madara>hashirama (no trolling)

[KingHashirama]

Prime of a person refers to the power a person possess in his/her own body..... not using the power of a summon......

 

[Fireplay]

Current Madara>Hashirama is a given. Last time Hashi barely won. Now Madara has rinnegan, wood release etc.

 

[KingHashirama]

1-madara was making an excuse.

2-to take care of his brother something that a good brother does.

3-hashirama who countless senjus helping him while madara was alone.

4-something that he wanted to happen to gain the DNA.

1. Your claim, manga says otherwise

2. he still ran away, and didn't say anything back to Hashirama

3. He only challenged Hashirama, Hashirama does not allow anyone to interfere

4. Obito claimed that , Madara did not. So you decide, if your a Obito fan or a Madara fan.

 

[RikudouMadara]

All this pointless arguing. They're going to fight in a few chapters.

Hahahaha so true...I agree we tend to get out of hand guys. Unless...one of us here is.....Kishi?!! Kishi...are you among us?! Show yourself! :yayy:

 

[Cooh]

lol? Now you're saying EMS Madara=Hashirama? Being able to fight on equal grounds with someone doesn't mean you are equal with them in power. Madara is weaker but not by a far enough margin that Hashirama will completely dominate him in battle.

I really hope you aren't referring to Kabuto's statement of Madara being beyond his prime, cause he actually said that you've been completed beyond your prime. Since when did that mean he was stronger? Never.

A weakened Nagato didn't subdue the Kyuubi. He formed his complete Chibaku Tensei and an 8-Tailed Naruto broke free of it.

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Then he started coughing of blood and CT fell apart.

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Not to mention that this is a rampaging 50% Eight Tailed Kyuubi. Not a 100%, full power Kyuubi being controlled by someone instead of it going wild.

When he shows something that lets him beat the Buddha then he can defeat Hashirama.



Those aren't Mountains in the scan you posted, not to mention the Meteor is high up in the air while the rock structures are on the ground, the farther away things are the smaller they seem. Blind much?

Madara said PS is his full power. Its his strongest tech. Meteor is one of his techs so PS stronger than Meteor. He destroyed distant Mountains cause it was strong enough to do so, Meteor wasn't. Its really as simple as that.

The view in the picture is from the ground not the sky, blind much? /facepalm

Some more pictures for you.

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[Cooh]

It's the way it was said, that's him going full out, using his best techniques (when he pulled out Perfect Susano'o)...

Again, full power doesn't mean displaying one technique

 

[KingHashirama]

Again, full power doesn't mean displaying one technique

tell that to Madara. *_*

 

[Waltz]

lol? Now you're saying EMS Madara=Hashirama? Being able to fight on equal grounds with someone doesn't mean you are equal with them in power. Madara is weaker but not by a far enough margin that Hashirama will completely dominate him in battle.

I really hope you aren't referring to Kabuto's statement of Madara being beyond his prime, cause he actually said that you've been completed beyond your prime. Since when did that mean he was stronger? Never.

A weakened Nagato didn't subdue the Kyuubi. He formed his complete Chibaku Tensei and an 8-Tailed Naruto broke free of it.

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Then he started coughing of blood and CT fell apart.

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Not to mention that this is a rampaging 50% Eight Tailed Kyuubi. Not a 100%, full power Kyuubi being controlled by someone instead of it going wild.

When he shows something that lets him beat the Buddha then he can defeat Hashirama.

I said via canon Hashirama is technically Madara's equivalent while in his prime based on the scan provided. Completed in the aspects of power [

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] as Madara in his prime did not possess an undying body, unlimited chakra, the Rin'engan nor functioning Mokuton. It's easily recognized as kabuto states he can now taste a fragment of the Rikudo's with the power he's created being Edo Madara, who is undoubtedly stronger than while alive in his prime state. Chibaku tensei could have been expanded to contain the Kyuubi [

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] which really isn't a surprise as it can reach scales as the moon. A weakened, chakra depelted Nagato as I noted, just simply couldn't support something like that at that point.

@ Bold: You're still appealing to ignorance...?​

Obito could summon it as well but that's not his summon either he just had control on it.

Summoning and controlling are different things. Madara can summon the Kyuubi at will and if it wasn't being hosted by Naruto, Madara would have had it in his possession all this time. No different from the fact that Edo Madara could also summon the Gedo Mazou at will via the Rin'negan but currently can't due to proposing delimmas. ​

 

[Erza Scarlet]

Again, full power doesn't mean displaying one technique

It's his strongest technique though, he even said it's time to show the full power of Madara Uchiha then pulls out PS, he didn't say that then pull at the Meteor did he? Please, stop being in denial.

 

[Draphsin]

I usually agree with you but you're wrong this time, Hashirama was the only one to show that he can break out while being controlled, Madara has yet to and has only shown it when it was being released. There's no proof otherwise while there is proof that he only tried when it was being released.

Edit: Edo Tensei is a lot weaker and easier to break free from when it's being released

Madara was given free reign over his own body, please explain to me why forming the handsigns for edo tensei wouldnt do anything.

Itachi broke free via KA, he did so because he startled kabuto who had no idea that breaking free was even possible, if madara quickly formed the handsigns for edo tensei the same would apply, so I ask again what's stopping it from working?

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara was given free reign over his own body, please explain to me why forming the handsigns for edo tensei wouldnt do anything.

