astute when you do something. Well imho HxH is atm far superior it's magnificent at keeping you interested and your eyes peeled. Also...Twisted is probably the smartest person on NB imho. When she knows something understand that she indeed knows!:yayy:
Sorry Madara :O you know how I get when it comes to HxH XD Seriously thou, I kept the fangirl inside of me at bay but clearly HxH is written better :yayy:
I think that Netero was being modest when he said that pitou was stronger than him. But neither way the outcome of a nen battle isn't determined by aura alone. And pitou isn't as strong as the king.
He wasn't being modest, it was confirmed by colt too that even the royal guards are stronger than him. Also, the outcome of their battle was determined by an external weapon.
Enjoyment is one thing, quality is another. I enjoy Naruto or els I wouldn't be here but HxH is clearly written better. HxH is full of surprised, who thought that Killua would fail the exam, Hisoka would be in heaven's arena, Kurapika not having a fight to death with Chrollo ect. Naruto isnt like that, even good arcs like chunin exam didn't have twists, Naruto and Sasuke pretty much won every battle. The only time Kishi surprised me in a good way is Sasuke winning against Naruto in part 1 and Itachi being a hero. I don't like how he trolls villains, Akatsuki member committing suicide, I don't get why deidera killed himself just to win from Sasuke who he never met before, Naruo tnj a villain like Nagato. And I don't like this whole notion of the mc always defeating his opponent, I like Gon more than Naruto because of that.
I never thought that the Phantom Troupe would lose at the time and I don't see the big deal with Hisoka being in the heaven's arena.
They didn't win every battle. Sasuke lost to Oro and Gaara in part 1 and to Itachi in part 2. Naruto lost to Orochimaru (part 1), to Kimimaro, and to Itachi (both parts), and would've lost to Deidara if it weren't for Kakashi. Naruto practically did nothing in the Kazekage rescue arc.
Naruto had it's twists too like Gaara and Rin being a Jinchuuriki, Kabuto's past and him being the one meeting Kakashi's team at the bridge, Nagato being Jiraiya's student, and the main villian being Obito. Also, Nagato wasn't a villian IMO.
You don't call Sasuke hawk and Sakura chakra diamond thing a random power up
? Pain invasion was just few weeks ago in Naruto time, she couldn't use it back than but now she can lmao
And Sasuke finding hawk contract out of nowhere, even Obito was confused.
Sasuke's relation to hawks was foreshadowed many times and Obito doesn't know everthing about Sasuke so he may have made a contract before facing Danzo. Itachi's summonings were birds (crows) so he may have got the contract somewhere similar. Sakura was foreshadowed to have the seal since part 1 from the comments on her large forehead and her chakra control aptitude, and most importantly, her teacher.
In the end, it's your opinion that HxH is written better. I don't think the same because of a few things like the MC's goal. Now that he's accomplished it, I don't see what he's going to do.
You are very astute when you do something. Well imho HxH is atm far superior it's magnificent at keeping you interested and your eyes peeled. Also...Twisted is probably the smartest person on NB imho. When she knows something understand that she indeed knows!:yayy:
