Team Kakashi vrs Team Minato

[ShinraTensei17]

Team of Yondaime easily.

 

[Brooks]

Ok that might have been out of place but in the Land of Iron I think Sasuke gave it his all and this made him vunerable. Come on you can't simply still side with Sasuke after that happened. Raw power doesn't wim battle resourcefulness does

Yes, i know raw just doesn't win...if that was the case then Bee or Naruto would have beaten Obito.....Sasuke is a genius and also has form of intelligence in his own right....yes, Sasuke did gave all, but you have to remember that Sasuke was tired and almost was out of Chakra and just finished a battle against a Hokage(Danzo) when Kakashi came to fight him in the Land of Iron.....whereas Kakashi was a 100% healthy at that time.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

The Databook is outdated? where does it say that?

Yet, Sasuke dodged A in his V1 and also dodged Bee in his V1 in the air....does that mean he's superior in Speed? no

Sasuke broke through Itachi's Tsukuyomi .....so, by your logic Sasuke is the superior one in Genjutsu.

Not only that...Sasuke put Genjutsu in Cee with ease who's well know for his Genjutsu skills.....still got to say something?

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Kakashi can't even get Kamui with Sasuke....Sasuke summons a Hawk and Aoda....how does Kakashi deal with this? he can't wrap Aoda and if he takes his eyes off Aoda....he's going to die....Kakashi can't do anything against Aoda and Sasuke's summoning.

Do you mean the same Kakashi who had the Kyuubi Chakra for that 2 whole days? or maybe you forget the fact the CM takes Chakra away from Sasuke to use or the fact Sasuke put some of his Chakra to stop Orochimaru from getting out in his fight against Sasuke?

Who called you a fanboy? i don't know why you're getting all worked-up.

You're still the one who's posting the shitty posts.

Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi because he has Itachi's blood. Given that to Kakashi, the result would have been the same.

The genjutsu he used on Cee is a non factor, since Kakashi has the MS and will see right through it.

How will summons help him against Kamui? Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second, summoning takes a couple seconds. Sasuke will get warped.

The Databook is outdated? where does it say that?

Yet, Sasuke dodged A in his V1 and also dodged Bee in his V1 in the air....does that mean he's superior in Speed? no

Where does it say that? Uhm, it's made pre Kage Summit, which is what, 200 chapters ( 4 years ) ago? It's totally updated.

Ay V1 is nothing incredible. V2 is his -real- speed and Sasuke was getting pummeled by it. V2 Bee blitzed Sasuke whereas Kakashi had no trouble fighting V2 Jins even after 2 days of battle.

Do you mean the same Kakashi who had the Kyuubi Chakra for that 2 whole days?

What are you on about?

He only received Kyuubi chakra during the Obito fight.

or maybe you forget the fact the CM takes Chakra away from Sasuke to use or the fact Sasuke put some of his Chakra to stop Orochimaru from getting out in his fight against Sasuke?

Uhm no, Sasuke had to use a fraction of his chakra to control Orochimaru, but absorbing him and the CM in itself gives him a huge chakra boost. He was able to contend with Naruto at VotE, obviously his chakra is raised to monstrous levels by the CM.

You're still the one who's posting the shitty posts.

Says the fanboy.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Rin was a Jinchuriki.

Eh, true. But she has no feats.

 

[Champ]

Sasuke would own Kakashi, Naruto would own Minato. But Obito is the Juubi's jinchuuriki so team 7 loses

 

[hyuuga teddy]

Sasuke would own Kakashi, Naruto would own Minato. But Obito is the Juubi's jinchuuriki so team 7 loses

Is this a joke? Kakashi stomps Sasuke and Minato does same to Naruto.

 

[Brooks]

Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi because he has Itachi's blood. Given that to Kakashi, the result would have been the same.

The genjutsu he used on Cee is a non factor, since Kakashi has the MS and will see right through it.

How will summons help him against Kamui? Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second, summoning takes a couple seconds. Sasuke will get warped.



Where does it say that? Uhm, it's made pre Kage Summit, which is what, 200 chapters ( 4 years ) ago? It's totally updated.

Ay V1 is nothing incredible. V2 is his -real- speed and Sasuke was getting pummeled by it. V2 Bee blitzed Sasuke whereas Kakashi had no trouble fighting V2 Jins even after 2 days of battle.


What are you on about?

He only received Kyuubi chakra during the Obito fight.



Uhm no, Sasuke had to use a fraction of his chakra to control Orochimaru, but absorbing him and the CM in itself gives him a huge chakra boost. He was able to contend with Naruto at VotE, obviously his chakra is raised to monstrous levels by the CM.



Says the fanboy.

Yet, a 13 years old Sasuke had Itachi's same blood and yet he got mind raped by Itachi....the point was not only having the same bloodline, but also do to Sasuke mastering his 3 tome Sharingan over the 3 years time.