Itachi broke free via KA, he did so because he startled kabuto who had no idea that breaking free was even possible, if madara quickly formed the handsigns for edo tensei the same would apply, so I ask again what's stopping it from working?

So you just compared...... someone who can be controlled by a bind stronger then Kabuto's...... to someone who need to actually release the justsu to get out of Edo tensei.... How is that the same?

Where is the indication that Madara can't be controlled?

 

[Cooh]

It's his strongest technique though, he even said it's time to show the full power of Madara Uchiha then pulls out PS, he didn't say that then pull at the Meteor did he? Please, stop being in denial.

It said he's using the power of a god when he summoned the meteor =D
But anyway I'm repeating myself, pls read my previous posts and stop being in denial, Edo Madara > Hashi

 

[The Gifted One]

Hashirama is not a simple opponent,he once mastered almost all the techniques in his time. In his fight with madara,he only displayed his wood technique,nothing more. Which he has a lot more jutsus that we don't know of yet

 

[Erza Scarlet]

Madara was given free reign over his own body, please explain to me why forming the handsigns for edo tensei wouldnt do anything.

Itachi broke free via KA, he did so because he startled kabuto who had no idea that breaking free was even possible, if madara quickly formed the handsigns for edo tensei the same would apply, so I ask again what's stopping it from working?

He still had some control over Madara, that's why, if he saw him even start to perform the Edo Tensei hand signs he wouldn't just stand there and allow him to do them. He would block him from doing it, Itachi is a different example, he had full control but the crow came from Naruto and use a technique to cancel out the control from Edo Tensei. Madara didn't do it before it was being released and Hashirama did, at around 80% power as well.

It said he's using the power of a god when he summoned the meteor =D
But anyway I'm repeating myself, pls read my previous posts and stop being in denial, Edo Madara > Hashi

No you're in denial that PS is Madara's strongest technique.

Hashirama >> Edo Madara, sorry but you can't give any good enough reason as t why Madara wins.

Edit: yes Nagato also thought he was a God and it's true they're using a power created by a God but that doesn't mean they're as strong as that God. By your logic as Nagato said he was a God and using a Gods powers then that means he also beats Hashirama? No.

 

[Cooh]

No you're in denial that PS is Madara's strongest technique.

Hashirama >> Edo Madara, sorry but you can't give any good enough reason as t why Madara wins.

No, PS is his more versatile techinque it offers him strong offense plus defense. The Meteor is just pure destruction.

I put enough evidence in this thread and plenty of others did as well, you and KidGamer are the only ones deluded

 

[Bronze]

1. Your claim, manga says otherwise

2. he still ran away, and didn't say anything back to Hashirama

3. He only challenged Hashirama, Hashirama does not allow anyone to interfere

4. Obito claimed that , Madara did not. So you decide, if your a Obito fan or a Madara fan.

1-madara hated fighting when he was a child. so when his dad came he made an excuse to persuade his dad that hashirama was stronger. but in reality hashirama was never stronger.

2-good brother saves his brother.

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why am i seeing countless senjus? oh yeah cuz madara was fighting them alone.

4-obito who got that knowledge from madara.

 

[Draphsin]

So you just compared...... someone who can be controlled by a bind stronger then Kabuto's...... to someone who need to actually release the justsu to get out of Edo tensei.... How is that the same?

Where is the indication that Madara can't be controlled?

No...You missed the whole point, I said that madara could break free at any time, their methods are obviously different but they still broke free. Itachi is still under kabuto's edo though because he didnt overwrite the contract, just the command.

Its the same because it proves that the possibility of breaking free while being controlled is possible, Itachi used a jutsu to break free yes, madara did too, but fact is that they could have done so during any point in time throughout their fights.

 

[Murasame]

He still had some control over Madara, that's why, if he saw him even start to perform the Edo Tensei hand signs he wouldn't just stand there and allow him to do them. He would block him from doing it, Itachi is a different example, he had full control but the crow came from Naruto and use a technique to cancel out the control from Edo Tensei. Madara didn't do it before it was being released and Hashirama did, at around 80% power as well.

I'm pretty sure Itachi was still on auto pilot at that point unless you show me otherwise... Madara was in control of himself if I remember correctly so I don't see why he can't break out whenever he wanted too. The only reason he decided to break out w is because the jutsu was being undone.. I'm pretty sure it's obvious he was going to do that at that point he had no reason before hand to do so.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

edo madara is a freak and of course he is stronger than hashirama BUT he is not the real/original madara.
don't know why you are comparing an ENHANCED edo to a character that has it's own power, it's like saying "give hashirama a sharingan and tell me who can beat him". not fair you know ....... :erm:

edo madara is an ACCIDENT, and i love madara btw but you can't simply compare characters like that.

original madara vs original hashirama = you don't need me to tell you this ........ happened before and will happen again.

kishi portrays hashi as the strongest of the two, madara admits that hashi is better than him and hashirama keeps on stepping in to keep madara in check every time he goes crazy. nuff said

 

[Erza Scarlet]

No, PS is his more versatile techinque it offers him strong offense plus defense. The Meteor is just pure destruction.

I put enough evidence in this thread and plenty of others did as well, you and KidGamer are the only ones deluded

Not at all, we're the only ones who are actually making sense. You haven't put anything that counters us and the only people I see on this thread are Madara fanboy's, with their Madara avatars, signatures, fanboy clubs that state to always say Madara is better and so on.