Sasuke doesn't even need to use Genjutsu on the likes of Kakashi....so, stop getting all worked-up.

"Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second"....you just shot yourself in the foot by posting this....you gave Kirin's speed to Kamui which is another reason to show how pathetic you are.....Kamui isn't warping Sasuke while he's flying fast in his Hawk.

"Kirin is an extremely powerful, one-shot, lightning technique created by Sasuke Uchiha. He draws natural lightning directly from thunder clouds to supplement the power of his strike and controls it with chakra. Unlike most techniques, which are based on the user's chakra, this one uses natural lightning, which — as noted by Zetsu — reaches the ground in 1/1000th of a second. However, the preparation time required also decreases the technique's efficiency. If there are no active thunder clouds, the user must create them by using powerful fire techniques to produce the necessary storm conditions. With techniques such as Amaterasu, even stronger storm conditions can be made." - Narutopedia

First, the Railkage doesn't have to be incredible in his V1....the same fact is Sasuke dodged his attack and that's enough speed for him....get over it...

Second, Bee was in his V1 and not in V2...so, get that fact straight up before posting...Bee only blitzed Sasuke do Sasuke turning his back on him after the Genjutsu and Sasuke thinking genjutsu would end him since he didn't know genjutsu doesn't work on perfect Jin and you also forgot about the fact Sasuke didn't heal from the wounds Itachi gave him....if Bee can speedblitze Sasuke then he would done it when they were in the air and Sasuke dodged his attack....again, get you facts straight before posting...

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You act as if Kakashi fought big enemies in the war before Obito.....Sasuke has being spamming his Susanoo,Amaterasu, and all the attacks he have since he entered the war and he doesn't even look like he's getting started....Sasuke>Kakashi in Chakra....that's a fact and you need to get over it.

"Sasuke had to use a fraction of his chakra to control Orochimaru." where did you get Sasuke used a fraction of his Chakra....Orochimaru only said it was thanks to Itachi for forcing Sasuke to extend the Chakra he used to suppress him.....so, where did you get Sasuke used a fraction of his Chakra to suppress Orochimaru?

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CM boosts Sasuke's Chakra, but it also takes Chakra to use.....every power has its price......you still haven't proven as to how Kakashi can beat Sasuke.

A fanboy? says the Minato dickrider of the year....

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Kamui isn't warping Sasuke while he's flying fast in his Hawk.

BAHAHAHAHAHA BAHAHAHAHA BAHAHAHA

You are the most dumb troll I have ever seen.

No point wasting neurons talking to you. Come talk to me when you stop being a brain dead moron, oh my god lmao hawk speed avoiding kamui best joke ever.

10/10.

I didn't read past that line, go learn how to debate.

Dear God, my sides hurt.

Thanks for the new sig. Now everytime I post people will see your idiocy.

 

[Black Wolf]

Kamui isn't warping Sasuke while he's flying fast in his Hawk.

Unless you think Sasuke's featless hawk is faster than Pain's rockets / missiles and Shinra Tensei propelled nail, Sasuke's own Susano'o arrows, and BM Naruto, then it won't be saving him from Kamui. Obito's Kamui slightly fell short of Minato's Hiraishin, which is the fastest technique in the manga. Kakashi's Kamui outsped Obito's, which puts it just barely below Hiraishin.

Hell, early Part 2 Kakashi tagged an airborne Deidara (who was riding some sort of bird) and would have killed him if he had better expertise with Kamui. Kakashi's Kamui usage has dramatically increased since then. If he was able to tag airborne targets back then (albeit he got his arm rather than his head), he can easily do it now.

You act as if Kakashi fought big enemies in the war before Obito.

He fought the seven swordsmen, Sharingan equipped V2 Jinchuriki, and had the Sharingan active for the better part of two days. Sasuke has just entered the war, so comparing the two fighter's chakra consumption is a no-go at this point. Sure, hes used a few Mangekyo techniques, but who says Kakashi can't do the same if he was fresh? Kakashi only used 5 Kamui, but that's after extensive fighting, 8 on-panel Raikiri variants, 2 shadow clones (each of which splits his remaining chakra in half, mind you), and that's just what we saw on panel.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Stop arguing with him.

"Kamui isn't warping Sasuke while he's flying fast in his Hawk.

Quote of the ****in year.

 

[Champ]

Is this a joke? Kakashi stomps Sasuke and Minato does same to Naruto.

Explain enton arrows kills Kakashi, Minato can't do nothin to the real Naruto

 

[Brooks]

BAHAHAHAHAHA BAHAHAHAHA BAHAHAHA

You are the most dumb troll I have ever seen.

No point wasting neurons talking to you. Come talk to me when you stop being a brain dead moron, oh my god lmao hawk speed avoiding kamui best joke ever.

10/10.

I didn't read past that line, go learn how to debate.

Dear God, my sides hurt.

Thanks for the new sig. Now everytime I post people will see your idiocy.

*Says "Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second" and calls me a dumb troll*....that only moron in this place is you since you lack debating skills.

Thank for you proving your stupidity to me.

This will make a great Sig.

Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second, summoning takes a couple seconds. Sasuke will get warped.

 

[Bogard]

I'm a Kakashi fan(Champ knows it well ) but even i know he loses against current Sasuke, but not as easily as he thinks(mid-high difficulty for me). Though, Minato is a superior version of Naruto. He can basically do everything Naruto can but better, plus his other broken abilties like FTG, space time barrier, fuinjutsu that makes him much more versatile. There is no way he would lose

 

[pateuvasiliu]

*Says "Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second" and calls me a dumb troll*....that only moron in this place is you since you lack debating skills.

Thank for you proving your stupidity to me.

This will make a great Sig.

Difference between your quote and mine is yours is stupid whereas mine is true.

'm a Kakashi fan(Champ knows it well ) but even i know he loses against current Sasuke, but not as easily as he thinks(mid-high difficulty for me).

What's Sasuke's counter to kamui again?

 

[FemmeFatale]

Team Kakshi wins, with Naruto new Friendship Rasengen

 

[Champ]

I'm a Kakashi fan(Champ knows it well ) but even i know he loses against current Sasuke, but not as easily as he thinks(mid-high difficulty for me). Though, Minato is a superior version of Naruto. He can basically do everything Naruto can but better, plus his other broken abilties like FTG, space time barrier, fuinjutsu that makes him much more versatile. There is no way he would lose

Aww Boggie, the large Enton arrow that match Naruto chou odama RS made it low diff. Are you sayin Minato has chakra mode in this fight, op never said edo minato.

 

[Brooks]

Difference between your quote and mine is yours is stupid whereas mine is true.



What's Sasuke's counter to kamui again?

You're still proofing your stupidity...if what you said is true and what i said is dumb then please show me a scan where it says Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second?

I said Kamui can't wrap Sasuke in Hawk do to Kakashi fighting Sasuke's summoning(Aoda) and Hawk flying all over the place....Kamui is very fast, but Kakashi can't wrap the Hawk if he can't get a clear target on the Hawk....now, stop being a dumbass....

 

[EZQ]

This is my view on sasuke vs kakashi

MS Sasuke looses since his susanoo reaches v2 and takes long to reach v3, while kakashi can warp a v2 susanoo if he gathers chakra. Kakashi med-high diff

EMS Sasuke wins since he starts with v3 from the beggining and starts spamming enton arrows, not letting kakashi to gather enough chakra to warp a v3 sized susanoo. Sasuke wins med- high diff

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You're still proofing your stupidity...if what you said is true and what i said is dumb then please show me a scan where it says Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second?

I said Kamui can't wrap Sasuke in Hawk do to Kakashi fighting Sasuke's summoning(Aoda) and Hawk flying all over the place....Kamui is very fast, but Kakashi can't wrap the Hawk if he can't get a clear target on the Hawk....now, stop being a dumbass....

Kamui warps Sasuke long before he can think of summoning a hawk.

This is my view on sasuke vs kakashi

MS Sasuke looses since his susanoo reaches v2 and takes long to reach v3, while kakashi can warp a v2 susanoo if he gathers chakra. Kakashi med-high diff

EMS Sasuke wins since he starts with v3 from the beggining and starts spamming enton arrows, not letting kakashi to gather enough chakra to warp a v3 sized susanoo. Sasuke wins med- high diff

Why would he have to warp Susanoo?

He can simply spawn the Kamui warp point -inside- it.

You're still proofing your stupidity...

Proving*

where it says Kamui takes a 1/1000 of a second?

Feats. It warped Sasuke's Susanoo arrow shortly before it struck ( and that takes way less than half a second ) since Kakashi first decided that he can't dodge it.

Read a book, will you?

 

[Bogard]

Aww Boggie, the large Enton arrow that match Naruto chou odama RS made it low diff. Are you sayin Minato has chakra mode in this fight, op never said edo minato.

No i was talking about base Minato here

- Naruto can use clones. So can Minato
- Naruto can use frog summons. So can Minato
- Naruto can use rasengan. So can Minato, and his normal rasengan is even greater and more powerful than Naruto's normal one(comparable to his Odama rasengan i'd say)
- It's in SM/KCM/BM that Naruto gains sensing abilities. Minato has it in base
- It's in KCM/BM that Naruto gains comparable speed to base Minato

And besides that, like i've stated, Minato still has Hiraishin, Fuinjutsus, S/T barriers, ninjutsu barrier and so on

The only thing Naruto has over his dad is FRS or Bijuudamas(upgraded versions of Rasengan), but all of them are useless against Minato's Hiraishin or S/T barrier(could even be killed by his own attacks in this case)

With KCM, i rate him on another level